Anonymous wrote:Sadly, I just don't think large universities/colleges can open safely. SLACs, however, have a chance. My DD is at one that has been open for nearly three weeks with very few cases. She said one of the biggest deternents is kids who have had it sharing their experiences in class. Much stronger message coming from her peers. She's terrified of getting it and adhering to all rules.

That is not healthy. It doesn’t just spread because of parties; it spreads through in-person classes, lunch, and outdoor activities. Everyone just pretends the spread can be contained through strong moral character!

Wisconsin going all on-line for 2 weeks and two freshman dorms quarantined.

Sadly, I just don't think large universities/colleges can open safely. SLACs, however, have a chance. My DD is at one that has been open for nearly three weeks with very few cases. She said one of the biggest deternents is kids who have had it sharing their experiences in class. Much stronger message coming from her peers. She's terrified of getting it and adhering to all rules.

https://wkow.com/2020/09/09/dane-county-asks-uw-madison-to-send-undergrads-who-live-in-dorms-home/

Dane County public health officials asking UW-Madison to send dorm kids home.

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Anonymous wrote:California University of Pennsylvania senior DT Jamain Stephens Jr. died from complications of COVID-19, the school said. The 6-3, 355-pound Stephens was 20. His father, also named Jamain, was a 1st-round draft pick of the Steelers in 1996 & played 5 seasons in the NFL.

A death of a college student, a varsity athlete, no less.

Obese and black. Both high risk categories. Perhaps an underlying condition we also don’t know about? Not that he doesn’t matter but I’m not surprised. He fits the profile.

skin color classifies high risk for a virus? that is an interesting theory, I look forward to your eugenics paper.

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Anonymous wrote:Just remember, the people who died as a result of that wedding in Maine weren’t the ones who actually went to the wedding. It just spread to them.

Exactly right. I work in the county in Maine most hard hit by Covid right now as a direct result of the Millinocket wedding and we are more than 200 miles away from where the gathering took placce

NP. somewhat off topic for this thread but I wish the story of this wedding were much better known nationally. People might realize that their "feeeeeelings" about they must go ahead with their milestone events do not matter right now, and owners of hotels, restaurants and other venues might wake up and stop looking the other way and allowing groups that violate state rules. I hope somehow the venue can be prosecuted to be an example to others. The ignorance of the couple and guests is staggering. I don't know how they live with the idea that they clearly brought the virus into an area that had been clear of it -- and it can be directly traced to THEM. Infuriating. PP above, do you know if the place that held the wedding has been shut down or fined or anything? Or if the couple is being held liable somehow?

PP - I don't know. The name of the inn that hosted is well known and has been all over the news, I don't believe the wedding couple have been identified in the media. The person who has gotten the most individual press is a pastor whose church ended up being a local super-spreader in southern Maine. I think someone in the church attending the wedding and brought it back. But indoor services with full choir are continuing and pastor is unapologetic, has hired a lawyer who is arguing for religious liberty, that kind of garbage. It is truly infuriating. We did so well in Maine all summer long even with all the visitors coming, and now one stupid local event and we've lost so much ground.

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Anonymous wrote:Just remember, the people who died as a result of that wedding in Maine weren’t the ones who actually went to the wedding. It just spread to them.

Exactly right. I work in the county in Maine most hard hit by Covid right now as a direct result of the Millinocket wedding and we are more than 200 miles away from where the gathering took placce

NP. somewhat off topic for this thread but I wish the story of this wedding were much better known nationally. People might realize that their "feeeeeelings" about they must go ahead with their milestone events do not matter right now, and owners of hotels, restaurants and other venues might wake up and stop looking the other way and allowing groups that violate state rules. I hope somehow the venue can be prosecuted to be an example to others. The ignorance of the couple and guests is staggering. I don't know how they live with the idea that they clearly brought the virus into an area that had been clear of it -- and it can be directly traced to THEM. Infuriating. PP above, do you know if the place that held the wedding has been shut down or fined or anything? Or if the couple is being held liable somehow?

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Anonymous wrote:California University of Pennsylvania senior DT Jamain Stephens Jr. died from complications of COVID-19, the school said. The 6-3, 355-pound Stephens was 20. His father, also named Jamain, was a 1st-round draft pick of the Steelers in 1996 & played 5 seasons in the NFL.

A death of a college student, a varsity athlete, no less.

Obese and black. Both high risk categories. Perhaps an underlying condition we also don’t know about? Not that he doesn’t matter but I’m not surprised. He fits the profile.

I am so glad you are not a police officer who does traffic stops

What happens when it is a white slender person? I am sure you will come up with some profile for them too.

+1

Common all over DCUM -- People who take every single death and insist "there was an underlying condition we don't know about/they didn't reveal!" These PPs don't want to understand the horribly random nature of this virus. They must, must, must have neat little formulas so they feel they have the power to predict why someone gets sick or dies. It gives them a sense of control in over a senseless virus, but they believe they have special knowledge. Yes, risk categories are real, but there also are many cases where healthy people get very ill, and are having continuing problems that may never end (too soon to know) or they die. The randomness of that is something these PPs cannot endure because it violates their tidy formulas that make them feel both safe and superior.

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Anonymous wrote:A classic example of how schools are not reporting accurate information. UVA just brought students on campus but students have been in town living in off campus housing for several weeks.

A friends child was ill, went to get tested at the school's health center-negative test. Still felt ill a few days later, went to an off campus testing site, positive. UVA didn't report his positive test because they didn't conduct the test.

Should the surrounding areas work with the schools to get accurate numbers?

This is what off VT students have been doing for almost a month now. They get tested at CVS so they don’t have to tell the college and lose their access to campus.

+1 and they get tested at the Velocity urgent care, but no one can force an adult to disclose their results

DP. These things are why the virus not only will spread like wildfire on campuses and among off-campus students, but in communities as well. College students (wrongly) think they have no incentive to test, report the results, and quarantine. No matter how much they're told that if they don't do so, they are going to cause their own colleges to shut down again -- they feel THEY personally don't want to be the reason for a shutdown. Yet in the end, they'll be entirely the reason for it. All the talk all over these forums about how college students are "adults" who must be left to navigate this themselves is getting proven to be ridiculous. Are there responsible students out there? Yes. Are colleges themselves greatly to blame? Oh, yes, look at JMU's total lack of any plans or asymptomatic testing as just one horrible example. But the students themselves are not acting like the adults that posters here love to say they are. It's a cluster. And I do not mean a viral cluster.

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Anonymous wrote:A classic example of how schools are not reporting accurate information. UVA just brought students on campus but students have been in town living in off campus housing for several weeks.

A friends child was ill, went to get tested at the school's health center-negative test. Still felt ill a few days later, went to an off campus testing site, positive. UVA didn't report his positive test because they didn't conduct the test.

Should the surrounding areas work with the schools to get accurate numbers?

This is what off VT students have been doing for almost a month now. They get tested at CVS so they don’t have to tell the college and lose their access to campus.

+1 and they get tested at the Velocity urgent care, but no one can force an adult to disclose their results

Anonymous wrote:A classic example of how schools are not reporting accurate information. UVA just brought students on campus but students have been in town living in off campus housing for several weeks.

A friends child was ill, went to get tested at the school's health center-negative test. Still felt ill a few days later, went to an off campus testing site, positive. UVA didn't report his positive test because they didn't conduct the test.

Should the surrounding areas work with the schools to get accurate numbers?

This is what off VT students have been doing for almost a month now. They get tested at CVS so they don’t have to tell the college and lose their access to campus.

A classic example of how schools are not reporting accurate information. UVA just brought students on campus but students have been in town living in off campus housing for several weeks.

A friends child was ill, went to get tested at the school's health center-negative test. Still felt ill a few days later, went to an off campus testing site, positive. UVA didn't report his positive test because they didn't conduct the test.

Should the surrounding areas work with the schools to get accurate numbers?

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Anonymous wrote:California University of Pennsylvania senior DT Jamain Stephens Jr. died from complications of COVID-19, the school said. The 6-3, 355-pound Stephens was 20. His father, also named Jamain, was a 1st-round draft pick of the Steelers in 1996 & played 5 seasons in the NFL.

A death of a college student, a varsity athlete, no less.

Obese and black. Both high risk categories. Perhaps an underlying condition we also don’t know about? Not that he doesn’t matter but I’m not surprised. He fits the profile.

I am so glad you are not a police officer who does traffic stops

What happens when it is a white slender person? I am sure you will come up with some profile for them too.

Anonymous wrote:California University of Pennsylvania senior DT Jamain Stephens Jr. died from complications of COVID-19, the school said. The 6-3, 355-pound Stephens was 20. His father, also named Jamain, was a 1st-round draft pick of the Steelers in 1996 & played 5 seasons in the NFL.

A death of a college student, a varsity athlete, no less.

Obese and black. Both high risk categories. Perhaps an underlying condition we also don’t know about? Not that he doesn’t matter but I’m not surprised. He fits the profile.

Bradley U in Illinois going remote for 3 weeks.