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Anonymous wrote:

So if you are pro-life and you have a choice between two products that are otherwise equal, but one CEO and corporate foundation supports PP and the other supports the Church of Save Fetuses, and you don't care which one you buy, that is on you.

Here's the thing....sure I might buy the product from one CEO over another....BUT...there's a huge difference between respectfully choosing to buy one product over another and what's going on with the GOYA boycott....the GOYA boycott has crossed the line into purposefully defaming the CEO and GOYA brand over a very petty thing such as the CEO supporting POTUS.

You are probably the person who thinks it's ok to cut ties with friends/family members who support POTUS. Whatever happened to respecting everyone's differing political views/affiliation? It's the same as respecting respecting everyone's religious views.

135k dead Americans would say it's not so petty, if they weren't dead

Just curious... you folks always feel the need to make statements like these.
Did you make similar statements about the hundreds of thousands of deaths from the flu under Obama?

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So if you are pro-life and you have a choice between two products that are otherwise equal, but one CEO and corporate foundation supports PP and the other supports the Church of Save Fetuses, and you don't care which one you buy, that is on you.

Here's the thing....sure I might buy the product from one CEO over another....BUT...there's a huge difference between respectfully choosing to buy one product over another and what's going on with the GOYA boycott....the GOYA boycott has crossed the line into purposefully defaming the CEO and GOYA brand over a very petty thing such as the CEO supporting POTUS.

You are probably the person who thinks it's ok to cut ties with friends/family members who support POTUS. Whatever happened to respecting everyone's differing political views/affiliation? It's the same as respecting respecting everyone's religious views.

Why is this different than boycotting Chick-Fil-A because the CEO supports organizations that object to and fought gay marriage rights and LGBTQ rights? Or boycotting Hobby Lobby because they use religious objections to restrict the company provided health insurance from covering contraception to their female employees, or boycotting Home Depot because the co-Founder has provided a lot of donations to the Trump reelection campaign, boycotting Papa John after the CEO made racist remarks and used the N-word talking about NFL football players and so on?

CEO's, corporate founders and other senior corporate officers need to realize that when the are in prominent positions, they are the face of the company they represent. They need to be cautious about statements or actions that take political stances or show political support for controversial subjects and realize in a capitalist society, that there will be people who disagree with political statements and actions who will vote with their dollars. You may or may not agree with these people, but they have a right to control how they spend their dollars and to choose not to support organizations that have positions that are different from their customers and consumers.

Mr. Unanue could have easily thanked the President for certain actions that benefitted his company. But to blanket praise a leader with the comment "We're all truly blessed at the same time to have a leader like President Trump, who is a builder." when said leader has been responsible for horrible anti-Hispanic rhetoric and policies that directly affect a large portion of his customers, is just plain insensitive. And if you chooses to say such things and to defend such statements, then, he should not be surprised to see his family business profits change as his customers choose not to purchase his company's products over such an insensitive position.

^^PP...just like I don't blame any other country's president for the COVID deaths in their country.

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What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.

Exactly. I'm tired of folks not respecting others for their personal political/religious views. Like I said, I'm not a fan/supporter of Trump...but I have family members who are...we respect each other and agree to disagree. I don't cut ties with them and I would never "unfriend" someone just for having differing political/religious views. If the CEO of a business is pro-abortion and I'm not....that doesn't mean I wouldn't support the business. Same principle.

Anyone who does this is self-righteous and only believes their point of view is the right one and doesn't respect other people's opinions or views if they conflict. This extreme leftist self-righteous attitude that has taken hold over the last few years is actually pushing me the other way.

LOL you sound unhinged. It must be tough being the righteous warrior of conservatism or is that just your racism showing itself?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My family are new consumers of Goya products. Went to the local grocery store a few days ago - they were nearly sold out. And, we live in a rural area with few Hispanics.
I bought some rice and beans and it was delicious. Will continue to buy Goya.

Saw this yesterday.....

Go back to page 15 and read my post from 12:34.

While there is short-term buying of Goya products and they are selling off the shelves, traditionally people that boycott products and companies are long-term repeat buyers who switch to other brands. The people who are buying to object to boycotts are typically short-term buyers who are trying to counter a boycott. They will buy products now, but they are not typically repeat customers of such products and so after a month, two or three, they will stop their protest buying. So, boycotts often have no effect short term, but will have lasting effects after the current quarter or two goes by when the objectors stop buying but the boycotters do not return to the products.

LOL, those signs have been there since March, as they are for rices, pastas and other shelf-stable items that got cleaned out. Not a result of the recent topic.

Just at our local Safeway. The Goya section was fully stocked. Not a single space open on the shelves. Also much mire expensive vs other options. Now all around the Goya products, same products from different companies showed signs people were buying them.

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So if you are pro-life and you have a choice between two products that are otherwise equal, but one CEO and corporate foundation supports PP and the other supports the Church of Save Fetuses, and you don't care which one you buy, that is on you.

Here's the thing....sure I might buy the product from one CEO over another....BUT...there's a huge difference between respectfully choosing to buy one product over another and what's going on with the GOYA boycott....the GOYA boycott has crossed the line into purposefully defaming the CEO and GOYA brand over a very petty thing such as the CEO supporting POTUS.

You are probably the person who thinks it's ok to cut ties with friends/family members who support POTUS. Whatever happened to respecting everyone's differing political views/affiliation? It's the same as respecting respecting everyone's religious views.

135k dead Americans would say it's not so petty, if they weren't dead

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That's ridiculous. "Cancel culture" is a very new fad from the last year or two. Boycotting companies that support different political issues has been around for decades, long before the Internet was ever a thing.

In the 1980's Coca-Cola was the target of a major boycott due to their financial support of the white South African government and their apartheid system.
In the 1990's Mitsubishi was the target of a major boycott due to the deforestation of the rainforests.
Late 1990's to 2000's, there was a massive boycott of Thailand and Thai products due to the prostitution of Thai children.

And there are even corporate boycotts that go way earlier than that.

I wouldn't compare those boycotts to the GOYA one. The GOYA boycott is simply because the CEO supported POTUS, which I would never equate with supporting apartheid/discrimination, deforestation, or child prostitution.

I was trying to make a distinction between boycotts and cancel culture. I picked the most well known major boycotts, but there are many, many smaller boycotts that are closer in proportion to the Goya boycott:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_boycotts

So if you are pro-life and you have a choice between two products that are otherwise equal, but one CEO and corporate foundation supports PP and the other supports the Church of Save Fetuses, and you don't care which one you buy, that is on you.

Here's the thing....sure I might buy the product from one CEO over another....BUT...there's a huge difference between respectfully choosing to buy one product over another and what's going on with the GOYA boycott....the GOYA boycott has crossed the line into purposefully defaming the CEO and GOYA brand over a very petty thing such as the CEO supporting POTUS.

You are probably the person who thinks it's ok to cut ties with friends/family members who support POTUS. Whatever happened to respecting everyone's differing political views/affiliation? It's the same as respecting respecting everyone's religious views.

Anonymous wrote:

That's ridiculous. "Cancel culture" is a very new fad from the last year or two. Boycotting companies that support different political issues has been around for decades, long before the Internet was ever a thing.

In the 1980's Coca-Cola was the target of a major boycott due to their financial support of the white South African government and their apartheid system.
In the 1990's Mitsubishi was the target of a major boycott due to the deforestation of the rainforests.
Late 1990's to 2000's, there was a massive boycott of Thailand and Thai products due to the prostitution of Thai children.

And there are even corporate boycotts that go way earlier than that.

I wouldn't compare those boycotts to the GOYA one. The GOYA boycott is simply because the CEO supported POTUS, which I would never equate with supporting apartheid/discrimination, deforestation, or child prostitution.

Jeffrey Epstein’s ghost says, hold on a minute.

That's ridiculous. "Cancel culture" is a very new fad from the last year or two. Boycotting companies that support different political issues has been around for decades, long before the Internet was ever a thing.

In the 1980's Coca-Cola was the target of a major boycott due to their financial support of the white South African government and their apartheid system.
In the 1990's Mitsubishi was the target of a major boycott due to the deforestation of the rainforests.
Late 1990's to 2000's, there was a massive boycott of Thailand and Thai products due to the prostitution of Thai children.

And there are even corporate boycotts that go way earlier than that.

I wouldn't compare those boycotts to the GOYA one. The GOYA boycott is simply because the CEO supported POTUS, which I would never equate with supporting apartheid/discrimination, deforestation, or child prostitution.

Seems like now is the perfect market opportunity for someone like Jose Andreas to provide shelf-stable products to former Goya consumers. And he could use those profits to bolster the excellent work he’s doing with World Central Kitchen.

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Anonymous wrote:

What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.

A free market means an educated consumer can make their choices, however rational or irrational, based on whatever factors they wish. If one of those factors is where the profits from their purchase ends up, such as at a soup kitchen or a presidential candidate, is up to that consumer.

I have no idea what you are talking about in terms of cancel culture. We are free to buy what we want and support whatever causes we want, and the more we know about corporate leadership, the more informed we are to spend our dollars as we wish.

+1 and that's why it's best for companies not to find themselves affiliated with guys like this



you're free to use your dollars buying products from companies whose ceos speak up in favor of that guy

i'm free not to!

capitalism is a good system

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My family are new consumers of Goya products. Went to the local grocery store a few days ago - they were nearly sold out. And, we live in a rural area with few Hispanics.
I bought some rice and beans and it was delicious. Will continue to buy Goya.

Saw this yesterday.....

Go back to page 15 and read my post from 12:34.

While there is short-term buying of Goya products and they are selling off the shelves, traditionally people that boycott products and companies are long-term repeat buyers who switch to other brands. The people who are buying to object to boycotts are typically short-term buyers who are trying to counter a boycott. They will buy products now, but they are not typically repeat customers of such products and so after a month, two or three, they will stop their protest buying. So, boycotts often have no effect short term, but will have lasting effects after the current quarter or two goes by when the objectors stop buying but the boycotters do not return to the products.

LOL, those signs have been there since March, as they are for rices, pastas and other shelf-stable items that got cleaned out. Not a result of the recent topic.

Anonymous wrote:

What is "virtuous" to one may not be to another.
I totally agree with the first pp here. It is the perfect example of cancel culture. And, evidence that the left's narrative about supporting Hispanics is a huge lie. Seems that just like only some black lives matter, only some Hispanics and immigrants are worthy of support......Only those who don't support the current president.
And, pp, a true free market doesn't hinge on who or what the CEO supports or what he says, unrelated to the business. A free market is truly free. Free of outrage on the part of the left because - gasp - the CEO states support of the president.

Exactly. I'm tired of folks not respecting others for their personal political/religious views. Like I said, I'm not a fan/supporter of Trump...but I have family members who are...we respect each other and agree to disagree. I don't cut ties with them and I would never "unfriend" someone just for having differing political/religious views. If the CEO of a business is pro-abortion and I'm not....that doesn't mean I wouldn't support the business. Same principle.

Anyone who does this is self-righteous and only believes their point of view is the right one and doesn't respect other people's opinions or views if they conflict. This extreme leftist self-righteous attitude that has taken hold over the last few years is actually pushing me the other way.

So if you are pro-life and you have a choice between two products that are otherwise equal, but one CEO and corporate foundation supports PP and the other supports the Church of Save Fetuses, and you don't care which one you buy, that is on you.

If you were as "virtuous" as you claim to be, you would be boycotting companies like Adidas, Nike, and Apple for their labor policies. Not a company because the CEO voiced support of a democratically supported president.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/siminamistreanu/2020/03/02/study-links-nike-adidas-and-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/#449e6eb91003