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"If you were cooperative and put your hands on your wheel (like we are all taught to do, regardless of race), there should be no issue, even with dark tinted windows."

I'm white, and my parents never had that talk with me, but it is common place in AA families - for a reason (an not a good reason).

And are you actually refuting what the AA woman said she has actually had to deal with? Without being there or knowing any of the circumstances you are certain race played no factor? Wow.

Well, try being uncooperative with a police officer the next time you are stopped for speeding and see what happens. The reaction will have nothing to do with the color of your skin.

As for refuting what the person said, I simply raised the possibility that there may have been reasons for what happened other than those of race.

Believe it or not, Montgomery County is not crawling with racist police officers and racist nurses who discriminate against people of color.

Reducing every interaction to one of race and discrimination serves only to create division instead of healing it. Kendi is one of a long line of people who have made a lot of money from perpetuating a racist ideology.

What I refute, and refute most strongly, is that the United States is an inherently racist country. It simply isn't true.

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+1 on the good intentions, but I'm feeling less confident about SR getting to the point where it's a real conversation and different viewpoints are discussed. I'm less confident because it seems like the school is committed to Kendi's vein of DEI and that does not allow for real conversation, space for students to come to their own conclusion. Also, after the last communication, it sounds like SR is doubling down on their chosen approach. Maybe I'm wrong.

It's not designed for conversation and the exchange of different views. That's the whole point. If you're white, you're automatically part of the problem and you can't escape it.

It's inherently racist.

The irony is completely lost on the bleeding hearts that run SR.

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Anonymous wrote:"The latest affinity v accountability workshop was clumsy, but the intentions are good and more conversations are needed."

I agree that intentions were good, but we might have a different definition of the word "conversation." To me that word means a number of people gather and offer their point of view. In recent DEI circles, however, "conversation" means being told what to believe and not questioning it. In my experience there is no room for conservative opinion in any of these "conversations." DEI leaders quote Ibram X Kendi like no one ever wrote a book until he thought of doing it but few bother to acknowledge the existence of people like Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas.

Pp of the post replied to - i an sorry you and probably Some students feel like that. I hope this view is communicated diplomatically so that conservative Catholics/ conservative students in general feel like there is room for them to express their views without becoming heated.

This issue of how to respond in intelligent and kind ways to this BLM moment is going on in broader society.
Our girls need to find ways to lead in respectful talks/ debates about relevant issues etc. i agree with you that there needs to be safe space for the girls to come to their own conclusions and meaningful responses - not to be dictated exactly how to think. It will take time to get this roght, or at least resonant, but i have faith they will get there.

+1 on the good intentions, but I'm feeling less confident about SR getting to the point where it's a real conversation and different viewpoints are discussed. I'm less confident because it seems like the school is committed to Kendi's vein of DEI and that does not allow for real conversation, space for students to come to their own conclusion. Also, after the last communication, it sounds like SR is doubling down on their chosen approach. Maybe I'm wrong.

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+1. AA here that has posted. My family has faced many of those disparities. Just because I can afford 40k tuition, doesn’t mean the cops haven’t pointed a gun at me during a traffic stop because my windows were tinted too dark, or I didn’t get pain medication during trips to the ER because they thought I was drug seeking and could handle the pain when it was actually appendicitis. Those are just examples off the top of my head.

If a cop stops a car with dark tinted windows, I'm sure his/her hand is going to be on their gun regardless of the color of the occupant. A cop is bound to be more alert in a situation where he/she cannot physically see the occupant(s) of a vehicle they have stopped. I know it's not popular to do so right now, but try and see the situation from the cop's point of view. A traffic stop can be (and has been) deadly. If you were cooperative and put your hands on your wheel (like we are all taught to do, regardless of race), there should be no issue, even with dark tinted windows.

As for the hospital, I'm sure they didn't withhold pain medication once a diagnosis was complete. They wouldn't hand out pain medication to a white person who showed up at the ER asking for it either.

This is my issue with DEI. It reduces every interaction to one of racism and discrimination. They are many reasons for what happens during an interaction and it is usually not about race, certainly not in Montgomery County.

"If you were cooperative and put your hands on your wheel (like we are all taught to do, regardless of race), there should be no issue, even with dark tinted windows."

I'm white, and my parents never had that talk with me, but it is common place in AA families - for a reason (an not a good reason).

And are you actually refuting what the AA woman said she has actually had to deal with? Without being there or knowing any of the circumstances you are certain race played no factor? Wow.

Anonymous wrote:"The latest affinity v accountability workshop was clumsy, but the intentions are good and more conversations are needed."

I agree that intentions were good, but we might have a different definition of the word "conversation." To me that word means a number of people gather and offer their point of view. In recent DEI circles, however, "conversation" means being told what to believe and not questioning it. In my experience there is no room for conservative opinion in any of these "conversations." DEI leaders quote Ibram X Kendi like no one ever wrote a book until he thought of doing it but few bother to acknowledge the existence of people like Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas.

Pp of the post replied to - i an sorry you and probably Some students feel like that. I hope this view is communicated diplomatically so that conservative Catholics/ conservative students in general feel like there is room for them to express their views without becoming heated.

This issue of how to respond in intelligent and kind ways to this BLM moment is going on in broader society.
Our girls need to find ways to lead in respectful talks/ debates about relevant issues etc. i agree with you that there needs to be safe space for the girls to come to their own conclusions and meaningful responses - not to be dictated exactly how to think. It will take time to get this roght, or at least resonant, but i have faith they will get there.

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+1. AA here that has posted. My family has faced many of those disparities. Just because I can afford 40k tuition, doesn’t mean the cops haven’t pointed a gun at me during a traffic stop because my windows were tinted too dark, or I didn’t get pain medication during trips to the ER because they thought I was drug seeking and could handle the pain when it was actually appendicitis. Those are just examples off the top of my head.

If a cop stops a car with dark tinted windows, I'm sure his/her hand is going to be on their gun regardless of the color of the occupant. A cop is bound to be more alert in a situation where he/she cannot physically see the occupant(s) of a vehicle they have stopped. I know it's not popular to do so right now, but try and see the situation from the cop's point of view. A traffic stop can be (and has been) deadly. If you were cooperative and put your hands on your wheel (like we are all taught to do, regardless of race), there should be no issue, even with dark tinted windows.

As for the hospital, I'm sure they didn't withhold pain medication once a diagnosis was complete. They wouldn't hand out pain medication to a white person who showed up at the ER asking for it either.

This is my issue with DEI. It reduces every interaction to one of racism and discrimination. They are many reasons for what happens during an interaction and it is usually not about race, certainly not in Montgomery County.

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Anonymous wrote:No one who attends Stone Ridge is a true victim of anything. Those girls are life's winners. If they don't succeed or aren't happy in life, it won't be because of hidden "systemic" forces that have worked against them, it will be because they didn't take advantage of the opportunities before them.

I'm interested to know how systemic racism has played a part in enabling students to attend one of the most privileged schools in the area, with a price tag of $40K a year, when the vast majority of young people have to attend public school.

Well, school is just one part of a person's life. And many times its the parents who have faced systemic racism and have overcome those obstacles to be able to send their daughter to Stone Ridge. Just because there are students of color at Stone Ridge does not mean these students and their families have not dealt with systemic racism at others schools, in the health care system, in the courts, trying to finance a mortgage or take out a small business loan, and so on.

+1. AA here that has posted. My family has faced many of those disparities. Just because I can afford 40k tuition, doesn’t mean the cops haven’t pointed a gun at me during a traffic stop because my windows were tinted too dark, or I didn’t get pain medication during trips to the ER because they thought I was drug seeking and could handle the pain when it was actually appendicitis. Those are just examples off the top of my head.

US SR parent here--the fact that SR has implemented a DEI program is not the issue. The issue is the WAY they have chosen to implement it with an aggressive focus on intersectionality and following the Kendi playbook very closely. FWIW, we are neither conservative or progressive "woke" liberals. We have attended a couple of the Better Together sessions; one was good, the other was a waste of time. These sessions are way more superficial and were very different than what my daughter explains is being discussed.

Someone mentioned the @blackatstoneridge account--while I have no doubt that mistakes were made and there are people who were genuinely upset by things that have happened at SR, I know that a number of those posts were gross exaggerations or flat out false (because I knew the situation the poster was referring to). So, I take those posts as part of a larger issue with ongoing racism/ignorance, but I do not take those as evidence of what it's like at SR.

As for academics, I can't speak to LS or MS, but the upper school offers a wide range of classes so that some girls will take an extremely rigorous schedule while others will take a less strenuous course. This is reflected in the college acceptances. Personally, I like that there are options because it allows for a more diverse group of students and doesn't translate into pressure cooker environment.

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Anonymous wrote:No one who attends Stone Ridge is a true victim of anything. Those girls are life's winners. If they don't succeed or aren't happy in life, it won't be because of hidden "systemic" forces that have worked against them, it will be because they didn't take advantage of the opportunities before them.

I'm interested to know how systemic racism has played a part in enabling students to attend one of the most privileged schools in the area, with a price tag of $40K a year, when the vast majority of young people have to attend public school.

Well, school is just one part of a person's life. And many times its the parents who have faced systemic racism and have overcome those obstacles to be able to send their daughter to Stone Ridge. Just because there are students of color at Stone Ridge does not mean these students and their families have not dealt with systemic racism at others schools, in the health care system, in the courts, trying to finance a mortgage or take out a small business loan, and so on.

Montgomery County is majority-minority so those discriminatory courts, health care system, mortage brokers and bankers must be busy with all the discriminating they need to do!

The numbers for the 2020 Census are out, and Montgomery County clocked in as 53% white. The next biggest racial group is Black/African-American at 18.46%. So how exactly is MoCo majority miniority?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/md/montgomery-county-population

Full census data isn't out until September, but from last census:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/growing-diversity-in-mds-suburbs/2011/02/09/ABCjrmF_story.html

Minorities have become a majority over the past decade in affluent Montgomery County as the number of whites has plummeted, according to census figures released Wednesday.

Barely 49 percent of Montgomery's 972,000 residents are non-Hispanic whites, down from almost 60 percent in 2000 and 72 percent a decade before that. Hispanics rose by two-thirds and make up about 17 percent of the county's population.

Then if you look at people who are not elderly (those tend to be more white), in other words people in school or in the workplace, and it's even more majority-minority.

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Because of their race? Doubtful.

Is the color of someone's skin now the only arbiter of their experience?

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Well, school is just one part of a person's life. And many times its the parents who have faced systemic racism and have overcome those obstacles to be able to send their daughter to Stone Ridge. Just because there are students of color at Stone Ridge does not mean these students and their families have not dealt with systemic racism at others schools, in the health care system, in the courts, trying to finance a mortgage or take out a small business loan, and so on.

And white people have never faced hardship and struggles, and had to overcome obstacles to be able to send their daughters to Stone Ridge?

Because of their race? Doubtful.

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Well, school is just one part of a person's life. And many times its the parents who have faced systemic racism and have overcome those obstacles to be able to send their daughter to Stone Ridge. Just because there are students of color at Stone Ridge does not mean these students and their families have not dealt with systemic racism at others schools, in the health care system, in the courts, trying to finance a mortgage or take out a small business loan, and so on.

And white people have never faced hardship and struggles, and had to overcome obstacles to be able to send their daughters to Stone Ridge?

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Anonymous wrote:As an AA parent, this “mess” criticism is offensive. Have any of you considered that maybe the minority students appreciated these sessions? DEI work is difficult to hear, implement and process. If this work was easy to navigate we wouldn’t need it.

+1

Thanks for sharing that perspective. I'm a white SR parent and support the schools DEI's efforts and have been impressed with the level of involvement form the student leaders.

I’m the AA parent quoted here. My DD is one of the student leaders for BSA and has been throughout her entire time at SR. I am truly grateful for the opportunities that being a student there as afforded her. I am catholic and wanted a strong catholic education focused on service, respect of other cultures, religions, and races. I think DH and me are great parents and have raised a great young woman, but there is no doubt in our minds that SR created a safe space for DD to explore, and be brave in the difficult spaces of navigating a white dominated culture.

Maybe if our/your children had these difficult conversations earlier life they wouldn’t be so difficult when it’s time to make hard choices as adults. AA have always had to tiptoe around white people’s feelings. Enrolling DD @ SR has given me exactly what I hoped for. She has a strong sense of community and commitment to social justice. Is it perfect? No. But no place is, but I got my more than my money’s worth.

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Anonymous wrote:No one who attends Stone Ridge is a true victim of anything. Those girls are life's winners. If they don't succeed or aren't happy in life, it won't be because of hidden "systemic" forces that have worked against them, it will be because they didn't take advantage of the opportunities before them.

I'm interested to know how systemic racism has played a part in enabling students to attend one of the most privileged schools in the area, with a price tag of $40K a year, when the vast majority of young people have to attend public school.

Well, school is just one part of a person's life. And many times its the parents who have faced systemic racism and have overcome those obstacles to be able to send their daughter to Stone Ridge. Just because there are students of color at Stone Ridge does not mean these students and their families have not dealt with systemic racism at others schools, in the health care system, in the courts, trying to finance a mortgage or take out a small business loan, and so on.

Montgomery County is majority-minority so those discriminatory courts, health care system, mortage brokers and bankers must be busy with all the discriminating they need to do!

The numbers for the 2020 Census are out, and Montgomery County clocked in as 53% white. The next biggest racial group is Black/African-American at 18.46%. So how exactly is MoCo majority miniority?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-counties/md/montgomery-county-population

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Anonymous wrote:No one who attends Stone Ridge is a true victim of anything. Those girls are life's winners. If they don't succeed or aren't happy in life, it won't be because of hidden "systemic" forces that have worked against them, it will be because they didn't take advantage of the opportunities before them.

I'm interested to know how systemic racism has played a part in enabling students to attend one of the most privileged schools in the area, with a price tag of $40K a year, when the vast majority of young people have to attend public school.

Well, school is just one part of a person's life. And many times its the parents who have faced systemic racism and have overcome those obstacles to be able to send their daughter to Stone Ridge. Just because there are students of color at Stone Ridge does not mean these students and their families have not dealt with systemic racism at others schools, in the health care system, in the courts, trying to finance a mortgage or take out a small business loan, and so on.

Montgomery County is majority-minority so those discriminatory courts, health care system, mortage brokers and bankers must be busy with all the discriminating they need to do!