Anonymous
Post 06/18/2020 11:43     Subject: Re:US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Although it was a terrible idea to switch to birth year in the first place (players of international quality should be playing at least two age groups ahead, so what difference does it make? Just have the international squads play according to birth year like the rest of the world.), going back is not happening. Add it to the list of negative impacts on US Soccer by Jurgen Klinsmann. The Germans had figured out he was an empty suit and fired him, but Sunil Gulati had not appreciated that and hired him. Now Klinsmann can't get a job even in Germany, and many kids in the US who want to play soccer for fun with their classmates can't do so.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 17:23     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

This is not happening. This comes up yearly and is dismissed yearly. No one wants to go through this again.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 17:19     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:Leaving it as birth year impacts the attraction and retention of players in perpetuity. Fewer kids playing every year in the future because your sept/oct/nov/dec kids don’t want to play with kids a grade ahead of them in school and can’t play with classmates.

A change back to school year has massive benefits (play with classmates, no awkward transition times or players left off of teams) and will inconvenience only the current group of players - 1/3 of whom would get screwed in high school under the birth year system anyway when 2/3s of their team graduates.

It may have a minor impact on development for the 1% of the 1% international caliber players, but if they are that good they won’t be here long anyway.


A year is a year.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 17:19     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:
Is USSF actively discussing this?


No, it is the same parent stirring the pot again.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 15:50     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

right. then you can have one of those 17 year old 9th graders who just came to the US from some other country and gets to play against your 15 year old.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 15:45     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:For Birth Year, clubs ask for a copy of birth certificates or passports. For Grade Year, what do clubs ask to see to verify?


It's not what grade they are in, it's that the year will be August 1 - July 31st, insteat of Jan 1 - Dec 31st.


good grief... why did this need explaining?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 15:05     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:Leaving it as birth year impacts the attraction and retention of players in perpetuity. Fewer kids playing every year in the future because your sept/oct/nov/dec kids don’t want to play with kids a grade ahead of them in school and can’t play with classmates.

A change back to school year has massive benefits (play with classmates, no awkward transition times or players left off of teams) and will inconvenience only the current group of players - 1/3 of whom would get screwed in high school under the birth year system anyway when 2/3s of their team graduates.

It may have a minor impact on development for the 1% of the 1% international caliber players, but if they are that good they won’t be here long anyway.


Everyone says this until their Freshman kid trys out for and makes the Varsity HS team.

It is a crutch argument.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 15:03     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Leaving it as birth year impacts the attraction and retention of players in perpetuity. Fewer kids playing every year in the future because your sept/oct/nov/dec kids don’t want to play with kids a grade ahead of them in school and can’t play with classmates.

A change back to school year has massive benefits (play with classmates, no awkward transition times or players left off of teams) and will inconvenience only the current group of players - 1/3 of whom would get screwed in high school under the birth year system anyway when 2/3s of their team graduates.

It may have a minor impact on development for the 1% of the 1% international caliber players, but if they are that good they won’t be here long anyway.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 14:40     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:With COVID-19, many clubs & leagues are suffering financially. In addition, kids might not return to soccer.

Now you add the age change, everyone will throw you off a bridge.

There’s dumb and then there’s extremely stupidity. The age change will be the latter.


Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe ~ Albert Einstein
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 14:39     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Never going to happen.


Don't be so sure


Is USSF actively discussing this?


What do you know? Please share.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 14:33     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Never going to happen.


Don't be so sure


Is USSF actively discussing this?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 13:04     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

With COVID-19, many clubs & leagues are suffering financially. In addition, kids might not return to soccer.

Now you add the age change, everyone will throw you off a bridge.

There’s dumb and then there’s extremely stupidity. The age change will be the latter.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 12:48     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

so essentially all of the youth national teams will have to be re-organized as well? wishful thinking. I don't think USSF has the budget for that right now.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2020 12:13     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous wrote:Never going to happen.


Don't be so sure
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2020 23:38     Subject: US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

No need to change age groups. Makes a difficult time more difficult