Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 08:55     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real issue is: what example do you set for your impressionable child? The answer is: when we destroy someone else’s stuff, we take responsibility for that. (Or do y’all want your kid to see you arguing the fine points about how close the phone was to the pool? Oy.)


Actually I think most people who leave their phones in dangerous places (like on the side of a kiddie pool) don't expect others to replace it. They know they were making risky choices.


This doesn’t seem to be getting through: has nothing to do with what the phone owner expects. It is about what is the right behavior to show the child. The right behavior is we broke it, so we take responsibility for it.


The right behavior to demonstrate to a 2 year old?! My two year old has no idea phones cost money. She doesn’t really understand that anything costs money or that money is limited. She’s 2. Yesterday she walked towards the pool with her towel and a funny look on her face. I said DO NOT put that towel in the pool. She dropped it in the pool without breaking eye contact. I rung it out and explained that now she didn’t have a towel to get warm and dry because she soaked hers. She blinked and me and then sat down and switched her water shoes from the correct feet to the wrong feet and then asked me for apple juice. But sure, if it had been some idiot’s phone she would have learned a lifelong lesson by me paying for it. Do you even have kids?


NP. You contradict yourself. You taught your daughter the consequence of her putting her towel in the pool - now it's wet. Why wouldn't you teach her the consequence of throwing someone's phone in the pool?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 08:21     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was an accident. That’s what insurance is for. A two year old admit responsible obviously but leaving a phone where a child can reach it is negligent. The phone owner is at fault. Not the mother of the child. As for whether it was a “deliberate act” a 2 year old is not capable of a deliberate act in a meaningful sense with regard to protecting or understanding property.


Who buys insurance on a cell phone?


When phones were less expensive, most people didn't have insurance. Now that smartphones cost $500-1000, I pay for insurance.


Awkward situation but I’m not buying you a new phone because you left it unattended at the baby pool.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 08:19     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a crazy idea:

If you go to the baby pool, you should expect babies to be there. And here’s the really crazy part - you should expect babies to act like babies and toddlers to act like toddlers. If you don’t want them playing with your phone, don’t put it where the pool toys are kept.



An even crazier idea:

Parents take responsibility for their baby and toddler. Parents learn to actively supervise, watch and parent their baby and toddler. If you don’t want to parent your child, stay home.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 08:05     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Here’s a crazy idea:

If you go to the baby pool, you should expect babies to be there. And here’s the really crazy part - you should expect babies to act like babies and toddlers to act like toddlers. If you don’t want them playing with your phone, don’t put it where the pool toys are kept.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 08:02     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It was an accident. That’s what insurance is for. A two year old admit responsible obviously but leaving a phone where a child can reach it is negligent. The phone owner is at fault. Not the mother of the child. As for whether it was a “deliberate act” a 2 year old is not capable of a deliberate act in a meaningful sense with regard to protecting or understanding property.


Who buys insurance on a cell phone?


When phones were less expensive, most people didn't have insurance. Now that smartphones cost $500-1000, I pay for insurance.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 07:53     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:Just offer to let her throw the preschooler in the pool. Now you’re even!


Best solution!
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 07:53     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:It was an accident. That’s what insurance is for. A two year old admit responsible obviously but leaving a phone where a child can reach it is negligent. The phone owner is at fault. Not the mother of the child. As for whether it was a “deliberate act” a 2 year old is not capable of a deliberate act in a meaningful sense with regard to protecting or understanding property.


Who buys insurance on a cell phone?
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 00:18     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

I would leave right away to avoid the hassle
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 00:17     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

It was an accident. That’s what insurance is for. A two year old admit responsible obviously but leaving a phone where a child can reach it is negligent. The phone owner is at fault. Not the mother of the child. As for whether it was a “deliberate act” a 2 year old is not capable of a deliberate act in a meaningful sense with regard to protecting or understanding property.
Anonymous
Post 05/30/2019 00:07     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real issue is: what example do you set for your impressionable child? The answer is: when we destroy someone else’s stuff, we take responsibility for that. (Or do y’all want your kid to see you arguing the fine points about how close the phone was to the pool? Oy.)


Actually I think most people who leave their phones in dangerous places (like on the side of a kiddie pool) don't expect others to replace it. They know they were making risky choices.


This doesn’t seem to be getting through: has nothing to do with what the phone owner expects. It is about what is the right behavior to show the child. The right behavior is we broke it, so we take responsibility for it.


The right behavior to demonstrate to a 2 year old?! My two year old has no idea phones cost money. She doesn’t really understand that anything costs money or that money is limited. She’s 2. Yesterday she walked towards the pool with her towel and a funny look on her face. I said DO NOT put that towel in the pool. She dropped it in the pool without breaking eye contact. I rung it out and explained that now she didn’t have a towel to get warm and dry because she soaked hers. She blinked and me and then sat down and switched her water shoes from the correct feet to the wrong feet and then asked me for apple juice. But sure, if it had been some idiot’s phone she would have learned a lifelong lesson by me paying for it. Do you even have kids?


So sorry your child is mentally challenged! Thoughts and prayers.


this reflects poorly on you.

Sounds like a normal two year old, doing her job now which is trying things out, experimenting with phsyics, math, actions and consequences. She is doing her job. OP handled it well. You don't take a kid home from the pool because they dropped their towel in. Natural consequences, like OP gave, are perfect. You save the leaving right away consequence for the big things, like biting someone or trying to drown herself.

No surprise. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2019 22:42     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:

Sounds like a normal two year old, doing her job now which is trying things out, experimenting with phsyics, math, actions and consequences. She is doing her job. OP handled it well. You don't take a kid home from the pool because they dropped their towel in. Natural consequences, like OP gave, are perfect.


Make the kid "help" wring out the towel.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2019 22:40     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:aren't most phones waterproof now?

Even if this one wasn't, it just needs to be dried out in a ziploc of dry rice. They should wait at least 3 days before taking it out of the bag and trying to turn it on.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2019 22:37     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

aren't most phones waterproof now?
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2019 22:37     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real issue is: what example do you set for your impressionable child? The answer is: when we destroy someone else’s stuff, we take responsibility for that. (Or do y’all want your kid to see you arguing the fine points about how close the phone was to the pool? Oy.)


Actually I think most people who leave their phones in dangerous places (like on the side of a kiddie pool) don't expect others to replace it. They know they were making risky choices.


This doesn’t seem to be getting through: has nothing to do with what the phone owner expects. It is about what is the right behavior to show the child. The right behavior is we broke it, so we take responsibility for it.


The right behavior to demonstrate to a 2 year old?! My two year old has no idea phones cost money. She doesn’t really understand that anything costs money or that money is limited. She’s 2. Yesterday she walked towards the pool with her towel and a funny look on her face. I said DO NOT put that towel in the pool. She dropped it in the pool without breaking eye contact. I rung it out and explained that now she didn’t have a towel to get warm and dry because she soaked hers. She blinked and me and then sat down and switched her water shoes from the correct feet to the wrong feet and then asked me for apple juice. But sure, if it had been some idiot’s phone she would have learned a lifelong lesson by me paying for it. Do you even have kids?


So sorry your child is mentally challenged! Thoughts and prayers.


this reflects poorly on you.

Sounds like a normal two year old, doing her job now which is trying things out, experimenting with phsyics, math, actions and consequences. She is doing her job. OP handled it well. You don't take a kid home from the pool because they dropped their towel in. Natural consequences, like OP gave, are perfect. You save the leaving right away consequence for the big things, like biting someone or trying to drown herself.
Anonymous
Post 05/29/2019 22:30     Subject: Who pays, preschooler threw phone in pool

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The real issue is: what example do you set for your impressionable child? The answer is: when we destroy someone else’s stuff, we take responsibility for that. (Or do y’all want your kid to see you arguing the fine points about how close the phone was to the pool? Oy.)


Actually I think most people who leave their phones in dangerous places (like on the side of a kiddie pool) don't expect others to replace it. They know they were making risky choices.


This doesn’t seem to be getting through: has nothing to do with what the phone owner expects. It is about what is the right behavior to show the child. The right behavior is we broke it, so we take responsibility for it.


The right behavior to demonstrate to a 2 year old?! My two year old has no idea phones cost money. She doesn’t really understand that anything costs money or that money is limited. She’s 2. Yesterday she walked towards the pool with her towel and a funny look on her face. I said DO NOT put that towel in the pool. She dropped it in the pool without breaking eye contact. I rung it out and explained that now she didn’t have a towel to get warm and dry because she soaked hers. She blinked and me and then sat down and switched her water shoes from the correct feet to the wrong feet and then asked me for apple juice. But sure, if it had been some idiot’s phone she would have learned a lifelong lesson by me paying for it. Do you even have kids?


She sounds awesome! Glad to hear that you enjoy her.