Anonymous
05/12/2019 20:42
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There used to be a succinct response to your type of bile, which seems appropriate now:
“America - Love it or leave it!”
And this is why, boys and girls, you can never have a nuanced conversation about America with Americans if you're an immigrant. The only emotion you are allowed to display is unadulterated adoration. I've gone through this hundreds of times and no matter how liberal or sophisticated the crowd, it always comes back to this. Always.
Yes, I always try to start nuanced conversations with lines like "First, fk your dumb ass, racist post"; it always helps to establish rapport first.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 20:26
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:
There used to be a succinct response to your type of bile, which seems appropriate now:
“America - Love it or leave it!”
And this is why, boys and girls, you can never have a nuanced conversation about America with Americans if you're an immigrant. The only emotion you are allowed to display is unadulterated adoration. I've gone through this hundreds of times and no matter how liberal or sophisticated the crowd, it always comes back to this. Always.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:52
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So - a DC woman tweeted out a photo of a uniformed metro employee eating on the Metro, noting that Metro prohibits eating on the metro, and complaining about a metro employee violating the same rule metro employees ask riders to respect. The tweeter is Arab American and the metro employee she complained about is a black woman. Now her publisher and book distributor are cancelling her novel's publication as a result. (See Post article below: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/05/11/dc-pundit-shamed-metro-worker-eating-train-now-her-book-deal-is-jeopardy/?utm_term=.804898e5dbb8).
So, I agree her tweet was unnecessary and thoughtless: metro employees are low wage workers who get very short breaks, and this poor metro employee could now get fired.
But a) Metro does enforce its no eating policy, often in absurd and horrible ways, often against people of color, so is it really inherently horrendous for the tweeting author to highlight that this is a bit hypocritical? (see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metro-transit-police-arrest-teenager-for-carrying-chips-and-lollipop-into-station/2016/10/19/1360a014-9627-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?utm_term=.fe6adc99091b)
And b) If she had instead posted a photo of a uniformed DC cop breaking a law that other people go to jail for breaking (maybe having an open container of alcohol, or peeing in an alley), would everyone be calling her a racist if the cop in her photo was African America - as opposed to thanking her for highlighting police hypocrisy?
And c) Her book was cancelled, WTF? Even if you think her tweet was completely thoughtless, should this really lead to her book being nixed?
I consider myself very much on the left and I think both commuters and metro employees should be able to eat on the metro without fear of arrest or discipline, and I also think low wage workers get a shitty deal, and low wage African American female workers get a particularly shitty deal. But I also think it's frightening that this tweeter's NOVEL has been cancelled because of a tweet that was, at worst, thoughtless, for which she has already apologized.
Am I missing something?
While we don’t want to jump on the race bandwagon, many Arabs are racist. They will often be obsequious to white people but dismissive or outright rude to black people. Is this writer racist? I don’t know. Would she have taken a picture of a white employee eating? I don’t know the answer to that either. I do have an issue with her publishing the employee’s picture. Regardless of the fact that she was breaking the rules, she doesn’t deserve to be shamed publicly. Metro has a system in place for complaints, and she should have gone that route.
See the bolded statement. That one gross generalization about an entire group negates the rest of your entire post. Too bad, because you had a point there when you say she should have filed a complaint rather than posting online. But blathering that "many Arabs are racist" is so vastly general and nasty that it paints you pretty poorly. Fill in any other group for "Arabs" there and it's an equally stupid generalization, and those kinds of blanket statements only make today's antagonistic environment worse, never better.
I’ve lived in the Middle East for 11 years, so I know a little more than you, and this is not some gross generalization. I’ve witnessed it, black Arabs have told me about their experiences, and other Arabs have discussed it with me. This is not ‘blathering’ but something that actually happens. I did not say all Arabs; I said many.
What my Arab friends tell me is that American blacks are the most racist people they have met in their lives.
Not American whites or Latinos. Blacks.
Having worked in several Arab countries, I found that Arabs are terribly racist. The poor guest workers are treated terribly and exploited.
How is it “racist” to hold a Metro employee to obeying the law?!
I am an Arab, a Jordanian American, too. First, fk your dumb ass, racist post. I lived the majority of my life in the US between the Midwest and East Coast, I can definitely also generalize and say white American are racist based on my experience and observations alone. I hate people like you, yes, hate: who go somewhere new and act with a colonialist and orientalist approach and consider those of us who don’t fit their condescending and shitty view to be ‘too Western’ and soew swewping shitty generalizations about a culture and a language they barely understand. Go fk urself, for real.
Also, what NT did was petty and wrong but it wasn’t racially motivated, Jessica.
There used to be a succinct response to your type of bile, which seems appropriate now:
“America - Love it or leave it!”
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:41
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
I really wanna know what she was eating.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:37
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So - a DC woman tweeted out a photo of a uniformed metro employee eating on the Metro, noting that Metro prohibits eating on the metro, and complaining about a metro employee violating the same rule metro employees ask riders to respect. The tweeter is Arab American and the metro employee she complained about is a black woman. Now her publisher and book distributor are cancelling her novel's publication as a result. (See Post article below: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2019/05/11/dc-pundit-shamed-metro-worker-eating-train-now-her-book-deal-is-jeopardy/?utm_term=.804898e5dbb8).
So, I agree her tweet was unnecessary and thoughtless: metro employees are low wage workers who get very short breaks, and this poor metro employee could now get fired.
But a) Metro does enforce its no eating policy, often in absurd and horrible ways, often against people of color, so is it really inherently horrendous for the tweeting author to highlight that this is a bit hypocritical? (see: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/metro-transit-police-arrest-teenager-for-carrying-chips-and-lollipop-into-station/2016/10/19/1360a014-9627-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?utm_term=.fe6adc99091b)
And b) If she had instead posted a photo of a uniformed DC cop breaking a law that other people go to jail for breaking (maybe having an open container of alcohol, or peeing in an alley), would everyone be calling her a racist if the cop in her photo was African America - as opposed to thanking her for highlighting police hypocrisy?
And c) Her book was cancelled, WTF? Even if you think her tweet was completely thoughtless, should this really lead to her book being nixed?
I consider myself very much on the left and I think both commuters and metro employees should be able to eat on the metro without fear of arrest or discipline, and I also think low wage workers get a shitty deal, and low wage African American female workers get a particularly shitty deal. But I also think it's frightening that this tweeter's NOVEL has been cancelled because of a tweet that was, at worst, thoughtless, for which she has already apologized.
Am I missing something?
While we don’t want to jump on the race bandwagon, many Arabs are racist. They will often be obsequious to white people but dismissive or outright rude to black people. Is this writer racist? I don’t know. Would she have taken a picture of a white employee eating? I don’t know the answer to that either. I do have an issue with her publishing the employee’s picture. Regardless of the fact that she was breaking the rules, she doesn’t deserve to be shamed publicly. Metro has a system in place for complaints, and she should have gone that route.
See the bolded statement. That one gross generalization about an entire group negates the rest of your entire post. Too bad, because you had a point there when you say she should have filed a complaint rather than posting online. But blathering that "many Arabs are racist" is so vastly general and nasty that it paints you pretty poorly. Fill in any other group for "Arabs" there and it's an equally stupid generalization, and those kinds of blanket statements only make today's antagonistic environment worse, never better.
I’ve lived in the Middle East for 11 years, so I know a little more than you, and this is not some gross generalization. I’ve witnessed it, black Arabs have told me about their experiences, and other Arabs have discussed it with me. This is not ‘blathering’ but something that actually happens. I did not say all Arabs; I said many.
What my Arab friends tell me is that American blacks are the most racist people they have met in their lives.
Not American whites or Latinos. Blacks.
Having worked in several Arab countries, I found that Arabs are terribly racist. The poor guest workers are treated terribly and exploited.
How is it “racist” to hold a Metro employee to obeying the law?!
I am an Arab, a Jordanian American, too. First, fk your dumb ass, racist post. I lived the majority of my life in the US between the Midwest and East Coast, I can definitely also generalize and say white American are racist based on my experience and observations alone. I hate people like you, yes, hate: who go somewhere new and act with a colonialist and orientalist approach and consider those of us who don’t fit their condescending and shitty view to be ‘too Western’ and soew swewping shitty generalizations about a culture and a language they barely understand. Go fk urself, for real.
Also, what NT did was petty and wrong but it wasn’t racially motivated, Jessica.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:16
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Pretty sure the last 4 or 5 posts were an attempt to get the thread locked.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:14
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Dude- we’re on page 20 something and you need someone to break down “person of color” for you,
You mean “colored person”?! Didn’t that term fall out of usage years ago?
This is what I don’t get. Colored person not ok, person of color perfectly fine.
It’s for the same reason gypsy isn’t okay but Romani is. One is a dimunitive descriptor formed by outsiders. The other isn’t.
But it’s a very slight variation of the same word. That’s what I don’t get. Color vs colored. You’d at least think they’d take color out of it. Gypsy and Romani are to completely different words.
Otherwise, I see your point.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:12
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Dude- we’re on page 20 something and you need someone to break down “person of color” for you,
You mean “colored person”?! Didn’t that term fall out of usage years ago?
This is what I don’t get. Colored person not ok, person of color perfectly fine.
I can't use niggardly either. Go figure.
Nope and I can’t use cracker. Even white trash makes people mad. Too bad.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:11
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Dude- we’re on page 20 something and you need someone to break down “person of color” for you,
You mean “colored person”?! Didn’t that term fall out of usage years ago?
This is what I don’t get. Colored person not ok, person of color perfectly fine.
It’s for the same reason gypsy isn’t okay but Romani is. One is a dimunitive descriptor formed by outsiders. The other isn’t.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:03
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Dude- we’re on page 20 something and you need someone to break down “person of color” for you,
You mean “colored person”?! Didn’t that term fall out of usage years ago?
This is what I don’t get. Colored person not ok, person of color perfectly fine.
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:00
Subject: Re:Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Aren’t there cameras on many trains anyway?
Anonymous
05/12/2019 19:00
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Dude- we’re on page 20 something and you need someone to break down “person of color” for you,
You mean “colored person”?! Didn’t that term fall out of usage years ago?
Anonymous
05/12/2019 18:50
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Dude- we’re on page 20 something and you need someone to break down “person of color” for you,
Anonymous
05/12/2019 18:47
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I’m glad this happened. A snitch tried to get someone’s job because the woman told her to worry about herself, which she should. This author identifies as a POC when it benefits her but then attacks a black woman by dragging in her boss on Twitter. She got the smoke she wanted m!
So you think identifying as a POC means never criticizing anyone darker than snow?
If black solidarity existed, there would be no black on black crime so let's stop telling this particular fairy tale.
What’s a “POC”? Is it pronounce “pock”? Plural pronounced “pox”!
Anonymous
05/12/2019 18:46
Subject: Author's book publication cancelled after a tweet reporting on a WMATA employee eating on the metro
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MYOB is just another variation of Don’t Snitch.
There is a reason some communities are nice, and don’t experience much crime.
Sure, what’s the harm using the public park for your family reunion? It’s not a big deal. It’s not hurting anyone.
Why does it matter if a couple of kids use the pool without passes? It doesn’t really matter.
So what if someone eats last night’s lasagne on the metro? It’s not really my concern.
But that’s not true.
We have rules and guidelines for a reason. It’s never just one person. If every Weekend has people partying and trashing the park, it ruins the park for all. If the pool is overrun with unsupervised kids, it ruins the pool for everyone. If everyone eats on the train, it ruins the train for everyone.
Communities with the mantra “worry about yourself” tend to not be the places posters coo over on the real estate forum.
Yes. In time, such communities wind up like West Baltimore.
You mean ALL of Baltimore right?