Anonymous
04/08/2019 23:31
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.
It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.
Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.
I see I have hit a nerve. Honest conversations aren't harmful. Sometimes a player drops back, and finds joy in seeing more time on the field. Sometimes a player starts training beyond the club practices and gets better. Many things can happen, but to defend 6+ years watching other kids play, why?
Please keep saying the same thing over and over.
I understand how inflates you sense of self worth.
I dont know why you think its been 6 years.
But please fepeat your ideas again.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 23:22
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.
It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.
Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.
I see I have hit a nerve. Honest conversations aren't harmful. Sometimes a player drops back, and finds joy in seeing more time on the field. Sometimes a player starts training beyond the club practices and gets better. Many things can happen, but to defend 6+ years watching other kids play, why?
SpiritVAParent
04/08/2019 23:16
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.
It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.
Although some might find it hard to believe, this is true at WSVA as well. All the local clubs are struggling to fill the roster behind their 4-6-9-11 best players, and the unfortunate truth of the local area landscape is that for girls from 04 down to probably 08 or 09, the talent dilution across all the DA/ECNL clubs will continue to be a challenge until there is some consolidation and a true pyramid. That talent dilution will keep the DC metro area from having nationally competitive teams—the teams that are most competitive right now, the older FCV and Mclean teams, are teams that were established before the DA/ECNL wars began 2 years ago and have remained intact. 03 gets wobbly and 04/05 are a mess, with the talent spread at every DA/ECNL club very uneven. If all of those girls at the high end of the talent pool who are spread across 7 clubs in NOVA were naturally funneled into two clubs, the way it was with FCV and Mclean just 3 years ago, the landscape would be very different and these boards might even be less vitriolic. We’d have a club or two that looked more like Richmond United and had similar successes, for example, even in the younger age groups.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 23:14
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not
seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.
It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.
Clearly, you know whats best for everybody.
We are lucky to have you.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:59
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.
It's possible. Some may feel bad, and some don't care. The parents though should have a real conversation with their DDs instead of pretending that is a form of success.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:20
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
My daughter plays for FCV, there are kids on her team that should not be playing at that level, and I feel bad for the coach and the other players when he has to play those kids. i would imagine it is the same at BRYC and McLean, I am sure all of the coaches at those clubs would rather not carry players that can't contribute at the level they play at. They are probably told how many players they have to take.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:12
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
And development needs game experience. At some point, your child will start to get old enough to realize they spent their youth "preparing" to play and "developing" to get better but never got to spend enough quality time actually on the field. Let's be clear. If by high school, your kid is at BRYC (or FCV or anywhere) and not seeing time, That is unlikely to change at whatever current club with whatever current team.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:03
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Exactly. Everyone knows they are lying but hopes their DD will be the one to break through the bubble. It won't happen. That girl will always be the sub 99 times out of 100.
I don't think you need to necessarily drop in the level she plays at. Maybe or maybe not. Just go to a club that wants her.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:02
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Players develop in training do they not? You seem like you lack any sort of soccer knowledge , lucky BRYC having to deal with you, I'm sure you would fit in at WSVA with our crazies
Anonymous
04/08/2019 22:00
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LB watching BRYC NCSL team, the team he coached, he also sat with Braddock staff when BRYC played VDA last week.
Nobody is leaving bryc for spirit unless they do not a bryc offer.
This is what I never get about decision making. If you are a starter or at least first sub in for BRYC, FCV, anywhere, sure, I get it, but if you are riding the pine, why stay? And I have honestly seen overlooked players - I mean like pros - move teams and take off.
Is watching other people's kids play that much fun for all these people? I pay and make the time commitment to see my kid play. Yeah, great when we do well, but if she's not playing, I have no reason to be there.
Because when you’re training 3 or 4 times a week with higher level players, you develop faster. Not that hard of a concept to grasp. But for people that are focused only games and results, you probably don’t get it.
.thanks for all the information.
Uou clearly have this down.
I bet you know where every panera in the dmv is.
The person obviously wasn't advocating results if their main point was that it is better to start and play significant minutes at Spirit than it is to train yet watch games at FCV or BRYC for example.
If you are not seriously pushing for minutes then what is the point? It is a game meant to be played not watched. If you can't get regular time, in spite of all the quality training then what is the point?
And one of the the BRYC coaches has no problems leaving people on the bench the whole game.
But hey its all about developing the girls and doing what's best for them, right?
If you're kid does not play in meaningful matches she probably is not on the right team, should consider leaving... my daughter was at McLean and it was the same. My daughter now plays at a non ECNL team and is having fun.
I don't disagree entirely; however, when the coach takes a player for a team, he's making a commitment to that player, just like the player is making a commitment to the coach and team for year.
It's not fair for either party to cut bait during the season.
Who said cut bait during the season? We are in early spring season and tryouts are also starting. If the current situation is not good for the player it makes sense to take a look at other teams and try and find a better fit.
But finding the better fit starts with being honest with yourself about your DD. Perhaps if she isn't playing much on her current team it is more about position depth or team needs than it has to do with the players actual ability. If she is behind a YNT candidate, for example, then only a injury is gonna get her in the starting lineup regularly.
Some kids might also be overachieving in regards to league choice. Instead of DA or ECNL, NPL might be a better fit.
Regardless, you need to take inventory of the situation and do what is best. And frankly, regardless of seemingly better options it might not matter because she has friends on her current team and a role she is comfortable with.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 21:54
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
But you to the meetings and they tell gou its all about development of the players.
I guess its accepted that they lie to the parents.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 21:50
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
It was the Same at McLean. It's not on the coaches, these are the top clubs in our area, they are the standard in NV. They are expected to win, if you do not want you're child in that environment, take you're kid somewhere a little less competitive where they will play and enjoy the experience. As a parent you chose to put them in that highly competitive environment
Anonymous
04/08/2019 21:37
Subject: YNT Identification Center
They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 21:37
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LB watching BRYC NCSL team, the team he coached, he also sat with Braddock staff when BRYC played VDA last week.
Nobody is leaving bryc for spirit unless they do not a bryc offer.
This is what I never get about decision making. If you are a starter or at least first sub in for BRYC, FCV, anywhere, sure, I get it, but if you are riding the pine, why stay? And I have honestly seen overlooked players - I mean like pros - move teams and take off.
Is watching other people's kids play that much fun for all these people? I pay and make the time commitment to see my kid play. Yeah, great when we do well, but if she's not playing, I have no reason to be there.
Because when you’re training 3 or 4 times a week with higher level players, you develop faster. Not that hard of a concept to grasp. But for people that are focused only games and results, you probably don’t get it.
The person obviously wasn't advocating results if their main point was that it is better to start and play significant minutes at Spirit than it is to train yet watch games at FCV or BRYC for example.
If you are not seriously pushing for minutes then what is the point? It is a game meant to be played not watched. If you can't get regular time, in spite of all the quality training then what is the point?
And one of the the BRYC coaches has no problems leaving people on the bench the whole game.
But hey its all about developing the girls and doing what's best for them, right?
Why does this coach continue to get away with his tactics. The parents need to grow a pair or get your kid out.
They won't. I don't understand why, but it's the same at FCV.
Anonymous
04/08/2019 21:33
Subject: YNT Identification Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LB watching BRYC NCSL team, the team he coached, he also sat with Braddock staff when BRYC played VDA last week.
Nobody is leaving bryc for spirit unless they do not a bryc offer.
This is what I never get about decision making. If you are a starter or at least first sub in for BRYC, FCV, anywhere, sure, I get it, but if you are riding the pine, why stay? And I have honestly seen overlooked players - I mean like pros - move teams and take off.
Is watching other people's kids play that much fun for all these people? I pay and make the time commitment to see my kid play. Yeah, great when we do well, but if she's not playing, I have no reason to be there.
Because when you’re training 3 or 4 times a week with higher level players, you develop faster. Not that hard of a concept to grasp. But for people that are focused only games and results, you probably don’t get it.
The person obviously wasn't advocating results if their main point was that it is better to start and play significant minutes at Spirit than it is to train yet watch games at FCV or BRYC for example.
If you are not seriously pushing for minutes then what is the point? It is a game meant to be played not watched. If you can't get regular time, in spite of all the quality training then what is the point?
And one of the the BRYC coaches has no problems leaving people on the bench the whole game.
But hey its all about developing the girls and doing what's best for them, right?
Why does this coach continue to get away with his tactics. The parents need to grow a pair or get your kid out.