Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 08:12     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
It is a really bad look for FCPS when the center school general ed classes are largely URM and the center classes are all white and Asian kids.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 07:44     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Black/Latino kids have been rejected with high scores this year though.

You are correct; but, returning to an old post, were they rejected at schools or centers where the overarching population is already pretty smart? Or were they rejected at Title I schools, or schools were the scores are "average," or where the majority population is URM. I think FCPS feels a need to fill center seats at some schools, to show diversity.


One of the PPs from above. Our base school has no LLIV or center and is 40+
FRMS and about equally URM. They definitely rejected a lot of URM students this year, as well as others. The center school is hugely unbalanced in terms of this and our base is the biggest feeder, by far.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 23:22     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:Black/Latino kids have been rejected with high scores this year though.

You are correct; but, returning to an old post, were they rejected at schools or centers where the overarching population is already pretty smart? Or were they rejected at Title I schools, or schools were the scores are "average," or where the majority population is URM. I think FCPS feels a need to fill center seats at some schools, to show diversity.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 23:15     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone has a problem with FCPS going prospecting for hidden gold. People just don’t get why they are rejecting the gold in plain sight.


“Gold in plain sight.”

Good one. Funniest thing I’ve read in a while.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 23:15     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
Black/Latino kids have been rejected with high scores this year though.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 23:11     Subject: Re:FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:Unless it's to even the percentages across demographics.

Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 23:08     Subject: Re:FCPS potential changes to AAP
Unless it's to even the percentages across demographics.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 22:57     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
I don’t think anyone has a problem with FCPS going prospecting for hidden gold. People just don’t get why they are rejecting the gold in plain sight.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 22:55     Subject: Re:FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:I think the "Final Thoughts" explains a lot this year.

"The identification of advanced academic potential must be grounded in an expanded understanding of intelligence that embraces diverse cultural, ethnic, and linguistic manifestations. A narrow definition of intelligence that is measured by how well children perform on assessments that require a knowledge of words and numbers learned in school precludes from participation in gifted programs certain populations of students who have not had the opportunity to attain this knowledge before coming to school. As we move from an understanding of intelligence as innate ability grounded in a cultural and social context tied to Western, affluent populations to an understanding of intelligence as a student’s evolving potential that is contextually-based and is nurtured through experience, we provide numerous possibilities for understanding giftedness as developing potential in a much broader range of students."


As an AAP teacher, the bold part above is how the county "promotes" looking beyond test scores for admission, especially for URM. Does the student show the potential to be successful in AAP?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 22:30     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
The cogat average is a much better approximate for an iq score. The nnat only tests spacial intelligence.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 22:30     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
I think the point is that intelligence has less to do with what kids know and more to do with what they have 5he capability to learn and do.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 22:26     Subject: Re:FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:I thought NNAT score was basically an IQ estimate or close proxy? So that's how you'd know.

The Naglieri is only one measure of intelligence and does not equate to an IQ test because it does not have a verbal component. The Naglieri has been criticized for having a wide range of score variability. That means, compared to other standardized tests, the results may not be a completely accurate portrait of a child's intelligence.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 21:00     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
Anonymous wrote:Maybe they took more Young Scholars and fewer white/Asian 99th percentile kids?


I don't know...there are at least a couple of us here with Black/ Latino children who were in-pool or very close and not selected this year. Granted, my kids' school does not have YS, but still.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 20:43     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
Maybe they took more Young Scholars and fewer white/Asian 99th percentile kids?
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2019 20:41     Subject: FCPS potential changes to AAP
It seems like they are moving away from recognizing intelligence as measured by.....their own metrics of teacher ratings, report cards, test scores, and work samples.

Truly bizarre.