Anonymous
Post 04/25/2019 07:57     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

The Key site is very well positioned, geographically, to be a neighborhood school. I can’t imagine that immersion will get to stay there.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2019 07:49     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

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Anonymous wrote:I know they've been all-consumed with the budget, but after the brouhaha that was "paused" in January, I'm surprised they're still just sitting on this with zero update.


Why is there no movement at all? I thought something is happening in June??



June is the K-12 pathways, which will presumably inform what options/programs APS will offer and/or expand. That has to happen before they decide if any programs/schools move.


So will they likely announce option school locations with pathways?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 21:25     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know they've been all-consumed with the budget, but after the brouhaha that was "paused" in January, I'm surprised they're still just sitting on this with zero update.


Why is there no movement at all? I thought something is happening in June??



June is the K-12 pathways, which will presumably inform what options/programs APS will offer and/or expand. That has to happen before they decide if any programs/schools move.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 18:54     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:I know they've been all-consumed with the budget, but after the brouhaha that was "paused" in January, I'm surprised they're still just sitting on this with zero update.


Why is there no movement at all? I thought something is happening in June??
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 18:27     Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

I know they've been all-consumed with the budget, but after the brouhaha that was "paused" in January, I'm surprised they're still just sitting on this with zero update.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 18:26     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

It’ll be another half-assed rush job with crap data and zero transparency and staff will throw up their hands and claim they’re still learning and feign confusion about why nobody trusts them to do the right thing.

Business as usual.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 18:17     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

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Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.


They need to make decision on where schools (swap, move immersion, whatever) will be otherwise there will be too many pieces in play and too many opposing parties. Decide on school sites firm. Then start working boundaries with those known schools.

+1


Will APS wait that long to announce where option schools will be? That sucks for the families that will lose their neighborhood schools.


Of course they need (or really should) make those decisions this year so that they have a full year to devote to the new boundaries but c'mon, this is APS. They will screw around, make promises about deadlines, etc. and then wait until the last minute to come up with some nonsensical plan and then change their minds six more times after the uproar from moving/getting rid of the option schools.


00 year - Sep 2021 - Reed Opens
-1 year - Sep 2020 - Finalize boundaries (prob Dec)
-2 year - Sep 2019 - Finalize option/neighborhood/swap

So without any public debate even stated on viable option plans, we are only 5-7 months from when we should have a FINALIZED DECISION
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 18:09     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

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Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.


They need to make decision on where schools (swap, move immersion, whatever) will be otherwise there will be too many pieces in play and too many opposing parties. Decide on school sites firm. Then start working boundaries with those known schools.

+1


Will APS wait that long to announce where option schools will be? That sucks for the families that will lose their neighborhood schools.


Of course they need (or really should) make those decisions this year so that they have a full year to devote to the new boundaries but c'mon, this is APS. They will screw around, make promises about deadlines, etc. and then wait until the last minute to come up with some nonsensical plan and then change their minds six more times after the uproar from moving/getting rid of the option schools.


I guess it’s too much to expect them to shape up after being fully funded by the county board.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 18:01     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.


They need to make decision on where schools (swap, move immersion, whatever) will be otherwise there will be too many pieces in play and too many opposing parties. Decide on school sites firm. Then start working boundaries with those known schools.

+1


Will APS wait that long to announce where option schools will be? That sucks for the families that will lose their neighborhood schools.


Of course they need (or really should) make those decisions this year so that they have a full year to devote to the new boundaries but c'mon, this is APS. They will screw around, make promises about deadlines, etc. and then wait until the last minute to come up with some nonsensical plan and then change their minds six more times after the uproar from moving/getting rid of the option schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 17:42     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.


They need to make decision on where schools (swap, move immersion, whatever) will be otherwise there will be too many pieces in play and too many opposing parties. Decide on school sites firm. Then start working boundaries with those known schools.

+1


Will APS wait that long to announce where option schools will be? That sucks for the families that will lose their neighborhood schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 16:11     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.


They need to make decision on where schools (swap, move immersion, whatever) will be otherwise there will be too many pieces in play and too many opposing parties. Decide on school sites firm. Then start working boundaries with those known schools.

+1
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 15:19     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.


They need to make decision on where schools (swap, move immersion, whatever) will be otherwise there will be too many pieces in play and too many opposing parties. Decide on school sites firm. Then start working boundaries with those known schools.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 12:07     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?


DP, but Reed is supposed to open in 2021, so the boundaries are being redrawn for when that happens. I agree with the above poster that they will (wisely) try to push as late as possible so that they have the best possible numbers to work with. Projections of the number of kids is pretty shaky until that class actually enrolls in K, so if they can wait until fall 2020 to get as many real numbers as possible, they will.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2019 11:58     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The last we heard was decision was delayed till June? And the lawsuit trying to keep Immersion to Key?

We are looking for a home in Key zone, so is it likely we will still be going to ASFS site, and Key is not becoming neighborhood? That will be decided by June?

They haven’t brought it up since saying they would postpone until June. My feeling is they are waiting to see what comes out of the instructional pathways— it’s possible that some option schools will be eliminated (ats or campbell), or maybe they will grow programs enough to justify moving them to reed and reversing the decision to have reed be a neighborhood school. Who knows— your guess is as good as mine.
If someone figures out a solution to have two neighborhood school sites in the eastern part of the county without having to move immersion, then I think that key will stay where it is. Or if they revise their projections and decide that they don’t need two school sites there, then key will likely remain where it is. Who knows. Or even then they may decide to punt on it for several years so that there isn’t as big a neighborhood group that goes to key. Your guess is as good as mine.
If you are set on asfs, then you might want to look in the area right around key. But you need to be prepared that you might get moved to a new school in 2021. Even if asfs moves to key, it’s not going to be the same school population as it is now, and it’s boundaries will likely look strange if they make two neighborhood schools. The school at key will be more like long branch, or Taylor, or Barrett depending on what happens. Other parts of the county are more stable in terms of zoning, if that matters to you.


When are instructional pathways being decided? Will June be the time to decide if Swap or movement of Key/ASFS is in the cards?



Instructional pathways will be "decided" by June but where to put the option schools (whatever they may be) won't be decided until at least the fall-- but that date can change. Basically, they don't have to make any "final" decisions on school locations or boundaries until December 2020 when they have to come out with the K Orientation booklet for the SY2021-22. Previously, APS indicated that the decision about where to move the option schools would be made by this December (giving them a year to mess with the boundaries), but I suspect they will punt the option location decisions until next year too.


Why do you say Dec 2020 instead of Dec 2019?
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2019 11:52     Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .

15:18 is right. If you can walk to Discovery, you can walk to Williamsburg, on the same campus. And then depending on where you live, Yorktown is about half a mile from Wburg, so you might be able to walk there too. Plus you're not likely to be re-boundaried anytime soon from any of the 3.

Buying near Glebe/Hamm/Washington-Lee might work well too for those purposes.