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His choice of words are poor. Trump is an old man without much oratory skills. But do you honestly believe his fury was towards Coats? His gripe is towards the intelligence people who are investigating him.

And Senator Paul made another good point -- only the usual Neo-cons and anti-trump republicans are once again coming out against the president.

That's your defense? He's an old man without much oratory skills? So is my dear old uncle, but I wouldn't want him to be President! If your defense is literally that we shouldn't listen to him because he's just a whacky old man not in control of his words, than perhaps he shouldn't be President any more.

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And Senator Paul made another good point -- only the usual Neo-cons and anti-trump republicans are once again coming out against the president.

Like everything else Rand Paul says, that is wrong.

Republicans breaking with Trump over the Puton comments include:
Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Kevin McCarthy
John McCain
Lindsey Graham
Pat Toomey
Jeff Flake
Tim Scott
Ben Sasse
Bob Corker
James Lankford
Orrin Hatch
Trey Gowdy
Adam Kinzinger
Will Hurd
Bob Goodlatte
Justin Amash
Ed Royce
Liz Cheney
Peter Roskam
Elise Stefanik
Frank LoBiondo
Mitt Romney
Newt Gingrich

I give you that there are the usual neverTrumpers on that list, but there are plenty of TrumpHumpers as well.

Their statements were not strong enough. They will roll over and be back to Trumphumping tomorrow.

Words without deeds is dead. So, what are they going to do about it? Nothing, probably.

Trump is hostile to the IC because he is compromised, which is why he has bad mouthed them from day one.

What would be amusing is to see Trump declare victory over the USSR and just leave NATO as well (since the USSR disbanded 25+ years ago).

Oh, and tell the UK to join with us and leave NATO.

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Anonymous wrote:Rand Paul agrees with trump!

Rand Paul just announced a trip to Moscow. Maybe he is going to defect?

Rand Paul has a point.

The point being that he and his dad have taken Russian money for their "institute" and are as complicit at Trump?

So it's not a big deal because any country that has the opportunity to meddle does...

Wow!

The point is Trump has been under partisan investigation by Obama’s intelligence people for two years. Of course he didn’t trust Comey, Brennon, McCabe, Strozk. CNN kept equating those bad actors with current intelligence leadership such as Coats and Pompeo. Senator Paul never fell for CNN’s trap.

Tin foil foolishness.

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And Senator Paul made another good point -- only the usual Neo-cons and anti-trump republicans are once again coming out against the president.

Like everything else Rand Paul says, that is wrong.

Republicans breaking with Trump over the Puton comments include:
Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Kevin McCarthy
John McCain
Lindsey Graham
Pat Toomey
Jeff Flake
Tim Scott
Ben Sasse
Bob Corker
James Lankford
Orrin Hatch
Trey Gowdy
Adam Kinzinger
Will Hurd
Bob Goodlatte
Justin Amash
Ed Royce
Liz Cheney
Peter Roskam
Elise Stefanik
Frank LoBiondo
Mitt Romney
Newt Gingrich

I give you that there are the usual neverTrumpers on that list, but there are plenty of TrumpHumpers as well.

Their statements were not strong enough. They will roll over and be back to Trumphumping tomorrow.

And Senator Paul made another good point -- only the usual Neo-cons and anti-trump republicans are once again coming out against the president.

Like everything else Rand Paul says, that is wrong.

Republicans breaking with Trump over the Puton comments include:
Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Kevin McCarthy
John McCain
Lindsey Graham
Pat Toomey
Jeff Flake
Tim Scott
Ben Sasse
Bob Corker
James Lankford
Orrin Hatch
Trey Gowdy
Adam Kinzinger
Will Hurd
Bob Goodlatte
Justin Amash
Ed Royce
Liz Cheney
Peter Roskam
Elise Stefanik
Frank LoBiondo
Mitt Romney
Newt Gingrich

I give you that there are the usual neverTrumpers on that list, but there are plenty of TrumpHumpers as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Rand Paul agrees with trump!

Rand Paul just announced a trip to Moscow. Maybe he is going to defect?

Rand Paul has a point.

The point being that he and his dad have taken Russian money for their "institute" and are as complicit at Trump?

So it's not a big deal because any country that has the opportunity to meddle does...

Wow!

The point is Trump has been under partisan investigation by Obama’s intelligence people for two years. Of course he didn’t trust Comey, Brennon, McCabe, Strozk. CNN kept equating those bad actors with current intelligence leadership such as Coats and Pompeo. Senator Paul never fell for CNN’s trap.

Sounds like you're paying as much attention to Coats as Trump is.

Coats: "the warning warning lights are blinking red"

His choice of words are poor. Trump is an old man without much oratory skills. But do you honestly believe his fury was towards Coats? His gripe is towards the intelligence people who are investigating him.

And Senator Paul made another good point -- only the usual Neo-cons and anti-trump republicans are once again coming out against the president.

The New York Times compiled some GOP responses to Trump's meetings yesterday...looks like some are attempting to find their spine.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/16/us/politics/republicans-trump-putin-russia-reaction.html
Senator Bob Corker Tenn.
I think he [Putin] gained a tremendous amount. Here he's been ostracized on the world stage...It was almost an approval, if you will, a public approval by the greatest nation on earth towards him...I'd guess he's having caviar right now. I think this was a very good day for President Putin.

Senator Jeff Flake Ariz.
I never thought I would see the day when our American President would stand on the stage with the Russian President and place blame on the United States for Russian aggression. This is shameful.

Senator Susan Collins Me.
The President’s statements today in Helsinki demonstrate his continued refusal to accept the unanimous conclusions of U.S. intelligence leaders and the bipartisan findings of the Senate Intelligence Committee. This position is untenable and at odds with the forceful response this moment demands.

Senator Lindsey Graham S.C.
If it were me, I’d check the soccer ball for listening devices and never allow it in the White House.


Senator Charles E. Grassley Iowa

President Trump missed an opportunity to publicly press President Putin on whether he would agree to extradite the defendants to the United States to answer the allegations in court.


Senator John McCain Ariz.

No prior president has ever abased himself more abjectly before a tyrant.

When I grew up people who picked on friends/ nice guys but covered in front of a real threat were called punks. Nice to see Trump prove what we knew all along. I guess he learned that in the reform school he attended.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Trump is compromised. I think he identifies with Putin’s worldview. Look at Trump’s actions; they are those of an autocrat, a strongman. He has no interest in democratic norms, or the agencies that support and defend these norms. He and his administration have been undermining our government from day one. So why not team up with Putin? They want the same things.

So clearly you’re blind to reality. Trump is a Traitor period.

I agree he is a traitor; I just don’t think there is a pee tape or whatever.

There may not be a pee tape, but there is something, probably financial related.

NP. Putin may have some leverage over Trump (financial) but I can also see Trump just having a similar worldview and wanting to buddy up with Putin over Macron/Merkel.

None of this will end well though. Regardless of underlying motivations.

America is essentially in a free fall. The idea that our president can undermine our efforts to maintain a somewhat fair election process in favor of a country like Russia who is against those ideals, on the international stage is unprecedented. And the Republican Party which controls our federal legislative and judiciary bodies have no intention of pursuing this.

Disgusting. A bunch of feckless cowards that history will judge accordingly.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Trump is compromised. I think he identifies with Putin’s worldview. Look at Trump’s actions; they are those of an autocrat, a strongman. He has no interest in democratic norms, or the agencies that support and defend these norms. He and his administration have been undermining our government from day one. So why not team up with Putin? They want the same things.

So clearly you’re blind to reality. Trump is a Traitor period.

I agree he is a traitor; I just don’t think there is a pee tape or whatever.

There may not be a pee tape, but there is something, probably financial related.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Trump is compromised. I think he identifies with Putin’s worldview. Look at Trump’s actions; they are those of an autocrat, a strongman. He has no interest in democratic norms, or the agencies that support and defend these norms. He and his administration have been undermining our government from day one. So why not team up with Putin? They want the same things.

So clearly you’re blind to reality. Trump is a Traitor period.

I agree he is a traitor; I just don’t think there is a pee tape or whatever.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone thinks that to betray America yesterday as he did, there must be a figurative gun to his head. But what if his behavior is simply the consequence of his autocratic impulses? That’s worse really.

Treason is treason.