Anonymous
05/11/2018 10:33
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:re: EOTR demand. I just looked up Houston elementary. It is hard to argue that there is unmet demand from English or Spanish speakers for immersion EOTR based on this school's results.
Spanish dominant:
PK3: 3 applications submitted, 5 seats offered, 1 match, no waitlist
PK4: 1 application submitted, 0 seats offered, 0 match, no waitlist
K: 0 applications submitted
English dominant:
PK3: 53 applications submitted, 24 seats offered, 12 match, no waitlist
PK4: 6 applications submitted, 3 seats offered, no waitlist
K: 20 applications submitted, 0 seats offered, 12 on waitlist
Ok, but what about the context? This is the first year of Spanish and it is only for three grades, so there aren't siblings already enrolled. Sometimes things take a little while to get going and develop a track record. And Houston's test scores overall are modest, which makes it less appealing to people but does not mean they don't want Spanish.
If you look at Stokes East End you will see much more interest.
Anonymous
05/11/2018 10:25
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
re: EOTR demand. I just looked up Houston elementary. It is hard to argue that there is unmet demand from English or Spanish speakers for immersion EOTR based on this school's results.
Spanish dominant:
PK3: 3 applications submitted, 5 seats offered, 1 match, no waitlist
PK4: 1 application submitted, 0 seats offered, 0 match, no waitlist
K: 0 applications submitted
English dominant:
PK3: 53 applications submitted, 24 seats offered, 12 match, no waitlist
PK4: 6 applications submitted, 3 seats offered, no waitlist
K: 20 applications submitted, 0 seats offered, 12 on waitlist
Spanish dominant:
PK3: 3 applications submitted, 5 seats offered, 1 match, no waitlist
PK4: 1 application submitted, 0 seats offered, 0 match, no waitlist
K: 0 applications submitted
English dominant:
PK3: 53 applications submitted, 24 seats offered, 12 match, no waitlist
PK4: 6 applications submitted, 3 seats offered, no waitlist
K: 20 applications submitted, 0 seats offered, 12 on waitlist
Anonymous
05/11/2018 09:53
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Where are the stats that most of the demand is west of the river? There are groups over here advocating for an immersion program in ward 8. Do you think the demand is wotr because they have the most programs? Have you gone out seeking the eotr demand?
Anonymous
05/11/2018 09:24
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Are you seriously saying that having one program east of the river isn’t lacking? ONE PROGRAM. From where I live in ward 8, that is over a 30 minute drive or over an hour and a half on public transit.
Quoting myself because I really want PP to come back and defend their response that Houston elementary and stokes ee are immersion programs and how that's good enough for two large wards.
NP— PP just named a language immersion school EOTR, but didn’t say anything about that being “good enough.” Not sure what you want them to defend.
You're right. Maybe I did some mental gymnastics to get there but the response of the name of one dcps elementary school to my "This should high light the lack of language immersion EOTR" caught me off guard.
1) I am educated enough to know Houston elementary has language immersion and educated enough to know it's on this side of the river. However, naming one school an hour and 30 minutes public transit ride away shouldn't be a solution. Especially compared to the accessibility of WOTR.
2) Naming one school EOTR to my comment, to me, is still highlighting the lack of programs. Maybe PP didn't mean it that way but it came across as "but you have Houston elementary" and I would challenge anyone saying that's enough.
My apologies if I was out of line but I have a feeling that's what they meant. They are welcome to come back and say that isn't how they meant it though.
Not to be controversial but isn't most of the demand for bilingual Spanish education coming from WOTR? Most native speakers definitely live on that side and I'm sure many of them are the ones being shut out. Not that they're up here typing about it in English on DCUM. But it's an issue.
Anonymous
05/11/2018 07:23
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Are you seriously saying that having one program east of the river isn’t lacking? ONE PROGRAM. From where I live in ward 8, that is over a 30 minute drive or over an hour and a half on public transit.
Quoting myself because I really want PP to come back and defend their response that Houston elementary and stokes ee are immersion programs and how that's good enough for two large wards.
NP— PP just named a language immersion school EOTR, but didn’t say anything about that being “good enough.” Not sure what you want them to defend.
You're right. Maybe I did some mental gymnastics to get there but the response of the name of one dcps elementary school to my "This should high light the lack of language immersion EOTR" caught me off guard.
1) I am educated enough to know Houston elementary has language immersion and educated enough to know it's on this side of the river. However, naming one school an hour and 30 minutes public transit ride away shouldn't be a solution. Especially compared to the accessibility of WOTR.
2) Naming one school EOTR to my comment, to me, is still highlighting the lack of programs. Maybe PP didn't mean it that way but it came across as "but you have Houston elementary" and I would challenge anyone saying that's enough.
My apologies if I was out of line but I have a feeling that's what they meant. They are welcome to come back and say that isn't how they meant it though.
Anonymous
05/11/2018 07:07
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Are you seriously saying that having one program east of the river isn’t lacking? ONE PROGRAM. From where I live in ward 8, that is over a 30 minute drive or over an hour and a half on public transit.
Quoting myself because I really want PP to come back and defend their response that Houston elementary and stokes ee are immersion programs and how that's good enough for two large wards.
NP— PP just named a language immersion school EOTR, but didn’t say anything about that being “good enough.” Not sure what you want them to defend.
Anonymous
05/11/2018 06:45
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Are you seriously saying that having one program east of the river isn’t lacking? ONE PROGRAM. From where I live in ward 8, that is over a 30 minute drive or over an hour and a half on public transit.
Quoting myself because I really want PP to come back and defend their response that Houston elementary and stokes ee are immersion programs and how that's good enough for two large wards.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 10:39
Subject: Re:Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PK4 TR 4th #18. What does Swami think?
Original number or current number? I know the family with the #2 spot got called immediately on May 2nd and declined, so the list definitely is moving some.
Current - we started at 22.
You should move up a spot today. I just removed our name from the PK4 TR 4th list. Sticking with TRY.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 08:57
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Are you seriously saying that having one program east of the river isn’t lacking? ONE PROGRAM. From where I live in ward 8, that is over a 30 minute drive or over an hour and a half on public transit.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 08:36
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Right, offering Spanish only in PK3, PK4, and K. One DCPS school, and the new Stokes which is also PK3, PK4, and K, for two entire wards.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 08:31
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Houston Elementary is a DCPS immersion school EOTR.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 08:13
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
This should highlight the lack of language immersion EOTR.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 07:51
Subject: Re:Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:K
DC Bilingual #19
Stokes Brookland Spanish #27
Matched at Stokes EE Spanish.
Swami says find a carpool, that commute is brutal.
Sounds like we need to carpool together!
Swami do you say the same for my numbers?
Stokes BK Spanish - 30
Stokes BK French - 18
ITS - 16
Matched Stokes EE Spanish
I wonder how Swami knows the commute is brutal without knowing where OP lives.
Isn't it along a major commuter route? Unless you live in Anacostia how can the commute not be brutal? (With the possible exception of the East end of the expanded definition of Capitol Hill)
God forbid! Anacostia?!?!?! People actually live EOTR? Shocker?!?!?!
Also, and I thought this was obvious... EOTR =/= Anacostia. Anacostia is kind of far from Stokes EE. Many other neighborhoods, both EOTR and WOTR, are much closer.
Anonymous
05/10/2018 07:31
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
And also, I have posted on here about schools in ward 8. So maybe you read over them without processing the information but it has been shared.
Really, you should probably try to get "to know" schools on this side of the river. I "know" schools on that side of the river because they are part of my city. So maybe educate yourself? Or are you okay with staying uneducated on them because we are EOTR and don't matter?
Really, you should probably try to get "to know" schools on this side of the river. I "know" schools on that side of the river because they are part of my city. So maybe educate yourself? Or are you okay with staying uneducated on them because we are EOTR and don't matter?
Anonymous
05/10/2018 07:27
Subject: Swami Waitlist Predictions
Anonymous wrote:If EOTR were well-represented on DCUM then we'd know some of the schools by name. But we don't. Because nobody on DCUM has heard of anything EOTR except for the scandal schools like Ballou. So quit with the "Oh you're so elitist for assuming we're all WOTR" when in fact we're pretty much all WOTR.
Again. Nobody on this board knows of any schools EOTR. So what.
Excuse me? I live EOTR and post here a lot. I know a lot about the schools over here in ward 8.