Anonymous
12/18/2017 17:34
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
what do you want them to do?
make an accelerated high school program with IB? done. now some white/high SES people say they won't try it because the kids there don't score high enough on IB exams (though that's probably not the sole reason)
group all the richest/highest performing elementary schools into a single middle school? not going to happen. It would suck for the other middle schools on the hill, it makes no geographic sense, for a million other reasons, not going to happen.
solve generational poverty? good luck with that. too big an issue for the schools to handle themselves.
Here’s just one example of what could be done: have advanced classes at Watkins starting in 3rd grade. This is not a novel idea. Virginia does it. And it would potentially stop people from leaving before 3rd grade when the achievement gap problems start to get really hard for one teacher with kids several grade levels apart to effectively manage. But will DCPS do that? Nope. Why? Optics.
As long as you’re going to be making decisions based on how things look politically instead of what’s best for ALL children in the classroom, I’m not going to send my kid to your school.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 17:29
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
+1000. Can't stand name-calling snowflake basher guy. He stalks these Hill threads relentlesly like the loser he is. What a racist, immature asshole.
Signed. AA Parent Living IB for the Cluster with No Short, Medium or Long-term Plans to Enroll Elementary School-Age Offspring at Watkins or SH, or Move to Arlington Either
not PP you're referring to but you won't be missed
Actually, she will be missed. Committed, involved parents are a precious commodity that can make a big difference to a school. I’m another IB-for-Watkins parent who sends her children to a charter and I really wish that I didn’t feel like that was the better choice. I would love to walk my children to our neighborhood school instead of driving them across the city to a charter. But Watkins makes it very hard for parents to make the choice to turn down solid options and enroll there.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:45
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
+1000. Can't stand name-calling snowflake basher guy. He stalks these Hill threads relentlesly like the loser he is. What a racist, immature asshole.
Signed. AA Parent Living IB for the Cluster with No Short, Medium or Long-term Plans to Enroll Elementary School-Age Offspring at Watkins or SH, or Move to Arlington Either
Fine, you're out. Why are you even reading/posting here?
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:43
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
Of course they have responsibility. And if you'd like to come here and post something USEFUL and specific about how decisions have been made, or could be made, DCPS policies at fault or that should change, then that's good. What I object to is the ridiculous diversions these threads always fall apart into.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:42
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
what do you want them to do?
make an accelerated high school program with IB? done. now some white/high SES people say they won't try it because the kids there don't score high enough on IB exams (though that's probably not the sole reason)
group all the richest/highest performing elementary schools into a single middle school? not going to happen. It would suck for the other middle schools on the hill, it makes no geographic sense, for a million other reasons, not going to happen.
solve generational poverty? good luck with that. too big an issue for the schools to handle themselves.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:37
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
+1000. Can't stand name-calling snowflake basher guy. He stalks these Hill threads relentlesly like the loser he is. What a racist, immature asshole.
Signed. AA Parent Living IB for the Cluster with No Short, Medium or Long-term Plans to Enroll Elementary School-Age Offspring at Watkins or SH, or Move to Arlington Either
not PP you're referring to but you won't be missed
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:28
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
+1000. Can't stand name-calling snowflake basher guy. He stalks these Hill threads relentlesly like the loser he is. What a racist, immature asshole.
Signed. AA Parent Living IB for the Cluster with No Short, Medium or Long-term Plans to Enroll Elementary School-Age Offspring at Watkins or SH, or Move to Arlington Either
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:09
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
a lot of families are doing just that. I suspect it's the charter boosters who feel obliged to bash anything and everything about SH, as well as Eliot Hine and Jefferson. It helps them rationalize their weak commitment to true public education.
My commitment is foremost to my child. My child is more than a particular race, SES, and set of PARCC scores. Given my knowledge of my child and their strengths and weaknesses, it's my job as a parent to find the best fit for them as an individual student. For my older kid, this was a charter. For my younger kid, I'll re-evaluate when the time comes. SH isn't really on the table though, because I'm out of bound.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 16:00
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
a lot of families are doing just that. I suspect it's the charter boosters who feel obliged to bash anything and everything about SH, as well as Eliot Hine and Jefferson. It helps them rationalize their weak commitment to true public education.
As a person who supports PUBLIC charter schools, I do so because I think it cruel and immoral to force families who have no means to move or afford private to endure the morass of public neighborhood schools that are offered to them. The choice of a charter school is often a life-changing option for them. If you would look beyond Stuart Hobson and Capitol Hill you might see that.
you support so called public schools. The only charters mentioned here are BASIS and Latin. No DC Prep? No KIPP? Gee, I wonder what looks different about those schools?
Anonymous
12/18/2017 15:48
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
a lot of families are doing just that. I suspect it's the charter boosters who feel obliged to bash anything and everything about SH, as well as Eliot Hine and Jefferson. It helps them rationalize their weak commitment to true public education.
As a person who supports PUBLIC charter schools, I do so because I think it cruel and immoral to force families who have no means to move or afford private to endure the morass of public neighborhood schools that are offered to them. The choice of a charter school is often a life-changing option for them. If you would look beyond Stuart Hobson and Capitol Hill you might see that.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 15:43
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Do the professional educators, planners, administrators at DCPS have NO responsibility here at all? Are they completely let off the hook? See, your plan for school improvement is unrealistic because we don't have to put up with dysfunction--people can live in their homes on the Hill and choose to go private, choose to home school or choose to go charter. That's our right. DCPS ( and you ) would like to pretend that is not so. It is also our prerogative to discuss Stuart Hobson as much as we'd like. Also our right. That's reality. You ( and DCPS ) would do well to live in reality rather than thrown silly names at people and tell them to move.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 10:04
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
a lot of families are doing just that. I suspect it's the charter boosters who feel obliged to bash anything and everything about SH, as well as Eliot Hine and Jefferson. It helps them rationalize their weak commitment to true public education.
Basis and Latin aren't neighborhood schools either. Much of the criticism of SH and its feeders centers around lack of IB buy in. That's a weak argument that Hill families want an IB schools that works for them but barring that the citywide charter across town is just fine.
Some families at our IB school relentless boost charters to other parents and constantly neg on the Hill schools, often exaggerating strengths or ignoring weaknesses ('oh BASIS is great for kids with IEPs' or 'Latin has no disciplinary issues').
Anonymous
12/18/2017 09:58
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
a lot of families are doing just that. I suspect it's the charter boosters who feel obliged to bash anything and everything about SH, as well as Eliot Hine and Jefferson. It helps them rationalize their weak commitment to true public education.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 09:49
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.
Until Hill parents stop acting ridiculously entitled, selfish, and clueless, they will all end this way. I for one wish we could just ban discussion of Stuart Hobson and Watkins on here. Everyone who thinks it is doom for their snowflake - move to Arlington. Everyone who actually wants to give it a go - get to work.
Anonymous
12/18/2017 09:46
Subject: Re:Can anyone tell me the story of Stuart-Hobson?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most depressing SH thread either, nearly 300 posts and little to give us hope that the school would work out for our excellent in-boundary 3rd grade student (both math and ELA) in a Hill DCPS. Getting involved at the school doesn't sound worth it.
+1 welcome to the club
Pretty much all of the Hill threads end this way.