I know that this is a question from Season 1 (I tried to check the old thread, but way too many pages to read through), but the talk of Randall's house in NJ got me thinking. How was it that William was living somewhere close to NJ when Randall found him? Did they ever explain why he wasn't still in Pittsburgh?

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely the best episode of the season and renewed my faith and interest in this show again. I love how they mirrored Kevin's addiction with William's addiction. I love how they're portraying addiction in this country (Jack, William, and now Kevin). Similarly, like how they mirrored the judge/courthouse/jail scenarios between Deja's mom, William, and the Pearsons trying to adopt Randall. Just nice overall symmetry in this episode.

How is no one noticing Kevin's issues? I hope someone picks up on it soon. He looks like a hot mess in every scene now.

That brief scene when the two judges were chatting in the lounge, unaware that they were both having an impact on Randall and his families at the same moment in time, gave me shivers. I think those arcs of coincidence may happen more in life than we realize.

Plus 1!!

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I wonder if it will be Rebecca who first realizes that Kevin is addicted. She saw it with Jack and she also saw it (very briefly) with young William. I think Sophie suspects since she told him he was spiraling in that last conversation.

It is kind of bizarre how oblivious everyone seems to Kevin's issues. Kate asks "Does Kevin seem off to you?" and then she and Toby shrug it off. They're twins! Previously they could read each other's minds . . .

I can't help it, I find Kate's weight distracting. She looks a lot bigger than she did last season. I can't watch her onscreen without thinking about it.

One thing from week before last that seemed really important was the reference to Jack "leaving" - "leaving" and not "dying". It made me wonder, did Jack leave, and then die subsequently? Did he leave & then kill himself? Did he leave & kill himself in the family home which he was burning down for insurance $?

Seriously! The guy is drenched in sweat in every scene and no one says anything?

Maybe the family being oblivious to the signs of Kevin's drug use ties in with the overriding theme of him being the member of the Big Three who generally garners the least notice within the family. The show has often kind of shown the juxtaposition between Kevin being the "star" outside the family & , more often than not, a secondary character within it.

^ accidently pressed send before I finished my thought before!

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I wonder if it will be Rebecca who first realizes that Kevin is addicted. She saw it with Jack and she also saw it (very briefly) with young William. I think Sophie suspects since she told him he was spiraling in that last conversation.

It is kind of bizarre how oblivious everyone seems to Kevin's issues. Kate asks "Does Kevin seem off to you?" and then she and Toby shrug it off. They're twins! Previously they could read each other's minds . . .

I can't help it, I find Kate's weight distracting. She looks a lot bigger than she did last season. I can't watch her onscreen without thinking about it.

One thing from week before last that seemed really important was the reference to Jack "leaving" - "leaving" and not "dying". It made me wonder, did Jack leave, and then die subsequently? Did he leave & then kill himself? Did he leave & kill himself in the family home which he was burning down for insurance $?

Seriously! The guy is drenched in sweat in every scene and no one says anything?

Maybe the family being oblivious to the signs of Kevin's drug use ties in with the overriding theme of him being the member of the Big Three who generally garners the least notice within the family. The show has often kind of shown the juxtaposition between Kevin's being a star outside the family but an ofn secondary character role within the fami

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Anonymous wrote:I cant stand Kevin or Kate. They are both losers. Did neither of them even go to college? Neither seem to have any sense of purpose or any intellectual curiosity or ability. They dont take any responsibility for their own lives, blaming everything on their upbringing and parents. Its so pathetic. I love Randall though, even when he geeks out. He hit the jackpot when he married Beth. She is amazing. Probably the best character on the show IMO. I also love Rebecca.

And why should an actor go to college? What a complete waste of time & money that would be!

College is never a waste of time or money of one is smart and engaged. College is about acquiring knowledge and depth, not about training for a job - the latter happens in vocational school or while obtaining a post-graduate professional degree. Further, many young actors leave Hollywood to go to college (often the very best colleges), many colleges have great drama departments for honing the craft, and most high-achieving, successful actors have college degrees.

Kate and Kevin are losers as evidenced, in part, by their failure to attend college.

Your view as to what college is about may have some merit but it is a very privileged one.

Also, the idea that not attending college makes someota "loser" is incredibly elitist.

In any case, nothing on the show so far has really given us any kind of definitive answer as to whether or not Kevin &/or Kate went to college. Lots of tv/movie stars went to college (either for theatre/acting or for something else) & it's definitely not unheard of for a 28-year-old college grad to be working as a waitress (particularly not when the economy is as terrible as it was back in 2008).

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I wonder if it will be Rebecca who first realizes that Kevin is addicted. She saw it with Jack and she also saw it (very briefly) with young William. I think Sophie suspects since she told him he was spiraling in that last conversation.

It is kind of bizarre how oblivious everyone seems to Kevin's issues. Kate asks "Does Kevin seem off to you?" and then she and Toby shrug it off. They're twins! Previously they could read each other's minds . . .

I can't help it, I find Kate's weight distracting. She looks a lot bigger than she did last season. I can't watch her onscreen without thinking about it.

One thing from week before last that seemed really important was the reference to Jack "leaving" - "leaving" and not "dying". It made me wonder, did Jack leave, and then die subsequently? Did he leave & then kill himself? Did he leave & kill himself in the family home which he was burning down for insurance $?

Seriously! The guy is drenched in sweat in every scene and no one says anything?

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Anonymous wrote:I cant stand Kevin or Kate. They are both losers. Did neither of them even go to college? Neither seem to have any sense of purpose or any intellectual curiosity or ability. They dont take any responsibility for their own lives, blaming everything on their upbringing and parents. Its so pathetic. I love Randall though, even when he geeks out. He hit the jackpot when he married Beth. She is amazing. Probably the best character on the show IMO. I also love Rebecca.

And why should an actor go to college? What a complete waste of time & money that would be!

College is never a waste of time or money of one is smart and engaged. College is about acquiring knowledge and depth, not about training for a job - the latter happens in vocational school or while obtaining a post-graduate professional degree. Further, many young actors leave Hollywood to go to college (often the very best colleges), many colleges have great drama departments for honing the craft, and most high-achieving, successful actors have college degrees.

Kate and Kevin are losers as evidenced, in part, by their failure to attend college.

Wasn’t that poster kidding about actors and college? Had to be, right?

Have we been told that Kevin and Kate didn’t attend college?

I wonder if it will be Rebecca who first realizes that Kevin is addicted. She saw it with Jack and she also saw it (very briefly) with young William. I think Sophie suspects since she told him he was spiraling in that last conversation.

It is kind of bizarre how oblivious everyone seems to Kevin's issues. Kate asks "Does Kevin seem off to you?" and then she and Toby shrug it off. They're twins! Previously they could read each other's minds . . .

I can't help it, I find Kate's weight distracting. She looks a lot bigger than she did last season. I can't watch her onscreen without thinking about it.

One thing from week before last that seemed really important was the reference to Jack "leaving" - "leaving" and not "dying". It made me wonder, did Jack leave, and then die subsequently? Did he leave & then kill himself? Did he leave & kill himself in the family home which he was burning down for insurance $?

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Anonymous wrote:I cant stand Kevin or Kate. They are both losers. Did neither of them even go to college? Neither seem to have any sense of purpose or any intellectual curiosity or ability. They dont take any responsibility for their own lives, blaming everything on their upbringing and parents. Its so pathetic. I love Randall though, even when he geeks out. He hit the jackpot when he married Beth. She is amazing. Probably the best character on the show IMO. I also love Rebecca.

And why should an actor go to college? What a complete waste of time & money that would be!

College is never a waste of time or money of one is smart and engaged. College is about acquiring knowledge and depth, not about training for a job - the latter happens in vocational school or while obtaining a post-graduate professional degree. Further, many young actors leave Hollywood to go to college (often the very best colleges), many colleges have great drama departments for honing the craft, and most high-achieving, successful actors have college degrees.

Kate and Kevin are losers as evidenced, in part, by their failure to attend college.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely the best episode of the season and renewed my faith and interest in this show again. I love how they mirrored Kevin's addiction with William's addiction. I love how they're portraying addiction in this country (Jack, William, and now Kevin). Similarly, like how they mirrored the judge/courthouse/jail scenarios between Deja's mom, William, and the Pearsons trying to adopt Randall. Just nice overall symmetry in this episode.

How is no one noticing Kevin's issues? I hope someone picks up on it soon. He looks like a hot mess in every scene now.

That brief scene when the two judges were chatting in the lounge, unaware that they were both having an impact on Randall and his families at the same moment in time, gave me shivers. I think those arcs of coincidence may happen more in life than we realize.

YES. That was the best. I agree with you that it probably happens a lot. Loved it.

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Anonymous wrote:Definitely the best episode of the season and renewed my faith and interest in this show again. I love how they mirrored Kevin's addiction with William's addiction. I love how they're portraying addiction in this country (Jack, William, and now Kevin). Similarly, like how they mirrored the judge/courthouse/jail scenarios between Deja's mom, William, and the Pearsons trying to adopt Randall. Just nice overall symmetry in this episode.

How is no one noticing Kevin's issues? I hope someone picks up on it soon. He looks like a hot mess in every scene now.

That brief scene when the two judges were chatting in the lounge, unaware that they were both having an impact on Randall and his families at the same moment in time, gave me shivers. I think those arcs of coincidence may happen more in life than we realize.

One of the best scenes ever.

Anonymous wrote:Definitely the best episode of the season and renewed my faith and interest in this show again. I love how they mirrored Kevin's addiction with William's addiction. I love how they're portraying addiction in this country (Jack, William, and now Kevin). Similarly, like how they mirrored the judge/courthouse/jail scenarios between Deja's mom, William, and the Pearsons trying to adopt Randall. Just nice overall symmetry in this episode.

How is no one noticing Kevin's issues? I hope someone picks up on it soon. He looks like a hot mess in every scene now.

That brief scene when the two judges were chatting in the lounge, unaware that they were both having an impact on Randall and his families at the same moment in time, gave me shivers. I think those arcs of coincidence may happen more in life than we realize.

Anonymous wrote:Definitely the best episode of the season and renewed my faith and interest in this show again. I love how they mirrored Kevin's addiction with William's addiction. I love how they're portraying addiction in this country (Jack, William, and now Kevin). Similarly, like how they mirrored the judge/courthouse/jail scenarios between Deja's mom, William, and the Pearsons trying to adopt Randall. Just nice overall symmetry in this episode.

How is no one noticing Kevin's issues? I hope someone picks up on it soon. He looks like a hot mess in every scene now.

I wonder if it will be Rebecca who first realizes that Kevin is addicted. She saw it with Jack and she also saw it (very briefly) with young William. I think Sophie suspects since she told him he was spiraling in that last conversation.

Definitely the best episode of the season and renewed my faith and interest in this show again. I love how they mirrored Kevin's addiction with William's addiction. I love how they're portraying addiction in this country (Jack, William, and now Kevin). Similarly, like how they mirrored the judge/courthouse/jail scenarios between Deja's mom, William, and the Pearsons trying to adopt Randall. Just nice overall symmetry in this episode.

How is no one noticing Kevin's issues? I hope someone picks up on it soon. He looks like a hot mess in every scene now.

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Anonymous wrote:Loved the Beth Randall Deja Deja's mom thing. Loved young and old William and the judge

Kate and BF too mushy

Kevin a total ass as usual

Looking forward to the more detailed profiles of the kids coming up in the next 3 episodes

It seems like no one ever challenged Kevin to be more than the good looking class clown. I'm not talking about achievement or academics, it seems like no one expected him to ever be deep or have strong feelings or care about anything that wasn't directly effecting him.

THIS!

his was the first "it's not you, it's me" speech that is actually true. that girlfriend of his better never let him back in again.