Anonymous
Post 02/11/2015 08:40     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:

LOL. I do my legwork during the day. It's 8:46 p.m. and I've already emailed my congressman and senators today. I do attend party functions, but there isn't one right this minute. You are my entertainment for the moment.


So, this is why you support Common Core? Because your party does? Great independent thinking.



The top PP is actually opposes the Common Core standards.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2015 08:39     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

How about you go state by state, for states that adopted the Common Core standards, to find out when the state adopted the Common Core standards. Here, I'll get you started! Maryland adopted the Common Core standards on June 22, 2010.

http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/pressrelease_details/2010_06_22.html


So Maryland adopted them a few weeks after the standards were written. Gee, bet they put a lot of thought into that!


Focus, please. We are talking about whether or not states adopted the standards before they were issued. Maryland adopted the standards after they were issued.
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2015 08:18     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/13/former-education-commissioner-blasts-common-core-process/

Former education commissioner blasts Common Core process — update
My experience with the Common Core actually started when I was asked to sign on to them before they were written. … I was told I needed to sign a letter agreeing to the Common Core, and I asked if I might read them first, which is, I think, appropriate. I was told they hadn’t been written, but they still wanted my signature on the letter.


After the above was posted, I received an email from Chad Colby, director of Strategic Communications & Outreach for Achieve, a non-profit organization that helped pioneer the Common Core Standards. Colby said that Scott was wrong when he said that the authors of the Common Core were not known early in the process, and that “nobody was asked to adopt the standards before they were written.” He said that “the names of the writers and their associated work groups were released prior to July 2009.”

Actually, in February 2010, Kentucky became the first to adopt the Common Core standards before the final version was publicly released. Colby said it was not pressured to do that but chose to do it voluntarily. Hawaii approved them a week before the final of five drafts of the standards was released on June 2, 2010.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/13/former-education-commissioner-blasts-common-core-process/


So, we were right: States adopted Common Core before the standards were even written.

And Chad Colby is probably lying.


How about you go state by state, for states that adopted the Common Core standards, to find out when the state adopted the Common Core standards. Here, I'll get you started! Maryland adopted the Common Core standards on June 22, 2010.

http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/pressrelease_details/2010_06_22.html


So Maryland adopted them a few weeks after the standards were written. Gee, bet they put a lot of thought into that!
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2015 08:14     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents


LOL. I do my legwork during the day. It's 8:46 p.m. and I've already emailed my congressman and senators today. I do attend party functions, but there isn't one right this minute. You are my entertainment for the moment.



So, this is why you support Common Core? Because your party does? Great independent thinking.



Anonymous
Post 02/11/2015 08:04     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/13/former-education-commissioner-blasts-common-core-process/

Former education commissioner blasts Common Core process — update
My experience with the Common Core actually started when I was asked to sign on to them before they were written. … I was told I needed to sign a letter agreeing to the Common Core, and I asked if I might read them first, which is, I think, appropriate. I was told they hadn’t been written, but they still wanted my signature on the letter.


After the above was posted, I received an email from Chad Colby, director of Strategic Communications & Outreach for Achieve, a non-profit organization that helped pioneer the Common Core Standards. Colby said that Scott was wrong when he said that the authors of the Common Core were not known early in the process, and that “nobody was asked to adopt the standards before they were written.” He said that “the names of the writers and their associated work groups were released prior to July 2009.”

Actually, in February 2010, Kentucky became the first to adopt the Common Core standards before the final version was publicly released. Colby said it was not pressured to do that but chose to do it voluntarily. Hawaii approved them a week before the final of five drafts of the standards was released on June 2, 2010.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/13/former-education-commissioner-blasts-common-core-process/


So, we were right: States adopted Common Core before the standards were even written.

And Chad Colby is probably lying.


How about you go state by state, for states that adopted the Common Core standards, to find out when the state adopted the Common Core standards. Here, I'll get you started! Maryland adopted the Common Core standards on June 22, 2010.

http://www.marylandpublicschools.org/MSDE/pressrelease_details/2010_06_22.html
Anonymous
Post 02/11/2015 07:51     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/13/former-education-commissioner-blasts-common-core-process/

Former education commissioner blasts Common Core process — update
My experience with the Common Core actually started when I was asked to sign on to them before they were written. … I was told I needed to sign a letter agreeing to the Common Core, and I asked if I might read them first, which is, I think, appropriate. I was told they hadn’t been written, but they still wanted my signature on the letter.


After the above was posted, I received an email from Chad Colby, director of Strategic Communications & Outreach for Achieve, a non-profit organization that helped pioneer the Common Core Standards. Colby said that Scott was wrong when he said that the authors of the Common Core were not known early in the process, and that “nobody was asked to adopt the standards before they were written.” He said that “the names of the writers and their associated work groups were released prior to July 2009.”

Actually, in February 2010, Kentucky became the first to adopt the Common Core standards before the final version was publicly released. Colby said it was not pressured to do that but chose to do it voluntarily. Hawaii approved them a week before the final of five drafts of the standards was released on June 2, 2010.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/02/13/former-education-commissioner-blasts-common-core-process/



So, we were right: States adopted Common Core before the standards were even written.

And Chad Colby is probably lying.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 20:48     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

So get off the DCUM threads about the Common Core and go support them!


LOL. I do my legwork during the day. It's 8:46 p.m. and I've already emailed my congressman and senators today. I do attend party functions, but there isn't one right this minute. You are my entertainment for the moment.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 20:41     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

NCLB was law when CC was developed. Of course, annual testing was assumed.


+1 The culture of high stakes testing had already been established and the law was already in place.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 20:25     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:"the standards can be used to develop broader assessment frameworks"

from the criteria for the development of common core standards.


It's hard to imagine a more general, non-committal, appearing-to-say-something-without-actually-saying-anything statement than that.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 20:01     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

NCLB was law when CC was developed. Of course, annual testing was assumed.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 19:58     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

"the standards can be used to develop broader assessment frameworks"

from the criteria for the development of common core standards.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 19:42     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:Common Core background assumes testing.


I'm tired of this assertion too.

There is nothing in the Common Core standards that requires annual testing.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 19:40     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Common Core background assumes testing.
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 19:37     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Anonymous wrote:
Except that this is not a Common Core issue. It's a No Child Left Behind issue.


But it's step one in reducing the impact of Common Core as well.


Oh? How?
Anonymous
Post 02/10/2015 19:36     Subject: Re:Common Core question for proponents

Except that this is not a Common Core issue. It's a No Child Left Behind issue.



But it's step one in reducing the impact of Common Core as well.