Anonymous
Post 02/15/2012 21:08     Subject: Re:Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
The breed that bites the most in the US = German Shepard
The breed that holds second place = Pitt Bull

I'd like to know where you are getting your information because that is totally incorrect!

I don't understand WHY all you people are here slandering the PIT BULLs (that's how it is correctly spelled for your information) when you have no clue what you are talking about. I don't have a problem with labeling a certain DOG dangerous but to label an entire breed as dangerous is just idiocracy! This is racial profiling of dogs. Do you know my dog? Do you know her story? Do you know me? Do you know WHY I own her? I didn't buy her to look powerful or tough or buy her for protection or buy her to put her in a fight ring.....I saved her from a certain life of misery when she was 7 months old and had lived chained to a tree, her teeth filed down, guns fired at her and only the minimal amount of food and water or love was provided. She is now 9 years old and trust me, my moms weenie dogs will bite you a hell of a lot faster than my PIT BULL....so until she does bite you.....leave her the hell alone!!!!
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 17:01     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
You want to get in a tizzy about an aggressive breed? Let's talk about the Akita. I have yet to come across a friendly Akita... ever. I am sure they are out there, but my dog was in the hospital for 3 days after being mauled by one. The dog was sitting still as we were passing it, looking the other way and it just lunged. It was on a leash, but it over powered the person walking it.

I know another person who was bitten by an Akita.

I had a friend in college who's boyfriend had an Akita. It never liked her. It would nip at her and growl at her all the time. One day she was standing at the top of the stairs, the dog backed up, charged her and pushed her down the staircase.

These are dogs that were bred to hunt bears.

I started watching Pitt Bulls and Parolees, and it started to change my mind on the breed. The woman who rescues them is very responsible. It's not like she defends every dog she ever comes across..she defends the ones that are closer to the standard. I saw an episode where she suggested one be put down b/c he was aggressive and could not be changed. Don't kill the dogs because of the breed. Neuter them, find the good ones good homes and try to help put an end to irresponsible breeding instead!
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 16:07     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe this thread is still going. Stop feeding the troll who thinks killing dogs is fine because there are a "bazillion" other breeds out there!! This argument is not going to stop even if these heartless posters are legitimate. The dog people on this thread get that it is owners and not the dogs that are dangerous and would not condone murdering any dog out of fear.

No one here who cares about animals will ever ascribe to the level of hatred you have shown on this thread with this callous attitude that all "dangerous" dogs should be exterminated. This troll keeps acting like how can we all not see? I ask how can you not see that killing animals that have done no harm is wrong to most people- you are not in the majority here no matter how deluded you think you are.


I call troll on the ones defending the Pits.


Yes, I am obviously a troll because I am horrified by what some of the other posters have said? I am personally not just defending Pits here, especially since many other breeds have been mentioned in this thread. I find it alarming that individuals think that some sort of "breed cleansing" is in order.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 16:04     Subject: Re:Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ I meant you can't just exercise the aggression out of a pit. THEY ARE BRED TO BE DOG KILLERS. More often than other breeds that aggression spills over into humans--there are too many ex. to even cite here. Why are people championing a dangerous instrumentality this way. SIMPLE. misplaced obsession with lost causes and hopeless cases. People are working out they personal weakness by adopt a dangerous dog. It's sad and misguided and in many cases, deadly.
Ha ha! That's hilarious!
Let's see - so far, we found that a number of the websites/research quoted that are supposed to be anti-pit bull are actually not. The pp(s) has been misrepresenting what is on them. And we've found that the Airedales (owned by an anti-pit bull pp) are less likely to pass the temperament test than American and Staffordshire pit bulls. And the only argument left is some personal attack that having a pit bull must be a sign of trying to compensate for a personal weakness! Really funny!

Troll.


I join you in laughter, as do my pit bulls


I kind of feel bad for the trolls. When you act out negatively like a little kid for attention like they do, it means you probably need more love in your life and more hugs.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 15:50     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:This is what happens when you place two pit bulls in a house together. Remember, they are very dog aggressive, so, you can only imagine the horror...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/taijalynn/2439155452/



You reminded me about how un cute they are.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 15:49     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe this thread is still going. Stop feeding the troll who thinks killing dogs is fine because there are a "bazillion" other breeds out there!! This argument is not going to stop even if these heartless posters are legitimate. The dog people on this thread get that it is owners and not the dogs that are dangerous and would not condone murdering any dog out of fear.

No one here who cares about animals will ever ascribe to the level of hatred you have shown on this thread with this callous attitude that all "dangerous" dogs should be exterminated. This troll keeps acting like how can we all not see? I ask how can you not see that killing animals that have done no harm is wrong to most people- you are not in the majority here no matter how deluded you think you are.


I call troll on the ones defending the Pits.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 14:41     Subject: Re:Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ I meant you can't just exercise the aggression out of a pit. THEY ARE BRED TO BE DOG KILLERS. More often than other breeds that aggression spills over into humans--there are too many ex. to even cite here. Why are people championing a dangerous instrumentality this way. SIMPLE. misplaced obsession with lost causes and hopeless cases. People are working out they personal weakness by adopt a dangerous dog. It's sad and misguided and in many cases, deadly.
Ha ha! That's hilarious!
Let's see - so far, we found that a number of the websites/research quoted that are supposed to be anti-pit bull are actually not. The pp(s) has been misrepresenting what is on them. And we've found that the Airedales (owned by an anti-pit bull pp) are less likely to pass the temperament test than American and Staffordshire pit bulls. And the only argument left is some personal attack that having a pit bull must be a sign of trying to compensate for a personal weakness! Really funny!

Troll.


I join you in laughter, as do my pit bulls
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 14:39     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
More scary dog aggressive pits:

http://www.pitbulls.org/node/2728
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 14:37     Subject: Re:Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:^^ I meant you can't just exercise the aggression out of a pit. THEY ARE BRED TO BE DOG KILLERS. More often than other breeds that aggression spills over into humans--there are too many ex. to even cite here. Why are people championing a dangerous instrumentality this way. SIMPLE. misplaced obsession with lost causes and hopeless cases. People are working out they personal weakness by adopt a dangerous dog. It's sad and misguided and in many cases, deadly.
Ha ha! That's hilarious!
Let's see - so far, we found that a number of the websites/research quoted that are supposed to be anti-pit bull are actually not. The pp(s) has been misrepresenting what is on them. And we've found that the Airedales (owned by an anti-pit bull pp) are less likely to pass the temperament test than American and Staffordshire pit bulls. And the only argument left is some personal attack that having a pit bull must be a sign of trying to compensate for a personal weakness! Really funny!

Troll.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 14:36     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
This is what happens when you place two pit bulls in a house together. Remember, they are very dog aggressive, so, you can only imagine the horror...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/taijalynn/2439155452/
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 14:29     Subject: Re:Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:PP, it seems that you may be drawn to this breed because you too are relentless and almost irrational. The pit bull terrier is an overly aggressive dog that was BRED TO FIGHT AND KILL OTHER DOGS. What is there about that that you don't understand? Sure it can be a loving companion to a person or a family--why do you need to walk around with a loaded cannon? Your irrational devotion to such a dangerous breed is threat to other dog owners everywhere:
PIT BULL TERRIER

Is this breed good with other dogs in general?

The short answer is no. Developed for the purpose of fighting other dogs, most pit bulls are dog aggressive, at least to some degree. Some pit bulls will simply not tolerate any other dogs, regardless of sex. A few pit bulls will remain dog friendly their entire lives, but they are a minority.The majority of pit bulls are at least same sex aggressive and as adults will not do well with other dogs of the same sex or those that are "pushy" with them, although as pups they may get along fine (this can be very misleading to a novice pit bull owner). Pit bulls will commonly start developing signs of dog aggression between the ages of 8 months and 2 years, although it can develop at any age and can come on either gradually or quite suddenly. It is important to note that many pit bulls do not display the "typical" signs of dog aggression before a fight. They may not growl, bark, or posture at all, but simply alert and raise up on their toes. Owners of dog aggressive pit bulls learn to "read" their dogs and recognize the subtle signs indicating impending dog aggression. Training will not eliminate dog aggression in the pit bull but, when combined with responsibility and vigilance, training can bring these natural tendencies under control in on-leash situations. Where housemates are concerned, if one is a pit bull, extra care should be taken to prevent tension over food, desirable treats (like bones), and favored toys. These items are often "triggers" for spats or fights between dogs sharing the same house and owners should be very aware of them. This is also the reason that an adult pit bull should NOT be left alone with housemates or other dogs. Due to their fighting heritage, many pit bulls do not recognize signs of submission given by a dog they are fighting and, if they are unsupervised, the results can be disastrous. It should be noted that many breeds have dog aggressive tendencies, and leaving any such breed unsupervised with another dog, especially a dog of the same sex, can lead to a tragedy.

http://www.rescueeverydog.org/pitbull_breed.html
PP, I'm beginning to think you're a troll. Because, as another pp noted, the same webpage talks about how much pit bulls love children in the paragraph right before the paragraph above. You couldn't possibly have missed it which suggests you're just trying to push people's buttons and stir up trouble. I'm starting to wonder if you're also the pp who selectively quoted research available on the CDC website.

More from the site above:
The pit bull is typically a people loving, intelligent and fun breed. Many excel at obedience training and dog sports such as agility, weight pull, frisbee, and flyball. Due to their affinity with people, this breed is a good candidate for rescue and adoption, but potential homes need to be carefully screened to insure that the new owners understand and accept the responsibility of owning a pit bull. Media hysteria and bad owners have greatly damaged this breed and every incident involving a pit bull makes it worse for the entire breed and their owners, often prompting breed specific legislation or breed bans.

For those posters who have doubts about pit bulls but still have an open mind, I encourage you to seek out the source material for some of the arguments cited here - because there is at least one poster who is misrepresenting (possibly deliberately) the material he or she is citing.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 13:34     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe this thread is still going. Stop feeding the troll who thinks killing dogs is fine because there are a "bazillion" other breeds out there!! This argument is not going to stop even if these heartless posters are legitimate. The dog people on this thread get that it is owners and not the dogs that are dangerous and would not condone murdering any dog out of fear.

No one here who cares about animals will ever ascribe to the level of hatred you have shown on this thread with this callous attitude that all "dangerous" dogs should be exterminated. This troll keeps acting like how can we all not see? I ask how can you not see that killing animals that have done no harm is wrong to most people- you are not in the majority here no matter how deluded you think you are.


You are correct. I am guilty of feeding these trolls repeatedly because I actually thought maybe they were rational enough to read data, hear from people with real pit bull experience, etc. These heartless posters refuse to look at real evidence that pit bulls are not vicious killing machines and refuse to educate themselves. I have to think their outrageous assertions and screaming PIT BULLS ARE DANGEROUS is all for attention. Just like a naughty child doing bad things for attention, we should ignore them.

Trolls and the heartless minority, consider yourselves ignored from now on. The majority, the pit bull and true dog lovers, will continue to adopt and love on pit bulls for generations and generations to come. And, THAT, is one final fact for you


Pit bull kisses to all
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 13:32     Subject: Re:Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
If my neighbor had a pit bull who threatened my kids, and I had reasonable cause to think there was a real threat, then that dog would not be long for this earth.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 13:17     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
I cannot believe this thread is still going. Stop feeding the troll who thinks killing dogs is fine because there are a "bazillion" other breeds out there!! This argument is not going to stop even if these heartless posters are legitimate. The dog people on this thread get that it is owners and not the dogs that are dangerous and would not condone murdering any dog out of fear.

No one here who cares about animals will ever ascribe to the level of hatred you have shown on this thread with this callous attitude that all "dangerous" dogs should be exterminated. This troll keeps acting like how can we all not see? I ask how can you not see that killing animals that have done no harm is wrong to most people- you are not in the majority here no matter how deluded you think you are.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2012 12:53     Subject: Why do people still think that these ferocious dog breeds are safe and should be tolerated?
^^ So true. My lab mix is leash reactive - dog aggressive on leash. She, we keep her from other dogs on leash. We also worked really hard with a trainer on her problem. Any breed can have aggression issues. It is up to the owner to train there dog, or keep them away from other dogs if they are dog aggressive.