Anonymous wrote:Single man 40 here. I want children but dating has been such a slog that I’ve basically given up. I’m 6’1” and a Navy veteran. Currently making good money in defense tech. Healthy (lift and run regularly) with broad social life.

For some reason the women that I want aren’t interested in me. My hinge is set for 27-32 because I want children. Women closer to my age don’t interest me. I tried dating a few in the 35-43 range and they all struggled with vulnerability and emotional communication. May have been my filtering but these were all professional women who dedicated everything to their careers.

Recently I deleted my Hinge and stopped looking. I don’t want to be an old father. My best friends dad was in his 80s when we were in college and I don’t want that experience if I have children.

I don’t get lonely and I’m used to living alone. So dating is optional and less desirable for me now.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

They are not overblown. The risks are just different for men and women after 35. The risks presented by older women eggs can be mitigated by abortion in early stage after all the tests (normal practice for pregnancies over 35 ). But autism risk from older dad won’t be noticeable until after your toddler can’t hold a spoon or can’t eye track items

Anonymous wrote:children as side quest to her girlboss aspirations

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Anonymous wrote:40 yo Navy vet PP here, my preference for 27-32 is because I want to have children. The women attacking me assume that I’m chasing looks or beauty, no.

I dated a woman my age for 4 years in my mid 30s. She didn’t want to have children and ended the relationship. I want a woman who wants to build a family together, not see family or children as side quest to her girlboss aspirations.

You can’t get around the fertility wall at 35. Sorry, biology and data speaks the truth here.

Most women don’t want an old dad..

We seem them on full display on our kids college campus..Move in and out day in particular.

Out of breath, can’t lift chit, asking all the younger fathers for help, complaining about their replaced knees.

Ehhhh.

I mean, 40 isn't THAT old for a man to start a family, but I largely agree with you. The thing about these smug dudes who walk around talking about the "fertility wall" is that they assume the women all want what they have.

In reality, women in their 20s are going to be looking for men in their 20s and 30s, and the "highest status" women are meeting those men at graduate school and work, not on dating apps.

Women in their early 30s might be willing to look at a guy in his early 40s, but guys who walk around observing women's biological clocks are not generally that pleasant to be around.

If PP drags this out until he's like 45, the chances drop because THEN you are getting into "is this dude going to be around to see our kids graduate college" territory. Not to mention "what's the autism risk for a 45 year-old dad" territory.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

The 6-6-6 thing is a lie made up by red pilled incels who have never actually spoken to a woman.

Time and again, women have explained what they want, but men would rather listen to other men about women's preferences.

To be fair, I think the “men want younger women for fertility” thing is also way overblown.

I mean, I’ve known men who didn’t know what labia were called or didn’t know that women can pee with tampons in. Yet these men are also experts in female fertility? I’m not buying it.

I also think most men don’t even care all that much about having their own kids. Most seem to do it because it’s expected, but I’ve only met maybe 2 men who REALLY wanted kids. The rest just sort of took them or left them.

Of course his “want kids” claim is simply to justify needing access to much younger body. He failed to commit to anyone in 20-30s when he was in that age group . Was parting, drinking and sleeping around with 20 yo “wh…res”. Now he wants a 27 yo “old virgin” to marry. Classic redpill toxic misogynist

I mean, I seriously doubt he’s actually a successful, fit Navy veteran.

I think a lot of the men here claiming to be sexy, successful bachelors are trolls trying to trigger women here. A 41 year old navy veteran or 37 year old Fintech guy wouldn’t be hanging out here anymore than us middle aged moms would be hanging out on a forum for single, childless men.

Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of men over 35 who have never been married, have no kids and/or are divorced, but have no interest whatsoever in dating. And there is nothing wrong with these men. They are employed, their mental health is okay, they just want to remain single. Why??

Anonymous wrote:His upper bound is 32… that’s not that young. Him dating a 40 yo is unlikely to produce a child. Also it takes a a year or two date, engage, wed, get pregnant etc. I think his preference is not unreasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

The 6-6-6 thing is a lie made up by red pilled incels who have never actually spoken to a woman.

Time and again, women have explained what they want, but men would rather listen to other men about women's preferences.

To be fair, I think the “men want younger women for fertility” thing is also way overblown.

I mean, I’ve known men who didn’t know what labia were called or didn’t know that women can pee with tampons in. Yet these men are also experts in female fertility? I’m not buying it.

I also think most men don’t even care all that much about having their own kids. Most seem to do it because it’s expected, but I’ve only met maybe 2 men who REALLY wanted kids. The rest just sort of took them or left them.

Of course his “want kids” claim is simply to justify needing access to much younger body. He failed to commit to anyone in 20-30s when he was in that age group . Was parting, drinking and sleeping around with 20 yo “wh…res”. Now he wants a 27 yo “old virgin” to marry. Classic redpill toxic misogynist

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Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

The 6-6-6 thing is a lie made up by red pilled incels who have never actually spoken to a woman.

Time and again, women have explained what they want, but men would rather listen to other men about women's preferences.

To be fair, I think the “men want younger women for fertility” thing is also way overblown.

I mean, I’ve known men who didn’t know what labia were called or didn’t know that women can pee with tampons in. Yet these men are also experts in female fertility? I’m not buying it.

I also think most men don’t even care all that much about having their own kids. Most seem to do it because it’s expected, but I’ve only met maybe 2 men who REALLY wanted kids. The rest just sort of took them or left them.

Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

The 6-6-6 thing is a lie made up by red pilled incels who have never actually spoken to a woman.

Time and again, women have explained what they want, but men would rather listen to other men about women's preferences.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.

The 6-6-6 thing is a lie made up by red pilled incels who have never actually spoken to a woman.

Time and again, women have explained what they want, but men would rather listen to other men about women's preferences.

Anonymous wrote:I think the "old sperm autism" theory is a bit overblown, especially compared to geriatric pregnancy and egg viability concerns which get worse at 35 for women.

Women have their preferences e.g., 6 figures, 6" doodad etc... but when men express preference it's the end of the world.