Anonymous
04/13/2026 16:05
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
Even in this day-and-age a large percentage of kids will be limited either by their own hesitance or their parents about going to school 3,000 miles from home, nor are they excited to attend college in Houston (which is also 2000 miles away).
There are many kids who won't consider traveling to one coast or the other for college, no matter what.
I guarantee you there are quite a few who would turn down Ga Tech for Harvard or Yale even for engineering.
I will give you MIT.
There are tons of families on the West Coast that will happily send their kids to Princeton. And there are tons of families on the East Coast that will happily send their kids to Stanford. And typically, they have the resources to manage a plane ticket to go back and forth on holidays. Whether a student goes some miles away to Boston, Houston, San Francisco, Chicago, wherever isn't really a factor for most of these students at this level of schools. All the Ivies and comparable colleges are national schools.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 16:03
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
I hate referencing Parchment, but Ga Tech loses to every Ivy school (some like Penn and Dartmouth and Princeton by huge margins) and they are all color-coded except (so it's a statistically significant sample size) vs. Yale or Columbia where they lose but it's not statistically significant enough.
I doubt these are students who applied to Ga Tech to study humanities.
GATech doesn’t offer humanities.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 15:55
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Choose based on fit. It will be better for everyone except the parents when talking to their friends.
Agree, DD was admitted to ivy+.
I thought to myself why would she not go there? (Money similar)
DD chose a different but lower status very respectable school and it’s been perfect for her!
+1
Anonymous
04/13/2026 14:04
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Choose based on fit. It will be better for everyone except the parents when talking to their friends.
Agree, DD was admitted to ivy+.
I thought to myself why would she not go there? (Money similar)
DD chose a different but lower status very respectable school and it’s been perfect for her!
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:53
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
I hate referencing Parchment, but Ga Tech loses to every Ivy school (some like Penn and Dartmouth and Princeton by huge margins) and they are all color-coded except (so it's a statistically significant sample size) vs. Yale or Columbia where they lose but it's not statistically significant enough.
I doubt these are students who applied to Ga Tech to study humanities.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:46
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
The pre-eminence of HYP is not merely historical.
Harvard provides access to the largest intellectual community in the country. Princeton offers the best undergraduate education of any university in the country. Yale is pre-eminent in humanities and combines the prestige of an Ivy with the relaxed attitude one might find at a SLAC.
And many students do indeed turn down opportunities to study engineering at schools with strong engineering programs to attend Harvard, Yale, or a “lesser Ivy” where they can be part of a distinguished university with strengths in multiple disciplines.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:45
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
Even in this day-and-age a large percentage of kids will be limited either by their own hesitance or their parents about going to school 3,000 miles from home, nor are they excited to attend college in Houston (which is also 2000 miles away).
There are many kids who won't consider traveling to one coast or the other for college, no matter what.
I guarantee you there are quite a few who would turn down Ga Tech for Harvard or Yale even for engineering.
I will give you MIT.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:34
Subject: Re:Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From recent Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives
“That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.”
This is from C-suite executives.
Link?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/04/08/how-forbes-selected-the-new-ivies-for-2026-our-third-annual-list/
That article doesn’t co rain a single quote of any type. You might as well have posted a link to tinder.
So they made their survey of
these executives up? Ok pal
That quote is not in the linked article you blithering fool.
Second to the last paragraph bud. Enjoy.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/04/08/the-new-ivies-20-great-employer-friendly-colleges-embracing-ai/
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:29
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
For historical reasons, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton remain preeminent. However, since none take students in Early Decision, it's a smaller pool of top students that go there. Many of the best students are committed elsewhere and don't even apply to HYP.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
As for the rest of the Ivies, there are at least a dozen schools that are often better choices than Penn, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. It depends on the kid and what they want to study and do. This is especially prominent in STEM, which is where a lot of the smart kids are these days. No one chooses Yale or Harvard or Brown or Dartmouth or Columbia for engineering when they have Stanford, MIT, Rice, Georgia Tech, Berkeley, CalTech and so on.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:20
Subject: Re:Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From recent Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives
“That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.”
This is from C-suite executives.
And that’s debunked with their article last month that said due to poor job market they are mainly hiring from the Ivies/T15
c'mon. Are you sayin the Forbes reporters and authors of that article made it up? wow.
Not completely. If I recall correctly there was such a quote in an article last year…….from an exec at a small company in the Mid-West who was a graduate of a regional public and unlikely to ever see an Ivy grad apply. It was completely performative.
Now I know why my Harvard grad had such a hard time getting a job with Cedar City Ball Bearings Company.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 13:02
Subject: Re:Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From recent Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives
“That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.”
This is from C-suite executives.
Link?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/04/08/how-forbes-selected-the-new-ivies-for-2026-our-third-annual-list/
That article doesn’t co rain a single quote of any type. You might as well have posted a link to tinder.
So they made their survey of
these executives up? Ok pal
That quote is not in the linked article you blithering fool.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 12:43
Subject: Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
no people pick other schools over ivies all the time.
I think not all the ivies are the same. princeton, harvard and yale prob have much better yield over non-ivies than dartmouth, brown, cornell, columbia.
for eg, I know a handful of kids over the past 5 years who picked a school from the "ivy plus" schools or a private college "new ivy" over an actual ivy.
it happens.
I think not all the ivies are the same. princeton, harvard and yale prob have much better yield over non-ivies than dartmouth, brown, cornell, columbia.
for eg, I know a handful of kids over the past 5 years who picked a school from the "ivy plus" schools or a private college "new ivy" over an actual ivy.
it happens.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 12:38
Subject: Re:Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From recent Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives
“That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.”
This is from C-suite executives.
Link?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/04/08/how-forbes-selected-the-new-ivies-for-2026-our-third-annual-list/
That article doesn’t co rain a single quote of any type. You might as well have posted a link to tinder.
So they made their survey of
these executives up? Ok pal
Anonymous
04/13/2026 10:41
Subject: Re:Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From recent Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives
“That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.”
This is from C-suite executives.
And that’s debunked with their article last month that said due to poor job market they are mainly hiring from the Ivies/T15
c'mon. Are you sayin the Forbes reporters and authors of that article made it up? wow.
Not completely. If I recall correctly there was such a quote in an article last year…….from an exec at a small company in the Mid-West who was a graduate of a regional public and unlikely to ever see an Ivy grad apply. It was completely performative.
Anonymous
04/13/2026 10:38
Subject: Re:Is it crazy to choose a non-ivy over an ivy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
From recent Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives
“That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.”
This is from C-suite executives.
Link?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/aliciapark/2026/04/08/how-forbes-selected-the-new-ivies-for-2026-our-third-annual-list/
That article doesn’t co rain a single quote of any type. You might as well have posted a link to tinder.