Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?
You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.
You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.
"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/
“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!
Oh. I see. You think he really meant it from the bottom of his heart.
Absolutely!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So you're saying you don't understand the meaning of the word involuntary?
I think what everyone is hung up on is that this word had to have been in his thoughts. Seems stretchy to me.
So nobody can suggest someone like that should not attend golf tennis or chess matches?
I will suggest it. If they can't be counted on to control their tics to the point it can become a disturbance to those involved, then of course they should not attend.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?
You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.
You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.
"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/
“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!
Oh. I see. You think he really meant it from the bottom of his heart.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?
You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.
You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.
"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/
“Involuntary noises or movements,” ≠ racial slurs!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?
You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.
You can't just make up your own facts that nobody knew and there was no warning. This is perfectly clear. The larger issue isn't about John's presence it's the response by BBC and BAFTA that has angered people. People here seem to be making it all about the apology or lack of one.
"Before the ceremony began the floor manager also introduced Davidson to the audience, saying: “I’d like to welcome John Davidson MBE from one of our nominated films ‘I Swear’. John has Tourette’s Syndrome so please be aware you might hear some involuntary noises or movements during the ceremony.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/alan-cumming-john-davidson-i-swear-outbursts-1236669691/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
What are you not understanding? If they were warned prior to the show then what was the need to inform individuals sitting next to Davidson?
You are creating your own version of what you want to believe happened.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Ahead of time... but they were warned that night. Given that, I'd much rather be one of them than Davidson who has to go through life with this condition.
Anonymous wrote:to them it was a random man shouting racial slurs at themAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Attendees were not warned.
“ Prior to the start of the ceremony, floor managers warned guests and attendees sitting around Davidson of his condition, without specifying what kinds of outbursts they might hear. According to multiple sources, none of the nominees or attendees were contacted by BAFTA or BBC ahead of the show with any such warnings.”
https://variety.com/2026/film/awards/bafta-aired-n-word-michael-b-jordan-delroy-lindo-owed-apology-1236669999/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:of course I know they exist. My question is if they should be there. It’s kind of like why babies are usually not allowed at black tie weddings .Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?
Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.
Babies cry, people make noises. Babies are banned from black tie weddings because they are late in the evening. But we don't ban babies from church services because there are periods of silence.
Babies are banned from weddings all the time because they are disruptive, and screaming babies in church are usually removed to the side room by their parents
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:of course I know they exist. My question is if they should be there. It’s kind of like why babies are usually not allowed at black tie weddings .Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?
Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.
Babies cry, people make noises. Babies are banned from black tie weddings because they are late in the evening. But we don't ban babies from church services because there are periods of silence.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Say there is a massive terror attack and there is a memorial service at Westminster abbey. There will be prayers and a moment of silence for the victims. Should John Davidson be there given he might scream out obscenities during the moment of silence?
Can people really not understand that these people exist? I have encountered this a few times in my life. It's unnerving the first time you hear it because you weren't expecting it but then you roll with it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!
No. The attendees were warned.
Anonymous wrote:I do think it’s partially his fault because all of the following: the impact and not intent, the non-apology, and the word even being an option for him.
to them it was a random man shouting racial slurs at themAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This kind of is an example about how liberalism seems to focus on victimhood and who is the bigger victim and victims can do no wrong. What he shouted was deeply offensive . He didn’t really apologize . If I had a disorder that made me make sudden motions and I hurt someone I would apologize if I so even though I didn’t intend to. They still got hurt
What if you were warned that it might happen first? The reaction seems to be "well, you were warned." That's what's happening here.
The only people that were warned about his potential outbursts were the ones sitting in his general vicinity. Which makes it even worse because MJB and Delroy thought it was just some random man in the audience hurling a racial slur at them!