Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For someone so superficial, Alex looked terrible in his tux. He was giving off Mr Belvedere/chunky Lt Ryker vibes.
He looked like he rolled in from an all night bender.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is anyone getting beard from Ashley's mom?
OMG, I thought this!
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone getting beard from Ashley's mom?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.
But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?
We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.
I think her remarks were restrained.
Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.
NP-I disagree. Which was it: she admired him being resilient in the face of trauma and obstacles, or she hated him all along because he was a liar? She tried to have it both way at the wedding, and it did not make sense she'd even go there at all if he was so horrible. She clearly was hoping for "her moment" and seemed so gleeful afterwards like she thought she came off great, but she did not since he just stood there and took most of it pretty calmly. And to be clear I don't like Alex so this isn't me defending him at all, but it felt very staged and silly.
Agree, she and her father seemed gleeful and had clearly planned this before. "You got this, you're Ashley Carpenter!" Gag.
Alex is a horrible partner, lies all the time. But it's clear he has lots of trauma and lying to whomever and being who they want is his defense mechanism. Doesn't mean Ashley has to put up with that, but she saw through it early on and then just stuck with it in order to do her wedding speech. She did not come off great either. It's not like something horrible happened the day before to change her mind or something.
She was obviously hurt, and defensive. She is human.
And undoubtedly there is epic disappointment when you have convinced yourself that you found “ your person,” only to be lied to again. [/b]And rejected on top of things.[b]
Was this what was actually driving her to make that speech?
Alex said he warned her the day before he would say no so she went and wrote up a speech to make her look good but she lost.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.
But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?
We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.
I think her remarks were restrained.
Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.
NP-I disagree. Which was it: she admired him being resilient in the face of trauma and obstacles, or she hated him all along because he was a liar? She tried to have it both way at the wedding, and it did not make sense she'd even go there at all if he was so horrible. She clearly was hoping for "her moment" and seemed so gleeful afterwards like she thought she came off great, but she did not since he just stood there and took most of it pretty calmly. And to be clear I don't like Alex so this isn't me defending him at all, but it felt very staged and silly.
Agree, she and her father seemed gleeful and had clearly planned this before. "You got this, you're Ashley Carpenter!" Gag.
Alex is a horrible partner, lies all the time. But it's clear he has lots of trauma and lying to whomever and being who they want is his defense mechanism. Doesn't mean Ashley has to put up with that, but she saw through it early on and then just stuck with it in order to do her wedding speech. She did not come off great either. It's not like something horrible happened the day before to change her mind or something.
She was obviously hurt, and defensive. She is human.
And undoubtedly there is epic disappointment when you have convinced yourself that you found “ your person,” only to be lied to again. [/b]And rejected on top of things.[b]
Was this what was actually driving her to make that speech?
Alex said he warned her the day before he would say no so she went and wrote up a speech to make her look good but she lost.
Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of athletes and it’s amazing how much of their training vocabulary they use in non-sport contexts. The number of times I’ve heard “It’s like my coach used to say…” So all of his comments about how it’s game time, I’m lacing up my cleats, etc. completely tracks. As one of the few non-athletes at my job, it takes some getting used to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For someone so superficial, Alex looked terrible in his tux. He was giving off Mr Belvedere/chunky Lt Ryker vibes.
He looked like he rolled in from an all night bender.
Yeah. Plus, it was so on character for him to compare marriage to soccer. It was nauseating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.
But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?
We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.
I think her remarks were restrained.
Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.
NP-I disagree. Which was it: she admired him being resilient in the face of trauma and obstacles, or she hated him all along because he was a liar? She tried to have it both way at the wedding, and it did not make sense she'd even go there at all if he was so horrible. She clearly was hoping for "her moment" and seemed so gleeful afterwards like she thought she came off great, but she did not since he just stood there and took most of it pretty calmly. And to be clear I don't like Alex so this isn't me defending him at all, but it felt very staged and silly.
Agree, she and her father seemed gleeful and had clearly planned this before. "You got this, you're Ashley Carpenter!" Gag.
Alex is a horrible partner, lies all the time. But it's clear he has lots of trauma and lying to whomever and being who they want is his defense mechanism. Doesn't mean Ashley has to put up with that, but she saw through it early on and then just stuck with it in order to do her wedding speech. She did not come off great either. It's not like something horrible happened the day before to change her mind or something.
Anonymous wrote:I work with a lot of athletes and it’s amazing how much of their training vocabulary they use in non-sport contexts. The number of times I’ve heard “It’s like my coach used to say…” So all of his comments about how it’s game time, I’m lacing up my cleats, etc. completely tracks. As one of the few non-athletes at my job, it takes some getting used to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For someone so superficial, Alex looked terrible in his tux. He was giving off Mr Belvedere/chunky Lt Ryker vibes.
He looked like he rolled in from an all night bender.
Yeah. Plus, it was so on character for him to compare marriage to soccer. It was nauseating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.
But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?
We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.
I think her remarks were restrained.
Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.
NP-I disagree. Which was it: she admired him being resilient in the face of trauma and obstacles, or she hated him all along because he was a liar? She tried to have it both way at the wedding, and it did not make sense she'd even go there at all if he was so horrible. She clearly was hoping for "her moment" and seemed so gleeful afterwards like she thought she came off great, but she did not since he just stood there and took most of it pretty calmly. And to be clear I don't like Alex so this isn't me defending him at all, but it felt very staged and silly.
Agree, she and her father seemed gleeful and had clearly planned this before. "You got this, you're Ashley Carpenter!" Gag.
Alex is a horrible partner, lies all the time. But it's clear he has lots of trauma and lying to whomever and being who they want is his defense mechanism. Doesn't mean Ashley has to put up with that, but she saw through it early on and then just stuck with it in order to do her wedding speech. She did not come off great either. It's not like something horrible happened the day before to change her mind or something.
She was obviously hurt, and defensive. She is human.
And undoubtedly there is epic disappointment when you have convinced yourself that you found “ your person,” only to be lied to again. [/b]And rejected on top of things.[b]
Was this what was actually driving her to make that speech?
I work with a lot of athletes and it’s amazing how much of their training vocabulary they use in non-sport contexts. The number of times I’ve heard “It’s like my coach used to say…” So all of his comments about how it’s game time, I’m lacing up my cleats, etc. completely tracks. As one of the few non-athletes at my job, it takes some getting used to.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For someone so superficial, Alex looked terrible in his tux. He was giving off Mr Belvedere/chunky Lt Ryker vibes.
He looked like he rolled in from an all night bender.
Yeah. Plus, it was so on character for him to compare marriage to soccer. It was nauseating.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For someone so superficial, Alex looked terrible in his tux. He was giving off Mr Belvedere/chunky Lt Ryker vibes.
He looked like he rolled in from an all night bender.
Anonymous wrote:For someone so superficial, Alex looked terrible in his tux. He was giving off Mr Belvedere/chunky Lt Ryker vibes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Alex is insufferable.
But was it really necessary to embarrass him on a world stage and disrespect his mother siting there?
We would not have been happy if she did not explain her reasoning.
I think her remarks were restrained.
Sorry, but if you are fragile perhaps you should not go on a reality TV show.
NP-I disagree. Which was it: she admired him being resilient in the face of trauma and obstacles, or she hated him all along because he was a liar? She tried to have it both way at the wedding, and it did not make sense she'd even go there at all if he was so horrible. She clearly was hoping for "her moment" and seemed so gleeful afterwards like she thought she came off great, but she did not since he just stood there and took most of it pretty calmly. And to be clear I don't like Alex so this isn't me defending him at all, but it felt very staged and silly.
Agree, she and her father seemed gleeful and had clearly planned this before. "You got this, you're Ashley Carpenter!" Gag.
Alex is a horrible partner, lies all the time. But it's clear he has lots of trauma and lying to whomever and being who they want is his defense mechanism. Doesn't mean Ashley has to put up with that, but she saw through it early on and then just stuck with it in order to do her wedding speech. She did not come off great either. It's not like something horrible happened the day before to change her mind or something.
She was obviously hurt, and defensive. She is human.
And undoubtedly there is epic disappointment when you have convinced yourself that you found “ your person,” only to be lied to again. [/b]And rejected on top of things.[b]