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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Here is the problem. Almost 40% of B-CCs class has a weighted average over 4.51 according to their school profile. And they are not a terribly large school or the most high performing.

My kid who really isn’t an academic superstar has a 4.8+. I think MCPS just has a lot of kids with very high GPAs and they can’t realistically admit them all.

It's because the MCPS grading system is awful and set up for inflation. 89.5 in no respected institution equates to an A. They need to fix this or else the top academic kids won't be able to differentiate themselves from the kids who are barely scraping by.

The change to the grading system will make this much easier, but I'm not sure about other counties, which might make it difficult to do a straight "top 10%" like they do in some other states. But some states use a combo of GPA plus SAT/ACT -- that would be a viable way to do it. They could also start re-weighting the GPAs to take out the fake weighting -- a lot of state college systems do that. My kid is a junior and reports that most of the kids with the highest GPAs are NOT taking the hardest classes -- if it's weighted it's only because everything is honors, they aren't taking the hard APs, so under the current dumb weighting system, there's really no extra boost for taking higher rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

There is more to an application than GPA. My kid has 3.9 UW and 4.7 W with 34 ACT and we figured 50 50 odds kd getting in

That’s crazy your kid should be a lock

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Here is the problem. Almost 40% of B-CCs class has a weighted average over 4.51 according to their school profile. And they are not a terribly large school or the most high performing.

My kid who really isn’t an academic superstar has a 4.8+. I think MCPS just has a lot of kids with very high GPAs and they can’t realistically admit them all.

It's because the MCPS grading system is awful and set up for inflation. 89.5 in no respected institution equates to an A. They need to fix this or else the top academic kids won't be able to differentiate themselves from the kids who are barely scraping by.

They did. Just this year.

Good. My kid is at a private so I didn't know about this change, but hopefully this fixes things.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Here is the problem. Almost 40% of B-CCs class has a weighted average over 4.51 according to their school profile. And they are not a terribly large school or the most high performing.

My kid who really isn’t an academic superstar has a 4.8+. I think MCPS just has a lot of kids with very high GPAs and they can’t realistically admit them all.

It's because the MCPS grading system is awful and set up for inflation. 89.5 in no respected institution equates to an A. They need to fix this or else the top academic kids won't be able to differentiate themselves from the kids who are barely scraping by.

They did. Just this year.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

There is more to an application than GPA. My kid has 3.9 UW and 4.7 W with 34 ACT and we figured 50 50 odds kd getting in

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Maybe another kid had a 4.8 unweighted not *just* a 4.4 (yes some schools have fewer APs)?

This comes up every year, but it doesn't make it right. Kids above a certain bar should be admitted to the state's flagship university. They could set that bar. It shouldn't be a lottery, but something that parents (taxpayers) and kids can expect. If they want to limit the number of kids from certain schools, go with the top 10% like other states.

You do realize less kids in Montgomery and Howard counties would be getting in then right?

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Here is the problem. Almost 40% of B-CCs class has a weighted average over 4.51 according to their school profile. And they are not a terribly large school or the most high performing.

My kid who really isn’t an academic superstar has a 4.8+. I think MCPS just has a lot of kids with very high GPAs and they can’t realistically admit them all.

It's because the MCPS grading system is awful and set up for inflation. 89.5 in no respected institution equates to an A. They need to fix this or else the top academic kids won't be able to differentiate themselves from the kids who are barely scraping by.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Here is the problem. Almost 40% of B-CCs class has a weighted average over 4.51 according to their school profile. And they are not a terribly large school or the most high performing.

My kid who really isn’t an academic superstar has a 4.8+. I think MCPS just has a lot of kids with very high GPAs and they can’t realistically admit them all.

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Anonymous wrote:According to Bethesda Magazine, 32% of those who applied to UMCP were accepted from the top Bethesda area high schools. Compare that to my daughter's Bethesda area private school, where 54% are accepted. The sad part is the majority do not matriculate there because they are more interested in private universities and can afford them. In my opinion, UMCP should be more discriminating with private school applicants, but I suspect that is not feasible. Clearly these students are just checking the box to apply. For my daughter, Maryland was considered a "very likely" despite everyone claiming it is such a hard school to get into. Doesn't seem fair to me.

Private school kids often have to work for As in classes. 93 or 94 not 90. And late assignments and other tomfoolery are not treated with respect as in public schools.

90 is an A- in FCPS you douche.

NP. We are talking about MCPS you douche. This is a UMD thread. Go back to your thread on UVA.

I believe UMD enrolls students outside MCPS and MD.

Go back and read this thread. The initial comment was about Bethesda area schools. Virginia doesn't matter in this discussion.

The initial comment on this thread was, "Here is a thread for you urban moms for once they release decisions".

I am talking about this particular discussion within the thread. Keep up. Click on "click to show earlier quotes" on this comment, and you will hopefully finally get it.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Maybe another kid had a 4.8 unweighted not *just* a 4.4 (yes some schools have fewer APs)?

This comes up every year, but it doesn't make it right. Kids above a certain bar should be admitted to the state's flagship university. They could set that bar. It shouldn't be a lottery, but something that parents (taxpayers) and kids can expect. If they want to limit the number of kids from certain schools, go with the top 10% like other states.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

I agree with you, but you don't have any recourse. This is just how it is with UMDCP.

The best thing to do is to share this information with parents with younger children. Sadly, our instate flagship is not easy to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

MCPS kids who get into top schools typically have more than 4 APs or was that just senior year? You are compared to the level of rigor available at your school which offers something like 12+

But not all colleges give credit for those type of classes taken during high school. UMD might but not every kid is trying to take 15 APs.

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

It sounds like the previous poster lives in Baltimore. Property taxes in the city are insane and the old houses aren't fuel efficient. But also, I would wager moco has more McMansions than all of Alabama combined. Lord.

That's not a Maryland problem, that is a Baltimore problem and you should know that when you buy there or move to the county.

I’m the original complainer and live in Moco. I’m not whining about the property taxes per se, yes we knew what they would be when we bought. But kids of tax paying parents with 4.4w/3.9uw and 4 ap classes senior year should get into umd.

Maybe another kid had a 4.8 unweighted not *just* a 4.4 (yes some schools have fewer APs)?

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Anonymous wrote:$400+ gas bills in winter, $600+ electric bills in summer, $15k a year in property taxes, crazy car registration fees, 3-4 soles trap mail in tickets per year, and my kid with a 4.4w/3.9 uw taking 4 aps senior year gets rejected. This state sucks.

You must have a huge house. Quit your griping and move to bama if you want a big cheap mcmansion. Our moco house is 3,000 sq ft and we pay $6k in property taxes, $200 in electric in hottest months and around $300 in gas in winter.

What kind if HVAC system do you have? What are your settings? Is it a 1500 sq ft with a 1500 sq ft basement? These numbeds don’t seem to jive with the people I talk to.

Oh geez take your housing concerns to the Homes forum. This is a thread for UMD decision results.

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Anonymous wrote:university system requires at least 70% of undergraduates be MD residents

Are about 18% from Montgomery county MD?

https://reports.umd.edu/tableaupublic/1824

Montgomery County accounts for 35.2% (8339/23635) of the undergraduate population at UMD, compared to only being 18% of the total population of Maryland. MoCo isn't being shorted with respect to attendance at UMD.

Now do it for kids with sats over 1500, or kids who got 5s on AP Calc BC. I bet McPS is being shortchanged with respect to high stats kids. Families in this state who care about education often move to McPS so we have a disproportionate number of highly qualified kids. We moved here from PG for instance.

If there are 85 kids all with the same stats and activities, they will only take so many from each school so going to a w school where your kids are just one of many is a disadvantage. We’ve said it for years. Why is it a surprise?

It’s not a surprise now because I’ve seen it for years but it’s certainly something I didn’t know when we moved here 15 years ago for the schools. I also just think it’s wrong when a state is taking many of its best students and telling them that they should go to a different state (and spend more) for college.