Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

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The dumbing down of education is most definitely coming from the left. The idea that kids should now only be assigned excerpts to read because they "couldn't possibly" manage to read entire books comes from the left. Our all-D school board advocates idiotic policies like this.

What do their republican counterparts think of science?

Nobody here thinks the Republicans care at all about education. They are only pointing out that the Democrats don’t care about education either. And for a lot of us in blue states, it is the Democrats who have made the education of our children measurably worse. I can’t say I care too much about education in Mississippi when my local deep blue Democratic school board has gutted advanced math and won’t let teachers assign complete books any more.

Then vote in a better school board. There are plenty of Democrats who would enact sensible education policies at the local level.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a moderate - voted for several republican presidents (but none since Bush 41) and find myself rooting for AOC and her type of progressive agenda.

It is clear whatever 'conservatism" has been in this country hasn't worked and now been completely hijacked by MAGA.

The country has been dragged so far right that the pendulum has to swing fairly hard to the left just to get us back near the center.

As a conservative, I disagree with this. MAGA are extremists, radicals. The opposite of conservative.

They have dragged the country, but not to the right. Just down.

+1

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

+1000
The dumbing down of education is most definitely coming from the left. The idea that kids should now only be assigned excerpts to read because they "couldn't possibly" manage to read entire books comes from the left. Our all-D school board advocates idiotic policies like this.

What do their republican counterparts think of science?

Nobody here thinks the Republicans care at all about education. They are only pointing out that the Democrats don’t care about education either. And for a lot of us in blue states, it is the Democrats who have made the education of our children measurably worse. I can’t say I care too much about education in Mississippi when my local deep blue Democratic school board has gutted advanced math and won’t let teachers assign complete books any more.

The MAHA report was written by AI and even the parts that are accurate reflect decades of deregulation in the science and food industry. Not the fault of Democrats only.

Wowzer. All this was going on under democrat FDA leadership. But MAGA is "anti-science".

Alarming facts about our food in the first MAHA Commission Report:

I encourage you to read the entire MAHA Commission report (1), but I put together some key takeaways from the report in a digestible format that is easy to share with your friends and family:

Roughly 70% of the over 300,000 branded food products in grocery stores are ultra-processed, many of which are designed to override satiety mechanisms and increase caloric intake.
Artificial food dyes, such as Red 40 are associated with behavioral issues in children, such as increased hyperactivity and symptoms consistent with ADHD.
Preliminary evidence suggests an association between artificial food dyes and autism, although further long-term research is necessary.
The artificial dye Titanium Dioxide may cause cellular and DNA damage.
The preservative BHT found in common snacks and cereals may be associated with tumor growth in rodent studies.
Artificial Sweeteners (like Aspartame and Sucralose) have been observed to interfere with the gut microbiome, linked to obesity, metabolic issues, and possibly glucose intolerance.
Aspartame is classified as “Possibly Carcinogenic” by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).
High fructose corn syrup and other ultraprocessed sugars may play a significant role in childhood obesity, type 2 diabetes, and nonalcoholic fatty liver disease.
Industrial refining of seed oils (e.g. soybean, corn, cottonseed, and canola) reduces nutrients – and these oils contribute to an imbalanced omega-6/omega-3 ratio, having a potential role in inflammation.
9 out of the last 10 FDA commissioners have gone on to work for the pharmaceutical industry.
95% of the 2020 Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee members had financial ties to food and pharma companies.
The food industry funds the bulk of research in the field – Some industry leaders have engaged in ghostwriting and sponsored reviews to influence the scientific literature, which mirrors tactics used by the tobacco industry to distort scientific consensus.
50% of non-industry research found a common pesticide harmful, compared to 18% of industry-funded studies.
Pesticides, microplastics, and dioxins are commonly found in the blood and urine of American children and pregnant women — some at alarming levels.
Studies have raised concerns about pesticides, herbicides, and insecticides and links to adverse health outcomes, especially in children, but human studies are limited.
Research studies on the herbicide Glyphosate noted possible effects ranging from reproductive and developmental disorders as well as cancers, liver inflammation and metabolic disturbances.
Exposure to the herbicide Atrazine can cause endocrine disruption and birth defects.
Over 75 % of American youth (aged 17-24) are ineligible for military service – primarily due to obesity, poor physical fitness, and/or mental health challenges.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Just desperately repeating talking points doesn’t do a lot to persuade people whose lived experiences teach them that Democrats care no more about
education than Republicans.

Repeating this over and over doesn’t make it true. You still haven’t refuted any of the points made.

Rs don’t believe in science


Red states are at the bottom in education.

Republicans do not want an educated public.

Ds = food pyramid
Rs = https://foodbabe.com/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Just desperately repeating talking points doesn’t do a lot to persuade people whose lived experiences teach them that Democrats care no more about
education than Republicans.

Repeating this over and over doesn’t make it true. You still haven’t refuted any of the points made.

Rs don’t believe in science


Red states are at the bottom in education.

Republicans do not want an educated public.

Two blue states are also at the bottom in education - New Mexico and Arizona. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

Republicans absolutely believe in science and want an educated public. They do not want an indoctrinated public.

RFK Jr believes in science??

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Just desperately repeating talking points doesn’t do a lot to persuade people whose lived experiences teach them that Democrats care no more about
education than Republicans.

Repeating this over and over doesn’t make it true. You still haven’t refuted any of the points made.

Rs don’t believe in science


Red states are at the bottom in education.

Republicans do not want an educated public.

Two blue states are also at the bottom in education - New Mexico and Arizona. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

Republicans absolutely believe in science and want an educated public. They do not want an indoctrinated public.

Anonymous wrote:Keeping books out of ES and MS is NOT banning books IMO. If you prevent them from being printed or published, that is banning books.

I agree - and Republicans have *never* tried to prevent any book from being printed, published, or sold. Liberals, otoh, were outraged when Target sold “Irreversible Damage” by Abigail Shrier and demanded they take it off their shelves - which Target did, temporarily.

Republicans simply don't want sexually explicit books in school libraries. Not sure how you can argue with that when you can easily borrow them from any public library or order them from Amazon to share with your kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Oh, please. No one is trying to "undermine universities." Ending the far-left indoctrination happening at many universities is what's at issue - especially when those schools take federal funds.
DP

Many of these schools do research. I guess if you get cancer you should not benefit from any of their research?

If you don’t like the schools don’t go and don’t send your kids there!

I sure do not agree with federal funds being used to pay masked individuals kidnapping people off the streets!

And I sure do not agree with federal funds being used to "educate" masked student activists who are allowed to harass and intimidate anyone who doesn't fall in line with their beliefs. Send your kids to schools which don't accept federal funds if that's how you think a college campus should be run.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

+1000
The dumbing down of education is most definitely coming from the left. The idea that kids should now only be assigned excerpts to read because they "couldn't possibly" manage to read entire books comes from the left. Our all-D school board advocates idiotic policies like this.

What do their republican counterparts think of science?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Just desperately repeating talking points doesn’t do a lot to persuade people whose lived experiences teach them that Democrats care no more about
education than Republicans.

Repeating this over and over doesn’t make it true. You still haven’t refuted any of the points made.

Rs don’t believe in science


Red states are at the bottom in education.

Republicans do not want an educated public.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Oh, please. No one is trying to "undermine universities." Ending the far-left indoctrination happening at many universities is what's at issue - especially when those schools take federal funds.
DP

Many of these schools do research. I guess if you get cancer you should not benefit from any of their research?

If you don’t like the schools don’t go and don’t send your kids there!

I sure do not agree with federal funds being used to pay masked individuals kidnapping people off the streets!

Keeping books out of ES and MS is NOT banning books IMO. If you prevent them from being printed or published, that is banning books.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not right wing. But where I live (deep blue state, deep blue district, deep blue school board) the only serious efforts at book banning have come from the left. There aren’t enough right-wingers here to even try it.

The left here has also tried to decimate rigor in education, kept the schools closed for far longer than necessary, enacted restorative justice that destroyed classroom discipline, and stopped having kids read whole books because whole books were too hard to understand.

I just can’t see the Democrats as the party of education any more.

Nope. Rs as a whole are trying to destroy education in this country so the electorate is
uneducated. They don’t believe in science and trying to undermine universities.

Why are red states at the bottom
in education?

Oh, please. No one is trying to "undermine universities." Ending the far-left indoctrination happening at many universities is what's at issue - especially when those schools take federal funds.
DP