Anonymous wrote:The truth is, every summer, when young kids have fun, swim well, and see older kids swimming exceptionally, they ask where they can swim during the winter. Some of our teams have winter swim options. OKM is five minutes from NCAP-Burke and 10 or 15 minutes from Mason Makos. Our team reps have swimmers on both teams. Does that mean they are recruiting to NCAP-Burke and Makos? No. Similarly, does that mean Kent Gardens is recruiting to Machine? No. Are Overlee and Chesterbrook recruiting to York? No. It just means we love where we swim, others are seeking a winter swim/club location, and they go where our kids already swim. Then they become great swimmers and the team gets better. Wash, rinse, repeat. And that’s the answer.

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, every summer, when young kids have fun, swim well, and see older kids swimming exceptionally, they ask where they can swim during the winter. Some of our teams have winter swim options. OKM is five minutes from NCAP-Burke and 10 or 15 minutes from Mason Makos. Our team reps have swimmers on both teams. Does that mean they are recruiting to NCAP-Burke and Makos? No. Similarly, does that mean Kent Gardens is recruiting to Machine? No. Are Overlee and Chesterbrook recruiting to York? No. It just means we love where we swim, others are seeking a winter swim/club location, and they go where our kids already swim. Then they become great swimmers and the team gets better. Wash, rinse, repeat. And that’s the answer.

Anonymous wrote:Kent Gardens definitely is . Rep kids swim for Machine and they recruit them to that pool and they are now D2.

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Anonymous wrote:Kent Gardens definitely is . Rep kids swim for Machine and they recruit them to that pool and they are now D2.

Is this a joke? Come on. If you look hard enough you’ll find conspiracies everywhere.

Also is there really anything wrong with the team rep trying to get kids to join? We are a very non competitive pool and you can only join if you live within the boundary so I have no dog in this fight but it seems obvious that a team rep would try to get their kids' friends to join the pool and swim with them in the summer.

Anonymous wrote:The truth is, every summer, when young kids have fun, swim well, and see older kids swimming exceptionally, they ask where they can swim during the winter. Some of our teams have winter swim options. OKM is five minutes from NCAP-Burke and 10 or 15 minutes from Mason Makos. Our team reps have swimmers on both teams. Does that mean they are recruiting to NCAP-Burke and Makos? No. Similarly, does that mean Kent Gardens is recruiting to Machine? No. Are Overlee and Chesterbrook recruiting to York? No. It just means we love where we swim, others are seeking a winter swim/club location, and they go where our kids already swim. Then they become great swimmers and the team gets better. Wash, rinse, repeat. And that’s the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Kent Gardens definitely is . Rep kids swim for Machine and they recruit them to that pool and they are now D2.

Is this a joke? Come on. If you look hard enough you’ll find conspiracies everywhere.

Anonymous wrote:Kent Gardens definitely is . Rep kids swim for Machine and they recruit them to that pool and they are now D2.

Anonymous wrote:OKM recruits-and everyone knows it. You don’t go from Div 15 to 1 in 8 years with local neighborhood talent. But hey, enjoy another year of 0-5 in D1.

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Anonymous wrote:OKM recruits-and everyone knows it. You don’t go from Div 15 to 1 in 8 years with local neighborhood talent. But hey, enjoy another year of 0-5 in D1.

Many years ago we swam against Sideburn Run. It had moved up like 7 spaces to Division 3 or 4 very quickly. It was a small team, but did have some large swim families move over from Fairfax. All it takes is 1-2 swim families with lots of fast kids spread across all the age groups to make a points difference. Then, when those kids graduate or leave, the team sinks and moves back down.

Also, teams like OKM and Sideburn and Fairfax Station are not neighborhood pools, per se. Swimmers come from neighborhoods close by. (This is different than South Run and Little Rocky Run, which do not allow people outside the neighborhood.) Our family doesn’t live in a neighborhood, so we drive to a pool. Does that mean our pool recruits? No. But it does allow those of us without any neighborhood/HOA options to join pools.

Burke/Springfield/Fairfax/Fairfax Station are heavily military. You’ll see a lot of kids pop up on teams in these areas but similarly see good swimmers vanish from these teams (and from NVSL) due to PCS. Our team will lose 4-5 club swimmers (maybe more) in 2026 due to PCS.

Further, by your account, LRR should not be consistently good year to year because it only allows swimmers from the neighborhood. Yet it is a very good D3/D2 team year to year.

Stop with the unfounded allegations of recruitment. It’s stupid and conflates people choosing to join a nearby pool with going out and offering membership to specific swimmers who live nowhere near the pool.

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Anonymous wrote:OKM recruits-and everyone knows it. You don’t go from Div 15 to 1 in 8 years with local neighborhood talent. But hey, enjoy another year of 0-5 in D1.

Many years ago we swam against Sideburn Run. It had moved up like 7 spaces to Division 3 or 4 very quickly. It was a small team, but did have some large swim families move over from Fairfax. All it takes is 1-2 swim families with lots of fast kids spread across all the age groups to make a points difference. Then, when those kids graduate or leave, the team sinks and moves back down.

Also, teams like OKM and Sideburn and Fairfax Station are not neighborhood pools, per se. Swimmers come from neighborhoods close by. (This is different than South Run and Little Rocky Run, which do not allow people outside the neighborhood.) Our family doesn’t live in a neighborhood, so we drive to a pool. Does that mean our pool recruits? No. But it does allow those of us without any neighborhood/HOA options to join pools.

Burke/Springfield/Fairfax/Fairfax Station are heavily military. You’ll see a lot of kids pop up on teams in these areas but similarly see good swimmers vanish from these teams (and from NVSL) due to PCS. Our team will lose 4-5 club swimmers (maybe more) in 2026 due to PCS.

Further, by your account, LRR should not be consistently good year to year because it only allows swimmers from the neighborhood. Yet it is a very good D3/D2 team year to year.

Stop with the unfounded allegations of recruitment. It’s stupid and conflates people choosing to join a nearby pool with going out and offering membership to specific swimmers who live nowhere near the pool.

What is Pcs ?

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Anonymous wrote:OKM recruits-and everyone knows it. You don’t go from Div 15 to 1 in 8 years with local neighborhood talent. But hey, enjoy another year of 0-5 in D1.

Many years ago we swam against Sideburn Run. It had moved up like 7 spaces to Division 3 or 4 very quickly. It was a small team, but did have some large swim families move over from Fairfax. All it takes is 1-2 swim families with lots of fast kids spread across all the age groups to make a points difference. Then, when those kids graduate or leave, the team sinks and moves back down.

Also, teams like OKM and Sideburn and Fairfax Station are not neighborhood pools, per se. Swimmers come from neighborhoods close by. (This is different than South Run and Little Rocky Run, which do not allow people outside the neighborhood.) Our family doesn’t live in a neighborhood, so we drive to a pool. Does that mean our pool recruits? No. But it does allow those of us without any neighborhood/HOA options to join pools.

Burke/Springfield/Fairfax/Fairfax Station are heavily military. You’ll see a lot of kids pop up on teams in these areas but similarly see good swimmers vanish from these teams (and from NVSL) due to PCS. Our team will lose 4-5 club swimmers (maybe more) in 2026 due to PCS.

Further, by your account, LRR should not be consistently good year to year because it only allows swimmers from the neighborhood. Yet it is a very good D3/D2 team year to year.

Stop with the unfounded allegations of recruitment. It’s stupid and conflates people choosing to join a nearby pool with going out and offering membership to specific swimmers who live nowhere near the pool.

What is Pcs ?

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Anonymous wrote:OKM recruits-and everyone knows it. You don’t go from Div 15 to 1 in 8 years with local neighborhood talent. But hey, enjoy another year of 0-5 in D1.

Many years ago we swam against Sideburn Run. It had moved up like 7 spaces to Division 3 or 4 very quickly. It was a small team, but did have some large swim families move over from Fairfax. All it takes is 1-2 swim families with lots of fast kids spread across all the age groups to make a points difference. Then, when those kids graduate or leave, the team sinks and moves back down.

Also, teams like OKM and Sideburn and Fairfax Station are not neighborhood pools, per se. Swimmers come from neighborhoods close by. (This is different than South Run and Little Rocky Run, which do not allow people outside the neighborhood.) Our family doesn’t live in a neighborhood, so we drive to a pool. Does that mean our pool recruits? No. But it does allow those of us without any neighborhood/HOA options to join pools.

Burke/Springfield/Fairfax/Fairfax Station are heavily military. You’ll see a lot of kids pop up on teams in these areas but similarly see good swimmers vanish from these teams (and from NVSL) due to PCS. Our team will lose 4-5 club swimmers (maybe more) in 2026 due to PCS.

Further, by your account, LRR should not be consistently good year to year because it only allows swimmers from the neighborhood. Yet it is a very good D3/D2 team year to year.

Stop with the unfounded allegations of recruitment. It’s stupid and conflates people choosing to join a nearby pool with going out and offering membership to specific swimmers who live nowhere near the pool.

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Anonymous wrote:My favorite summer swim story is when my 7 year old daughter — who attended every single practice and swam every single B meet — got excited about getting a trophy at the end of summer banquet. And then they only gave trophies to A meet swimmers.

She said to me that night, “I guess I wasn’t good enough for a trophy.” 😢

Well, she’s correct.

I assume this was meant to be inflammatory, but it makes zero sense that random A meet swimmers get a trophy and B meet swimmers don’t. Either give high point or give to all swimmers across the board. These are kids this is a recreational swim league I’m not a big participation trophy person but this is 100% the place for it. Kids going to practice daily should get acknowledged for their efforts. Especially the little kids who are the ones who improve by leaps and bounds through the summer.

Ours does medals for all and high point trophy for division.

OP said she wasn't sure, but thought everyone who scored a point (finished 1-2-3 in an A meet) got a trophy. That's an earned thing, not a participation trophy for some but not all.

I’m awards lady from previous post.

Kids that swim in A meets and place 1-2-3 get ribbons. Why do they also need a trophy too? That’s ridiculous in my opinion.

This is true, plus they get medals if they place top six at relay divisionals, relay all stars, individual divisionals, and/or all stars, so they don’t need anything more than that. Save the trophy for the kids who make great progress but do not swim in these meets (or for the kids that started as a B meet swimmer and moved into A meets by hard work and grit).