What a ridiculous thread. Park Sloper here with a $400K HHI raising 2 kids, public schools, loving our life despite living in a small two bedroom apartment. I'm sure we'd be happy in a dense suburb, also, but our jobs are tied to this location and we have a great work-life balance. "Where the action is" and "prestige" are not our priorities right now, and we head into Manhattan with our kids a handful of times per year (I commute to lower Manhattan every day). But there's tons to do locally and further afield in Brooklyn. How do we spend our weekends? Like many, in parks, playgrounds, at sports practices, and also at the beach (you can take a subway to Coney Island in under 30 mins!) at the BK botanic garden, the prospect park zoo, the library, restaurants, open streets every Saturday May-October, and so on. We're high enough income to be able to afford "whatever we want" around here. There is so much to do for free or low cost in NYC, when people talk about the HCOL they're really just talking about real estate. The OP on this thread and so many people responding are incredibly out of touch with what life is like - or what like can be like - raising a family in Brooklyn.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but this is so stupid and out of touch.

Not really. It’s good insight into what an upper middle class life in NYC looks like and the decisions that demographic has to make. I found a lot of it edifying.

Upper middle class! This is also stupid and out of touch.

This is in NYC...they can't afford an above average sized condo on that income

In a decent neighborhood, no she cannot. Carroll Gardens is already far from the action and not that expensive per square foot. She'd have to go to Bed-Stuy or Astoria to get the cost down and those are non-starters for most people in her position.

Curious, what “action” do you think a family with three small kids is looking for? They live in a safe and convenient family neighborhood with a very easy commute to downtown Manhattan.

If you don’t want “action” then why be in the city? Go move to Westchester.

So you think all the action is … on the UES?

A lot more so than Carroll Gardens. Add in Tribeca, UWS for the arts, East Village

Carroll Gardens is 5 subway stops to Tribeca. 4 to Lower East Side, 5-6 to East Village - direct train. You won’t get there faster from UES.

More people work in Midtown than FiDi. Someone with three children isn't going to the LES or having a boozy brunch at Bubbys. UES is more convenient and has central park close by.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she needs a Classic Six on the UWS … the baby can go in the maid’s room, then the oldest kid or only boy/girl can get it permanently.

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On West End Ave.

It is okay there. Between the Park and Riverside can get grotty and seedy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but this is so stupid and out of touch.

Not really. It’s good insight into what an upper middle class life in NYC looks like and the decisions that demographic has to make. I found a lot of it edifying.

Upper middle class! This is also stupid and out of touch.

This is in NYC...they can't afford an above average sized condo on that income

In a decent neighborhood, no she cannot. Carroll Gardens is already far from the action and not that expensive per square foot. She'd have to go to Bed-Stuy or Astoria to get the cost down and those are non-starters for most people in her position.

Curious, what “action” do you think a family with three small kids is looking for? They live in a safe and convenient family neighborhood with a very easy commute to downtown Manhattan.

If you don’t want “action” then why be in the city? Go move to Westchester.

So you think all the action is … on the UES?

A lot more so than Carroll Gardens. Add in Tribeca, UWS for the arts, East Village

Carroll Gardens is 5 subway stops to Tribeca. 4 to Lower East Side, 5-6 to East Village - direct train. You won’t get there faster from UES.

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like she needs a Classic Six on the UWS … the baby can go in the maid’s room, then the oldest kid or only boy/girl can get it permanently.

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On West End Ave.

Sounds like she needs a Classic Six on the UWS … the baby can go in the maid’s room, then the oldest kid or only boy/girl can get it permanently.

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Anonymous wrote:$5900 for a 2 bed in Carroll Gardens is a pretty good deal. People on DCUM don't understand how crazy NY has gotten.

Blink twice to tell us you’re okay

People in NYC are delusional if 5900 to live in a mid neighborhood is a deal.

Most people nowadays would not call it a "mid neighborhood". It really depends on what stage of life you are in. But brooklyn is hot, its amazing especially if you have kids, and its absurdly overpriced now. A "nice" 2 bedroom, which I define as a 2 bed that is like, 900 sq feet, with a dishwasher and in-unit laundry, that is NOT on garden level, within a ten minute walk of the subway, is easily $6.5-7K now. UWS is cheaper than Brooklyn now.

With enough money you can raise a family in a nice environment in WV. There are so many better options than Carroll gardens in Manhattan and BK. UWS is more prestigious ( there is CPW and Riverside Drive

Honestly stop blathering. I don’t know a single actual New Yorker who talks like you do about neighborhoods.

New Yorkers (like myself) don’t have such an idiosyncratic syntax and vocabulary that this is out of the ordinary. And you’d have to live under a rock to think a CPW isn’t more prestigious than anything Carroll Gardens has to offer

Nobody cares dude.

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Anonymous wrote:$5900 for a 2 bed in Carroll Gardens is a pretty good deal. People on DCUM don't understand how crazy NY has gotten.

Blink twice to tell us you’re okay

People in NYC are delusional if 5900 to live in a mid neighborhood is a deal.

Most people nowadays would not call it a "mid neighborhood". It really depends on what stage of life you are in. But brooklyn is hot, its amazing especially if you have kids, and its absurdly overpriced now. A "nice" 2 bedroom, which I define as a 2 bed that is like, 900 sq feet, with a dishwasher and in-unit laundry, that is NOT on garden level, within a ten minute walk of the subway, is easily $6.5-7K now. UWS is cheaper than Brooklyn now.

With enough money you can raise a family in a nice environment in WV. There are so many better options than Carroll gardens in Manhattan and BK. UWS is more prestigious ( there is CPW and Riverside Drive

Honestly stop blathering. I don’t know a single actual New Yorker who talks like you do about neighborhoods.

New Yorkers (like myself) don’t have such an idiosyncratic syntax and vocabulary that this is out of the ordinary. And you’d have to live under a rock to think a CPW isn’t more prestigious than anything Carroll Gardens has to offer

Who in the right mind has 3 kids in the city?! I grew up in Paris and people have one, max 2. WIth 3, you move outside the city and commute.

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Anonymous wrote:$5900 for a 2 bed in Carroll Gardens is a pretty good deal. People on DCUM don't understand how crazy NY has gotten.

Blink twice to tell us you’re okay

People in NYC are delusional if 5900 to live in a mid neighborhood is a deal.

Most people nowadays would not call it a "mid neighborhood". It really depends on what stage of life you are in. But brooklyn is hot, its amazing especially if you have kids, and its absurdly overpriced now. A "nice" 2 bedroom, which I define as a 2 bed that is like, 900 sq feet, with a dishwasher and in-unit laundry, that is NOT on garden level, within a ten minute walk of the subway, is easily $6.5-7K now. UWS is cheaper than Brooklyn now.

With enough money you can raise a family in a nice environment in WV. There are so many better options than Carroll gardens in Manhattan and BK. UWS is more prestigious ( there is CPW and Riverside Drive

Honestly stop blathering. I don’t know a single actual New Yorker who talks like you do about neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but this is so stupid and out of touch.

Not really. It’s good insight into what an upper middle class life in NYC looks like and the decisions that demographic has to make. I found a lot of it edifying.

Upper middle class! This is also stupid and out of touch.

This is in NYC...they can't afford an above average sized condo on that income

In a decent neighborhood, no she cannot. Carroll Gardens is already far from the action and not that expensive per square foot. She'd have to go to Bed-Stuy or Astoria to get the cost down and those are non-starters for most people in her position.

Curious, what “action” do you think a family with three small kids is looking for? They live in a safe and convenient family neighborhood with a very easy commute to downtown Manhattan.

If you don’t want “action” then why be in the city? Go move to Westchester.

So you think all the action is … on the UES?

A lot more so than Carroll Gardens. Add in Tribeca, UWS for the arts, East Village

Ok bro 😎

If the east village and Tribeca don’t meet your standards, what does

I lived in the East Village among several other neighborhoods. It’s fun but not the best for the stage of life with 3 kids. I’m guessing you lived in NYC for a summer internship or something.

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Anonymous wrote:$5900 for a 2 bed in Carroll Gardens is a pretty good deal. People on DCUM don't understand how crazy NY has gotten.

Blink twice to tell us you’re okay

People in NYC are delusional if 5900 to live in a mid neighborhood is a deal.

Most people nowadays would not call it a "mid neighborhood". It really depends on what stage of life you are in. But brooklyn is hot, its amazing especially if you have kids, and its absurdly overpriced now. A "nice" 2 bedroom, which I define as a 2 bed that is like, 900 sq feet, with a dishwasher and in-unit laundry, that is NOT on garden level, within a ten minute walk of the subway, is easily $6.5-7K now. UWS is cheaper than Brooklyn now.

With enough money you can raise a family in a nice environment in WV. There are so many better options than Carroll gardens in Manhattan and BK. UWS is more prestigious ( there is CPW and Riverside Drive

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but this is so stupid and out of touch.

Not really. It’s good insight into what an upper middle class life in NYC looks like and the decisions that demographic has to make. I found a lot of it edifying.

Upper middle class! This is also stupid and out of touch.

This is in NYC...they can't afford an above average sized condo on that income

In a decent neighborhood, no she cannot. Carroll Gardens is already far from the action and not that expensive per square foot. She'd have to go to Bed-Stuy or Astoria to get the cost down and those are non-starters for most people in her position.

Curious, what “action” do you think a family with three small kids is looking for? They live in a safe and convenient family neighborhood with a very easy commute to downtown Manhattan.

If you don’t want “action” then why be in the city? Go move to Westchester.

So you think all the action is … on the UES?

A lot more so than Carroll Gardens. Add in Tribeca, UWS for the arts, East Village

Ok bro 😎

If the east village and Tribeca don’t meet your standards, what does

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Anonymous wrote:$5900 for a 2 bed in Carroll Gardens is a pretty good deal. People on DCUM don't understand how crazy NY has gotten.

Blink twice to tell us you’re okay

People in NYC are delusional if 5900 to live in a mid neighborhood is a deal.

Most people nowadays would not call it a "mid neighborhood". It really depends on what stage of life you are in. But brooklyn is hot, its amazing especially if you have kids, and its absurdly overpriced now. A "nice" 2 bedroom, which I define as a 2 bed that is like, 900 sq feet, with a dishwasher and in-unit laundry, that is NOT on garden level, within a ten minute walk of the subway, is easily $6.5-7K now. UWS is cheaper than Brooklyn now.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry but this is so stupid and out of touch.

Not really. It’s good insight into what an upper middle class life in NYC looks like and the decisions that demographic has to make. I found a lot of it edifying.

Upper middle class! This is also stupid and out of touch.

This is in NYC...they can't afford an above average sized condo on that income

In a decent neighborhood, no she cannot. Carroll Gardens is already far from the action and not that expensive per square foot. She'd have to go to Bed-Stuy or Astoria to get the cost down and those are non-starters for most people in her position.

Curious, what “action” do you think a family with three small kids is looking for? They live in a safe and convenient family neighborhood with a very easy commute to downtown Manhattan.

If you don’t want “action” then why be in the city? Go move to Westchester.

So you think all the action is … on the UES?

A lot more so than Carroll Gardens. Add in Tribeca, UWS for the arts, East Village

Ok bro 😎