Anonymous
05/21/2025 21:48
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:White South Africans must be returned to SA to atone for the systemic white racism they created, and which still haunts SA to this very day.
You don’t get to have your GGGGGGGrandparent ancestors colonize, subjugate the local people, ignore their suffering, establish systemic discrimination as armor, pillage the natural resources, and then whine and claim discrimination and woe is me, I am being attacked I’m a victim, when the tables are turned centuries later. Work it out and live with the locals or try to immigrate legally to another country without embarrassing yourselves by claiming refugee status, even if it’s offered by a charlatan.
These farmers haven't done anything. They are making a living according to the system in place. If the system changes and it is damaging to their livelihood, they have a right to either find a new home or fight back. And I give the same answer no matter the race or sex. No one has to shut up and sit down based on what happened when they were kids.
However, I don't think that they should be the exception to a closed asylum system. Historically, plenty of people got through the asylum process claiming legitimate fear, objectively verifiable or not. Maybe we should audit all prior asylum approvals.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 21:12
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The white farmers supply most of the food. That could turn into a famine.
They don't produce food out of thin air.
The land is still there, so the people that remain can farm.
Study history and you will see what happens when unskilled farmers take over. Mass famine! Think don’t be reactionary.
I’m going to go out on a limb and guess the people actually working the fields are not the white people who own all the land. I bet they have help working the fields. And I bet that help is black. I’m quite sure they know what they’re doing.
Field bands aren't farmers. Even when you have knowledgeable field bands, they are removed from most of the decisionmaking. The PP is correct. The bread basket of Africa and all.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 21:00
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
We should take over South Africa to save the people from genocide and tyranny
Anonymous
05/21/2025 17:11
Subject: Re:Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:oops. This wasn't supposed to get out.
https://x.com/charliespiering/status/1925231229856547083
What’s wrong with encouraging people to kill white farmers?
Anonymous
05/21/2025 16:37
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just listened to the press conference of Trump and the SA president and was impressed how the latter was able to calmly but firmly refute Trump’s BS. Trump looked like an ignorant manipulated idiot as usual.
Oh really?
Hmm:
“EFF leader Julius Malema's trademark song is "Shoot the Boer, Shoot the farmer", which he sings at political rallies.
Afrikaner lobby groups have tried to get the song banned, saying it was highly inflammatory and amounted to hate speech.
However, South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal has ruled that Malema is within his rights to sing the lyrics - first popularised during the anti-apartheid struggle - at political rallies.
The court ruled that a "reasonably well-informed person" would understand that when "protest songs are sung, even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence".
Instead, the song was a "provocative way" of advancing the EFF's political agenda - which was to end "land and economic injustice".
Lobby group AfriForum filed an appeal against the ruling, but South Africa's highest court refused to hear the case, saying it had little chance of succeeding.
In 2023, South Africa's former President Thabo Mbeki urged Malema to stop singing the song, saying it was no longer politically relevant as the anti-apartheid struggle was over.
The ANC says it no longer sings it, but it cannot "prescribe to other political parties what they must sing".
Yes really. You should watch the video of the press conference so you can see how the SA president addressed this issue (and the agriculture minister, who is white and from an opposition party). All the while Trump kept mumbling like an idiot “but they are taking the land” with the president repeating no land has been taken, and even the US can seize land for public interest.
Funny that the J6 rioters chanting “hang Mike Pence” were just peaceful tourists singing a happy song. We are even going to pay $5M as taxpayers to the family of the idiot who broke the window of the barricaded door to actually get to Pence. Songs apparently have different value depending on who sings them
Anonymous
05/21/2025 16:22
Subject: Re:Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous
05/21/2025 16:11
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just listened to the press conference of Trump and the SA president and was impressed how the latter was able to calmly but firmly refute Trump’s BS. Trump looked like an ignorant manipulated idiot as usual.
Oh really?
Hmm:
“EFF leader Julius Malema's trademark song is "Shoot the Boer, Shoot the farmer", which he sings at political rallies.
Afrikaner lobby groups have tried to get the song banned, saying it was highly inflammatory and amounted to hate speech.
However, South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal has ruled that Malema is within his rights to sing the lyrics - first popularised during the anti-apartheid struggle - at political rallies.
The court ruled that a "reasonably well-informed person" would understand that when "protest songs are sung, even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence".
Instead, the song was a "provocative way" of advancing the EFF's political agenda - which was to end "land and economic injustice".
Lobby group AfriForum filed an appeal against the ruling, but South Africa's highest court refused to hear the case, saying it had little chance of succeeding.
In 2023, South Africa's former President Thabo Mbeki urged Malema to stop singing the song, saying it was no longer politically relevant as the anti-apartheid struggle was over.
The ANC says it no longer sings it, but it cannot "prescribe to other political parties what they must sing".
DP
Did you watch? An old man forcing a guest to look at printed out Facebook shares and watch reels. It was embarrassing to watch.
The MAGAs are all applauding Trump. He’s so brave. He really showed South Africa! Meanwhile Elon is watching the whole thing go down. And it’s really about Starlink not being able to get set up in SA. Not bc Elon is white (which is what he claims), but bc he doesn’t want to follow the rules to get Starlink set up. It’s not about the poor white farmers, people. Magas just believe any BS Trump feeds them.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 15:31
Subject: Re:Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I suppose reasonable minds can different on the meaning of “from the river to the sea.”
However, “shoot the farmer,” appears to mean: “shoot the farmer.”
EFF is the 4th largest party in SA.
It is a song from apartheid times. Nelson Mandela has sung it as well.
The EFF is currently the 4th largest party in SA.
The EFF party promises to expropriate white-owned farmland, nationalize the mining and banking sectors, double welfare grants and the minimum wage, tackle all corruption, provide quality social housing, and provide free primary healthcare and education for all, as well as proposing to end the proposed toll system for highways.
The EFF "draws inspiration from the broad Marxist–Leninist tradition and Fanonian schools of thought in their analyses of the state, imperialism, culture and class contradictions in every society", according to its constitution. The EFF states that it takes inspiration from Burkinabé President Thomas Sankara in terms of both style and Marxist ideology. Prominent EFF member Jackie Shandu declared the party a "proudly Sankarist formation".
Anonymous
05/21/2025 15:17
Subject: Re:Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:I suppose reasonable minds can different on the meaning of “from the river to the sea.”
However, “shoot the farmer,” appears to mean: “shoot the farmer.”
EFF is the 4th largest party in SA.
It is a song from apartheid times. Nelson Mandela has sung it as well.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 15:11
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just listened to the press conference of Trump and the SA president and was impressed how the latter was able to calmly but firmly refute Trump’s BS. Trump looked like an ignorant manipulated idiot as usual.
Oh really?
Hmm:
“EFF leader Julius Malema's trademark song is "Shoot the Boer, Shoot the farmer", which he sings at political rallies.
Afrikaner lobby groups have tried to get the song banned, saying it was highly inflammatory and amounted to hate speech.
However, South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal has ruled that Malema is within his rights to sing the lyrics - first popularised during the anti-apartheid struggle - at political rallies.
The court ruled that a "reasonably well-informed person" would understand that when "protest songs are sung, even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence".
Instead, the song was a "provocative way" of advancing the EFF's political agenda - which was to end "land and economic injustice".
Lobby group AfriForum filed an appeal against the ruling, but South Africa's highest court refused to hear the case, saying it had little chance of succeeding.
In 2023, South Africa's former President Thabo Mbeki urged Malema to stop singing the song, saying it was no longer politically relevant as the anti-apartheid struggle was over.
The ANC says it no longer sings it, but it cannot "prescribe to other political parties what they must sing".
DP
Did you watch? An old man forcing a guest to look at printed out Facebook shares and watch reels. It was embarrassing to watch.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 14:54
Subject: Re:Trump does like Some immigrants
I suppose reasonable minds can different on the meaning of “from the river to the sea.”
However, “shoot the farmer,” appears to mean: “shoot the farmer.”
EFF is the 4th largest party in SA.
However, “shoot the farmer,” appears to mean: “shoot the farmer.”
EFF is the 4th largest party in SA.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 14:52
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:I just listened to the press conference of Trump and the SA president and was impressed how the latter was able to calmly but firmly refute Trump’s BS. Trump looked like an ignorant manipulated idiot as usual.
Oh really?
Hmm:
“EFF leader Julius Malema's trademark song is "Shoot the Boer, Shoot the farmer", which he sings at political rallies.
Afrikaner lobby groups have tried to get the song banned, saying it was highly inflammatory and amounted to hate speech.
However, South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal has ruled that Malema is within his rights to sing the lyrics - first popularised during the anti-apartheid struggle - at political rallies.
The court ruled that a "reasonably well-informed person" would understand that when "protest songs are sung, even by politicians, the words are not meant to be understood literally, nor is the gesture of shooting to be understood as a call to arms or violence".
Instead, the song was a "provocative way" of advancing the EFF's political agenda - which was to end "land and economic injustice".
Lobby group AfriForum filed an appeal against the ruling, but South Africa's highest court refused to hear the case, saying it had little chance of succeeding.
In 2023, South Africa's former President Thabo Mbeki urged Malema to stop singing the song, saying it was no longer politically relevant as the anti-apartheid struggle was over.
The ANC says it no longer sings it, but it cannot "prescribe to other political parties what they must sing".
Anonymous
05/21/2025 14:13
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Fascinating podcast on this from a day or two ago (on The Daily). Really breaks down what happened with these racist white Afrikanners.
what happened?
Anonymous
05/21/2025 14:11
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Fascinating podcast on this from a day or two ago (on The Daily). Really breaks down what happened with these racist white Afrikanners.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 14:11
Subject: Trump does like Some immigrants
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Trump signed an executive order — prioritizing resettlement services for white South Africans. Yup. Just the white ones.
The Afrikaners.
https://austinkocher.substack.com/p/saying-the-thing-out-loud-trumps
of course Trump loves some immigrants - he loves the LEGAL ones, and so do I!
+1
legal immigrants = good for America
illegal immigrants = bad for America
this is something that we all can agree on!
He (and you) like the white South African "legal" immigrants, but not the darker skinned "legal" immigrants from countries like Haiti.
you and he are racist... this is something we can all agree on.