Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 22:20     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Biden should have returned the gov to pre-COVID TW and enforced it and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead he let agencies take different approaches which then invited scrutiny and here we are. Swung completely in the other direction with TW eliminated (except situational so we can keep working when it snows). it was nice while it lasted but now we’re paying the price. He should have come down harder on it.


Should not have promoted closing schools for so long so parents had to stay home …


What schools were closed during the Biden administration?


MCPS


MCPS re-opened a month or two after Biden was inaugurated. The closures were during the Trump administration.


How’s your head with all that spin?


Why are you so invested in denying reality?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 21:19     Subject: RTO EO is up
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Anonymous wrote:Despite talking about Remote Work Agreements, this EO by its terms only affects teleworkers. Remote Workers' houses are their duty stations; they *do* work there in person. It's teleworkers who don't.


The EO orders agencies to terminate remote work agreements. Then send everyone, all employees, RTO. There will be no remote workers or home work stations.


I’m not so sure. Where they want to be punitive they will be, but my office has hired a bunch of remote workers in recent years, in an area where I think this admin is still going to have a lot of work. These people aren’t moving to DC. They’d quit and would be able to get other jobs. I don’t know that I see them being cut loose (and they are really excellent hires with tremendous productivity)
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 21:14     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden should have returned the gov to pre-COVID TW and enforced it and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead he let agencies take different approaches which then invited scrutiny and here we are. Swung completely in the other direction with TW eliminated (except situational so we can keep working when it snows). it was nice while it lasted but now we’re paying the price. He should have come down harder on it.


Should not have promoted closing schools for so long so parents had to stay home …


What schools were closed during the Biden administration?


MCPS


MCPS re-opened a month or two after Biden was inaugurated. The closures were during the Trump administration.


How’s your head with all that spin?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 21:12     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden should have returned the gov to pre-COVID TW and enforced it and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead he let agencies take different approaches which then invited scrutiny and here we are. Swung completely in the other direction with TW eliminated (except situational so we can keep working when it snows). it was nice while it lasted but now we’re paying the price. He should have come down harder on it.


Should not have promoted closing schools for so long so parents had to stay home …


What schools were closed during the Biden administration?


MCPS


MCPS re-opened a month or two after Biden was inaugurated. The closures were during the Trump administration.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 21:10     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal is reporting Trump plans to have GAO sell 2/3s of the government’s office stock. Sell to who I wonder? https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/the-u-s-government-has-a-landlord-and-trump-isnt-a-fan-872c469e?mod=mhp

But this is about getting people back in the office to make them productive.


GSA (not GAO)


Kleptocracy
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 21:05     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.


You will be out very quickly under failure to follow instructions. 3-6 months tops.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 21:04     Subject: Re:RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:OPM tomorrow:

"We trust that the Executive Branch knows the difference between remote work and telework, and also that they know that remote workers' duty stations are their homes. As such we interpret this EO to refer to just remote workers, and it requires remote workers to maintain their home duty stations."


Do you think Trump is that dumb.
His nominee to lead OPM is someone who shares his vision for restructuring the feds.
He will fire him if he doesn’t implement RTO. So will the heads of all agencies who refuse to follow the EO.


I think you overestimate how much he cares. He just wants to look like he did something.


If he didn’t care he would not have appointed someone who shares that vision. The new head of the OPM will care, Elon and Vivek will care. That is enough to push this through.


Vivek has already moved on. He's not doing DOGE any more.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:59     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden should have returned the gov to pre-COVID TW and enforced it and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead he let agencies take different approaches which then invited scrutiny and here we are. Swung completely in the other direction with TW eliminated (except situational so we can keep working when it snows). it was nice while it lasted but now we’re paying the price. He should have come down harder on it.


Huh? Our agency has already been working under more restrictive telework policies than what we had before covid.


Yours may have but others have not and have implemented more liberal policies, hence the scrutiny by Congress that led this.


This was an executive action by Trump, not Congress.


Congress held hearings on this issue and had been drumming up support for strict RTO loooong before Trump issued this EO. He used the inaccurate data cited by R’s in Congress that only 6% of Feds are in person. Trump didn’t just imagine up this EO on his own.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:59     Subject: Re:RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OPM tomorrow:

"We trust that the Executive Branch knows the difference between remote work and telework, and also that they know that remote workers' duty stations are their homes. As such we interpret this EO to refer to just remote workers, and it requires remote workers to maintain their home duty stations."


Do you think Trump is that dumb.
His nominee to lead OPM is someone who shares his vision for restructuring the feds.
He will fire him if he doesn’t implement RTO. So will the heads of all agencies who refuse to follow the EO.


I think you overestimate how much he cares. He just wants to look like he did something.


If he didn’t care he would not have appointed someone who shares that vision. The new head of the OPM will care, Elon and Vivek will care. That is enough to push this through.


lol Vivek lasted less than one Scaramucci. Do try to keep up.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:56     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal is reporting Trump plans to have GAO sell 2/3s of the government’s office stock. Sell to who I wonder? https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/the-u-s-government-has-a-landlord-and-trump-isnt-a-fan-872c469e?mod=mhp

But this is about getting people back in the office to make them productive.


GSA (not GAO)
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:50     Subject: Re:RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OPM tomorrow:

"We trust that the Executive Branch knows the difference between remote work and telework, and also that they know that remote workers' duty stations are their homes. As such we interpret this EO to refer to just remote workers, and it requires remote workers to maintain their home duty stations."


Do you think Trump is that dumb.
His nominee to lead OPM is someone who shares his vision for restructuring the feds.
He will fire him if he doesn’t implement RTO. So will the heads of all agencies who refuse to follow the EO.


I think you overestimate how much he cares. He just wants to look like he did something.


If he didn’t care he would not have appointed someone who shares that vision. The new head of the OPM will care, Elon and Vivek will care. That is enough to push this through.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:46     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.


Please report back and let us know how that works out for you!
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:45     Subject: RTO EO is up
Our agency hasn’t given us any guidance but we don’t have room for everyone. What are people doing - starting to go in every day even without any instructions? Or just waiting to hear from management and continuing to telework?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:44     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:If I’m told to RTO 5 days a week I will go in 2 days a week and wait for any repercussions. Good luck trying to fire me before 2028.


You are the exact profile of government employee that America loves
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2025 20:41     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Despite talking about Remote Work Agreements, this EO by its terms only affects teleworkers. Remote Workers' houses are their duty stations; they *do* work there in person. It's teleworkers who don't.


The EO orders agencies to terminate remote work agreements. Then send everyone, all employees, RTO. There will be no remote workers or home work stations.


Where are agencies going to get the money for relocation and office space?