Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 13:38     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote:All you people complaining about this.. you are reaching out to Trump on social media, right?


Trump doesn't care about the morons that elected him. He cares only about his sugar daddy Melon.


Trump is following President-elect Elon's orders. Trump is bought and paid for - time to follow through.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 11:41     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Just wait til all the MAGAs with giant weapons caches, like the one in Virginia, figure out what they really voted for.
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 10:21     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Anonymous wrote:Trump: “we need a lot of people coming in.” LOL.


MAGA!!!
Anonymous
Post 01/01/2025 09:24     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Trump: “we need a lot of people coming in.” LOL.

Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 22:56     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote: Sixty minutes should do an expose of American firms that prefer H1-B immigrants over US citizens because they are 50% cheaper. Nothing like screwing your own fellow citizens that makes these billionaires smile! Even MAGAS understand this!


My experience has been that the visa holders are not paid much less than the Americans would be. It may be the case that the company could fill the position if they paid double the salary, but right now that isn’t happening and the position stays vacant instead.


Wrong. Musk is laying off Americans and bringing in foreigners to replace them.
https://electrek.co/2024/12/30/tesla-replaced-laid-off-us-workers-with-foreign-workers-using-h-1b-visas-that-musk-want-to-increase/
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 19:53     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Anonymous wrote:All you people complaining about this.. you are reaching out to Trump on social media, right?


Trump doesn't care about the morons that elected him. He cares only about his sugar daddy Melon.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 19:40     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Anonymous wrote:All you people complaining about this.. you are reaching out to Trump on social media, right?


Uh, you know that's usually not the way MAGAs reach out, right?
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 19:30     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Anonymous wrote:All you people complaining about this.. you are reaching out to Trump on social media, right?


For what?
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 19:21     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

All you people complaining about this.. you are reaching out to Trump on social media, right?
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 19:20     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't capitalism about increasing profit and keeping labor costs down? I thought MAGAs considered themselves capitalists.


Capitalism is about competition. Allowing defacto monopolies to control the labor market is not capitalism.

Corporations have the right to hire whoever they want to, barring discrimination against race, religion, gender.

Sorry, that's capitalism. MAGA


Hiring employees whose status in our country is tightly tied to their employment by a specific company is indentured servitude. That's not capitalism.

Nah. Indentured servants don't get paid. Capitalism supports work visas - just ask Trump.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 18:16     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote:Ramaswamy's vision of raising children revolves around math cram schools, no sleepovers, no cartoons. Instead of doing sports kids are supposed to go to science competitions and study more math.

Let's see how having a no sports culture is doing for India. There were 89 countries in the Paris Olympics who won medals. India had the fewest medals per capita of all those 89 countries. They only managed to win 6 medals (and not even one gold medal) with a population of over a billion people. That is one measly medal for every 234,000,000 people. The United States won 126 medals which is one or every 2,600,0000. In the 2020 Tokyo Olympics India won 1 medal.

Why don't Musk and Ramaswamy understand people want well rounded citizens who aren't specializing in high school and are taking AP English and APUSH in addition to STEM classes and playing sports. So it takes then a year or two more to catch up with someone from another country who don't value being well rounded.

Which engineer would you rather hire? Someone who has school spirit like Daniel from Cal Berkeley who is a sophomore civil engineering student who shows up at 11:40 at night to attend an ESPN Game Day show at Cal before a football game, and who can then kick a field goal and win 100,000 for himself and $100,000 for hurricane victims OR someone who has no idea what football is even about and never goes to a college football game because they are a recluse in their dorms?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPPxefQTLV4

They’d hire the better engineer. Nobody gives a add crap whether an employee is “well rounded” or played high school football.

Maybe but they aren't better just cheaper. That's what this is about.


Some tech companies already paid the price of "cheaper is better" - cheaper isn't always better. A lot of companies have been burned by outsourcing to Indians, where their code took longer because of communication problems, lack of subject matter expertise, cutting corners and so on.


The amount of people I know in tech who have had to correct their code and work in general is insane. They’re not “smarter.” They’re cheaper.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 17:53     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Good. H1s should be SIGNIFICANTLY limited (not completely stopped). The “best and brightest” aren’t being brought over, the cheapest are. All these STEM kids graduating in the US paired with experienced professionals should be the priority!
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 17:38     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Isn't capitalism about increasing profit and keeping labor costs down? I thought MAGAs considered themselves capitalists.


Capitalism is about competition. Allowing defacto monopolies to control the labor market is not capitalism.

Corporations have the right to hire whoever they want to, barring discrimination against race, religion, gender.

Sorry, that's capitalism. MAGA


Hiring employees whose status in our country is tightly tied to their employment by a specific company is indentured servitude. That's not capitalism.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 16:50     Subject: Re:Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote:Skilled Legal versus illegal migration matters a lot.

The highly skilled visas specialty occupations include fields such as architecture, engineering, mathematics, physical sciences, social sciences, medicine and health, education, business specialties, accounting, law, theology, and the arts.

Highly skilled foreign workers are filling gaps in US markets and help grow industries that create more jobs for Americans . Also other countries have paid for their education so that saves the US a lot of money while US gets to benefit from their education and work experience.

FACT SHEET by American Immigration Council
The highly skilled Visa Program and Its Impact on the U.S. Economy

Foreign workers fill a critical need in the U.S. labor market—particularly in the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) fields. Every year, U.S. employers seeking highly skilled foreign professionals compete for the pool of H-1B visa numbers for which U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) controls the allocation.i With a low statutory limit of visa numbers available, demand for H-1B visa numbers has outstripped the supply in recent years, and the cap has been reached before the year ends. Research shows that H-1B workers complement U.S. workers, fill employment gaps in many STEM occupations, and expand job opportunities for all.


If US STEM and tech workers are being laid off, why do we need H1-B visas to double in those fields?



To drive down salaries.

Take a look at the H2B visa wages: https://www.epi.org/blog/h-2b-crabpickers-maryland-seafood-industry-paid-less-than-average/

Yep, Trump's resorts use H2Bs.


That's not the visa being talked about here. Trump is actually wrong saying he used H1 in his companies. The government has a site listing all the visa employers. Trump is not listed.

The ^PP linked an article about H2b, which is what I was responding to. Trump loves H1 now because his financier loves them.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2024 16:08     Subject: Hate towards H1-B visa holders

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Anonymous wrote:It's like Vivek and Elon didn't pay attention to all the GOP rhetoric during Trump's campaign.

Yes, racism and dislike of immigrants is what the GOP is about right now.


They're billionaires. They haven't needed to consider the feelings and opinions of other people since they acquired that level wealth.

At this point, I'm sure it doesn't even occur to them to do so.


That makes sense. They've been hanging around in woke circles and seem to be surprised by the tank and file of the GOP.