Anonymous wrote:You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

No way an intruder did this. Someone in the house did it.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

It’s like the dingo and the baby story. They thought it was all a coverup to a fantastic story that nobody wanted to believe that the dingo ate the baby, but turns out it was a dingo. But they still locked the mother up.

I tend to agree with this. There are some really compelling theories about it being the family, but something always falls apart. They might have had a lot of issues and a lot to hide and all may not be as it seemed, but sadistic rape and torture of their 6 year old seems more than a stretch.

The ransom note is insane but there are tons of hand writing experts out there and you are telling me that Patsy Ramsey fooled them all? Just doesn’t make sense.

I think that whoever did it- family , intruder- that Patsy helped cover it up for some reason. Maybe she suspected it was her son so she wrote the ransom note but it wasn’t her son. She (JonBenét) was clearly downstairs of her own volition eating a snack in the middle of the night which is also suspicious.

And Burke said he went down to play with a toy, so they were likely together at some point. The boiler room had presents with the wrapping paper pulled back a bit as if the kids had been snooping there. This, plus the length of the assault and ransom note (notebook and pen neatly put back btw) don't support the intruder theory. But I'm also with those who think we'll never know exactly what happened.

Agree. There are details we will never know. For example- maybe the 2 kids were downstairs eating their snack and snooping on their presents and the mom sort of overhears them because she herself is still up packing , etc. Then Burke goes off somewhere else and JonBenét is still down there and the intruder comes out of hiding and does this and runs off. Then Burke comes and says “mom, something happened to Jonbenet” and shows her the body. And of course the mom thinks it was him, but it wasn’t.

This sounds insane but it could have happened this way!

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Anonymous wrote:You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

It’s like the dingo and the baby story. They thought it was all a coverup to a fantastic story that nobody wanted to believe that the dingo ate the baby, but turns out it was a dingo. But they still locked the mother up.

I tend to agree with this. There are some really compelling theories about it being the family, but something always falls apart. They might have had a lot of issues and a lot to hide and all may not be as it seemed, but sadistic rape and torture of their 6 year old seems more than a stretch.

The ransom note is insane but there are tons of hand writing experts out there and you are telling me that Patsy Ramsey fooled them all? Just doesn’t make sense.

I think that whoever did it- family , intruder- that Patsy helped cover it up for some reason. Maybe she suspected it was her son so she wrote the ransom note but it wasn’t her son. She (JonBenét) was clearly downstairs of her own volition eating a snack in the middle of the night which is also suspicious.

And Burke said he went down to play with a toy, so they were likely together at some point. The boiler room had presents with the wrapping paper pulled back a bit as if the kids had been snooping there. This, plus the length of the assault and ransom note (notebook and pen neatly put back btw) don't support the intruder theory. But I'm also with those who think we'll never know exactly what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

It’s like the dingo and the baby story. They thought it was all a coverup to a fantastic story that nobody wanted to believe that the dingo ate the baby, but turns out it was a dingo. But they still locked the mother up.

I tend to agree with this. There are some really compelling theories about it being the family, but something always falls apart. They might have had a lot of issues and a lot to hide and all may not be as it seemed, but sadistic rape and torture of their 6 year old seems more than a stretch.

The ransom note is insane but there are tons of hand writing experts out there and you are telling me that Patsy Ramsey fooled them all? Just doesn’t make sense.

I think that whoever did it- family , intruder- that Patsy helped cover it up for some reason. Maybe she suspected it was her son so she wrote the ransom note but it wasn’t her son. She (JonBenét) was clearly downstairs of her own volition eating a snack in the middle of the night which is also suspicious.

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Anonymous wrote:You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

It’s like the dingo and the baby story. They thought it was all a coverup to a fantastic story that nobody wanted to believe that the dingo ate the baby, but turns out it was a dingo. But they still locked the mother up.

I tend to agree with this. There are some really compelling theories about it being the family, but something always falls apart. They might have had a lot of issues and a lot to hide and all may not be as it seemed, but sadistic rape and torture of their 6 year old seems more than a stretch.

The ransom note is insane but there are tons of hand writing experts out there and you are telling me that Patsy Ramsey fooled them all? Just doesn’t make sense.

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Anonymous wrote:The ransom note was clearly written by Patsy for many reasons. Look at the two samples, plus men don't babble like this. Or use complementary terms. Its absurd she wasn't a little smarter about the cover up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/comments/188slcd/the_ransom_note_comparison_original_vs_patsy/

I agree, seems clear she wrote it with her left hand and deliberately hid certain characteristics eg the way she wrote her 'a's.

Yes, what I noticed.

For me it all hinges on the ransom note as well. Hope this is addressed with updated technology.

Anonymous wrote:You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

It’s like the dingo and the baby story. They thought it was all a coverup to a fantastic story that nobody wanted to believe that the dingo ate the baby, but turns out it was a dingo. But they still locked the mother up.

You guys implicating the parents are just as moronic and dumb as the Boulder police. An intruder and sadistic pedophile did this. I’m so sorry they had to go through this horrible event. Patsy and Jonbenet are at peace now at least.

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Anonymous wrote:The ransom note was clearly written by Patsy for many reasons. Look at the two samples, plus men don't babble like this. Or use complementary terms. Its absurd she wasn't a little smarter about the cover up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JonBenetRamsey/comments/188slcd/the_ransom_note_comparison_original_vs_patsy/

I agree, seems clear she wrote it with her left hand and deliberately hid certain characteristics eg the way she wrote her 'a's.

Yes, what I noticed.

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Anonymous wrote:John Ramsey never seemed genuinely distraught to me. I know you can't base much on demeanor, but his always struck me as weird.

I’ve never understood this as a reason he may have done it. Unless people are implying he was a cold-blooded killer that plotted to murder his daughter in advance.

That would explain a weird demeanor. But if they were covering up for Burke, doesn’t it stand to reason they would still be incredibly distraught over the loss of their daughter?

Patsy seemed to be, but John always seemed cool and collected.

John already had been through the wringer with the death of his eldest daughter when Jonbenet was a baby. Maybe he was numb to a second big loss? Psychology can be weird that way.

Fwiw Burke said he heard his parents crying a lot after the murder. He may well have had a public face and a private face.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the appeal of this tired old story?

There’s no “appeal” and I didn’t watch it, but I see the value in looking at some of these old cases that were tragically poorly investigated. In this and many other cases, the truth will probably never come out. Some pompous men in authority got to do their jobs as carelessly as possible and make any claims and accusations they felt like and acted as though everything they had done was beyond reproach. You’ve got to hope that lessons can be learned about standards and accountability.

It's such an odd mystery, involving a beautiful little girl. People are frustrated there's still been no justice for her.

Anonymous wrote:What is the appeal of this tired old story?

There’s no “appeal” and I didn’t watch it, but I see the value in looking at some of these old cases that were tragically poorly investigated. In this and many other cases, the truth will probably never come out. Some pompous men in authority got to do their jobs as carelessly as possible and make any claims and accusations they felt like and acted as though everything they had done was beyond reproach. You’ve got to hope that lessons can be learned about standards and accountability.

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Anonymous wrote:John Ramsey never seemed genuinely distraught to me. I know you can't base much on demeanor, but his always struck me as weird.

I’ve never understood this as a reason he may have done it. Unless people are implying he was a cold-blooded killer that plotted to murder his daughter in advance.

That would explain a weird demeanor. But if they were covering up for Burke, doesn’t it stand to reason they would still be incredibly distraught over the loss of their daughter?

Patsy seemed to be, but John always seemed cool and collected.

John already had been through the wringer with the death of his eldest daughter when Jonbenet was a baby. Maybe he was numb to a second big loss? Psychology can be weird that way.

What is the appeal of this tired old story?

Google Santa and Jon Benet.

Some weird stuff about a family friend who played Santa for several of the families. Played Santa in the Ramsey home before so would have been familiar with the house. He had a weird past and his wife had written a play in the 1970s about a little girl who was abducted from her home, molested and killed in the basement.

JB had been telling people santa was going to pay her a special visit after Christmas.

He was ruled out, but just weird stuff.