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Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from Brown with a degree in history, and is still looking for a job. The job market is very bad right now. In the meantime, he is living at home and teaching Pickleball for spending money.

Consulting is always hiring

Not right now. There’s been numerous articles in WSJ about post-MBA options in tech and consulting dwindling. The bench is deep in consulting right now, people are getting counseled out and others are not leaving for industry jobs because there are fewer. They really overhired a few years ago.

DC at Princeton had an easy time walking into Consulting with a 3.4. It's really not difficult if you are decently smart.

...if you are smart AND have a degree from Princeton.

I mean...yeah, kinda the point of consulting recruiting.

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Anonymous wrote:DD graduate from Amherst, 3.8, Gender Studies/Art history, unemployed and still looking…

LOL ! Did you expect any different result ?

It's the Amherst troll.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from Brown with a degree in history, and is still looking for a job. The job market is very bad right now. In the meantime, he is living at home and teaching Pickleball for spending money.

Consulting is always hiring

Not right now. There’s been numerous articles in WSJ about post-MBA options in tech and consulting dwindling. The bench is deep in consulting right now, people are getting counseled out and others are not leaving for industry jobs because there are fewer. They really overhired a few years ago.

DC at Princeton had an easy time walking into Consulting with a 3.4. It's really not difficult if you are decently smart.

...if you are smart AND have a degree from Princeton.

Anonymous wrote:DD graduate from Amherst, 3.8, Gender Studies/Art history, unemployed and still looking…

LOL ! Did you expect any different result ?

DD graduate from Amherst, 3.8, Gender Studies/Art history, unemployed and still looking…

Anonymous wrote:DS at Uchicago, Physics and CS major, 3.9, Phi beta kappa, department awards, going into Satellite engineering at Raytheon! We're so proud of him!

Physics and CS...brutal! Congrats

DS at Uchicago, Physics and CS major, 3.9, Phi beta kappa, department awards, going into Satellite engineering at Raytheon! We're so proud of him!

Anonymous wrote:People keep mentioning GPAs for jobs. Kids can put whatever GPA they want on their resumes, nobody checks.

Liars are usually the first to get hired. Could be considered fraud.

Anonymous wrote:People keep mentioning GPAs for jobs. Kids can put whatever GPA they want on their resumes, nobody checks.

I’ve seen my kid upload transcripts to job websites…

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Anonymous wrote:My DS graduated from Brown with a degree in history, and is still looking for a job. The job market is very bad right now. In the meantime, he is living at home and teaching Pickleball for spending money.

Consulting is always hiring

Not right now. There’s been numerous articles in WSJ about post-MBA options in tech and consulting dwindling. The bench is deep in consulting right now, people are getting counseled out and others are not leaving for industry jobs because there are fewer. They really overhired a few years ago.

DC at Princeton had an easy time walking into Consulting with a 3.4. It's really not difficult if you are decently smart.

Maybe my recently graduated Ivy kid is not a smart because he is still looking for a job.

People keep mentioning GPAs for jobs. Kids can put whatever GPA they want on their resumes, nobody checks.

Anonymous wrote:DD mechanical engineering from UMD just got a job $70k. Unfortunately, the commute is killer.

Unfortunately, you gotta go with the jobs are. Can they rent a room or get a roommate and move closer to work?

They should also wait a year, then start applying for other jobs. As they say, you have to have a job to get a job.

They are at least fortunate to have a job.

I asked DS (UMD CS major, second year but a Senior thanks to an abundance of AP credits) if they were willing to move anywhere in the US for a good paying job, and they said yes, at least for a year. We've been telling our kids since HS that you have to go where the jobs are. Once you have a few years under your belt, you'll have more flexibility in choosing where you want to get a job.

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.

You can be a mediocre student at an Ivy and become a consultant

that explains a lot about some of the consultants I've worked with over the years.

Dp. It was the backup career at Yale. Saw total idiots get management consulting jobs, must be a tough world for McKinsey to hire so many meatheads.

Backup career for what?

DP, different ivy: consulting or working for think tanks is considered a backup for ivy kids: taking a year or so off before law school, phD, or even premeds (yes medical consulting is a thing). These companies are happy to have ivy grads for a couple of years . The students make bank and hone their resumes in other areas too

Working for a think tank is a complete piece of shit job that barely pays anything. At least consulting pays bank.

No. The top ones pay 80-100k . It is excellent money for a new grad.

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My understanding is that think tanks are very low paying positions. Think below $50,000.

Which think tanks are paying recent college grads 70k, 80k, or 100K ? Sorry, but I do not believe that any are paying new college grads 70k or 80k since top professionals with many publications do not get paid that much at think tanks.

DC Started at 70k with the CSIS and left three years later at 90k

DD mechanical engineering from UMD just got a job $70k. Unfortunately, the commute is killer.

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Anonymous wrote:Twins
DS1: Swarthmore, Art History Major, 4.0w/ all the awards, going into investment banking with a firm he interned for junior year
DS2: UVA, CS Major, 3.9w/all the awards, currently no job and applying like mad, past internship with Tesla
You can imagine my shock

How does art history lead to investment banking? This is not a snark comment. I'm genuinely curious as that would not be my expectation (though I know little about either as a career and college major).

A few years ago, I met an intern at my job(law office)who already had a job offer from Deloitte for consulting. They majored in History, but at Brown… so I guess it tracks.

What skills does a consultant even need? I've seen a fair share of DCs' humanities friends land into consulting.

You can be a mediocre student at an Ivy and become a consultant

that explains a lot about some of the consultants I've worked with over the years.

Dp. It was the backup career at Yale. Saw total idiots get management consulting jobs, must be a tough world for McKinsey to hire so many meatheads.

Backup career for what?

DP, different ivy: consulting or working for think tanks is considered a backup for ivy kids: taking a year or so off before law school, phD, or even premeds (yes medical consulting is a thing). These companies are happy to have ivy grads for a couple of years . The students make bank and hone their resumes in other areas too

Working for a think tank is a complete piece of shit job that barely pays anything. At least consulting pays bank.

No. The top ones pay 80-100k . It is excellent money for a new grad.

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My understanding is that think tanks are very low paying positions. Think below $50,000.

Which think tanks are paying recent college grads 70k, 80k, or 100K ? Sorry, but I do not believe that any are paying new college grads 70k or 80k since top professionals with many publications do not get paid that much at think tanks.

This is correct…unless someone names the think tanks that supposedly pay $80k-$100k to college grads.

Anyone I know that worked for one straight from college describes it as a terrible one-to-two years…basically, you only go to one at a senior level.