Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Biden is the only one weighing whether to drop out.

Big Donors and influential Dems concluded he needed to drop out from the first 5 minutes of that debate. He was toast from that moment, people, even if he didn't know it.

The problem is that he needs to be persuaded, otherwise he's so stubborn that he'll dig in his heels and it will become very unpleasant for everyone.

His family is not helping either, unfortunately. They too, need to be treated with kid gloves. As well as his very insular group of closest aides, who have been propping him up for years, and who stand to benefit most from a second term.

Biden WILL have to step aside at some point. Someone has to get through to his family, and his aides, that: we can do this the hard way, or we can do this the easy way.

But it will get done.

It sounds like big donors are putting the screws on. Pains me to be happy that they have a better chance of getting through than the voters but here we are.

There will also be a lot of hand wringing over Democratic Party eating its own but I’m hoping the situation is dire enough and time is short enough that it will be an exciting transition.

It's over. The election is over. The damage is too great. The Democrats cannot recover from this to win in 2024. You do not spend the last few years lying to the American public and using the media as your praetorian guard to protect Joe Biden's substantial cognitive decline and get away with it. All these stories coming out from various sources declaring they've long know the truth only makes it worse and worse. All the GOP has to do is to run endless ads saying if the Democrats lied (irrefutably as we all know) about Joe Biden's health, then what else are they also lying about? And a brokered convention without primaries may excite some partisans but it will disgust the independents and mild Democrats who just see this as the "system" shutting them out.

Trump will be the next president barring a heart attack. Everything else is a charade. A silly, pointless, futile charade.

Anonymous wrote:
Biden is the only one weighing whether to drop out.

Big Donors and influential Dems concluded he needed to drop out from the first 5 minutes of that debate. He was toast from that moment, people, even if he didn't know it.

The problem is that he needs to be persuaded, otherwise he's so stubborn that he'll dig in his heels and it will become very unpleasant for everyone.

His family is not helping either, unfortunately. They too, need to be treated with kid gloves. As well as his very insular group of closest aides, who have been propping him up for years, and who stand to benefit most from a second term.

Biden WILL have to step aside at some point. Someone has to get through to his family, and his aides, that: we can do this the hard way, or we can do this the easy way.

But it will get done.

It sounds like big donors are putting the screws on. Pains me to be happy that they have a better chance of getting through than the voters but here we are.

There will also be a lot of hand wringing over Democratic Party eating its own but I’m hoping the situation is dire enough and time is short enough that it will be an exciting transition.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The RNC convention is in ten days. I suspect senior democrats at the DNC and Congress will spend the interim settling on Biden's replacement as a candidate. And announce their choice shortly after end of the RNC convention - so two weeks from now roughly. In the meantime, it will be Game of Thrones among contenders.

Wow. Hadn’t realized the RNC convention was so soon.

Wow.

Anonymous wrote:The RNC convention is in ten days. I suspect senior democrats at the DNC and Congress will spend the interim settling on Biden's replacement as a candidate. And announce their choice shortly after end of the RNC convention - so two weeks from now roughly. In the meantime, it will be Game of Thrones among contenders.

Wow. Hadn’t realized the RNC convention was so soon.

Biden is the only one weighing whether to drop out.

Big Donors and influential Dems concluded he needed to drop out from the first 5 minutes of that debate. He was toast from that moment, people, even if he didn't know it.

The problem is that he needs to be persuaded, otherwise he's so stubborn that he'll dig in his heels and it will become very unpleasant for everyone.

His family is not helping either, unfortunately. They too, need to be treated with kid gloves. As well as his very insular group of closest aides, who have been propping him up for years, and who stand to benefit most from a second term.

Biden WILL have to step aside at some point. Someone has to get through to his family, and his aides, that: we can do this the hard way, or we can do this the easy way.

But it will get done.

The RNC convention is in ten days. I suspect senior democrats at the DNC and Congress will spend the interim settling on Biden's replacement as a candidate. And announce their choice shortly after end of the RNC convention - so two weeks from now roughly. In the meantime, it will be Game of Thrones among contenders.

Anonymous wrote:There needs to be a reckoning. So many lies from so many people.

https://x.com/KFILE/status/1809014776502067316[twitter]

There needs to be a reckoning. So many lies from so many people.

https://x.com/KFILE/status/1809014776502067316[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bipartisan ticket… Harris and Lynn Cheney?

No way in hell

Who is Lynn Cheney?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bipartisan ticket… Harris and Lynn Cheney?

No. Not a two female ticket. The Gov. of PA . It's swing state and he is popular.

Misogynist

Anonymous wrote:If Biden is polling well behind Trump, then who should replace Biden? I don't see a lot of good ideas on this thread.
Harris has a lot of weak points, but she'd wipe the floor with Trump in the second debate (is there one scheduled?)
Pete B?
Gavin N?
Who has a national profile?
Jamie Raskin?
I don't see any clear choices here.
The objective is to beat Trump.
Who will bring out the young Democrats who are so angry at Biden for Gaza?
Beating Trump is the goal. Nothing else matters.

Newsom will get the nod.

Anonymous wrote:If Biden is polling well behind Trump, then who should replace Biden? I don't see a lot of good ideas on this thread.
Harris has a lot of weak points, but she'd wipe the floor with Trump in the second debate (is there one scheduled?)
Pete B?
Gavin N?
Who has a national profile?
Jamie Raskin?
I don't see any clear choices here.
The objective is to beat Trump.
Who will bring out the young Democrats who are so angry at Biden for Gaza?
Beating Trump is the goal. Nothing else matters.

Young people like Kamala. The VP candidate needs to be someone who appeals to swing state voters.

Maybe pritzker? Pritzker has been very effective as governor. Even better, he’s a real billionaire and successful businessman, who will live rent free in trump’s addled head.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yeah. That's it. He needs more sleep and to avoid working after 8:00.

Hard to understand how this is supposed to be reassuring.

Such a dumb move to reference sleep when his opponent calls him Sleepy Joe

Anonymous wrote:Bipartisan ticket… Harris and Lynn Cheney?

No way in hell

Anonymous wrote:
Kamala’s most memorable debate line was calling Joe a racist.

She calls every single opponent a racist.

That’s what people who can’t win arguments with valid points do. Didn’t you go to middle school?