Anonymous wrote:plus 1. How delusional and whacky Pp is for suggesting exaggeration. Photos don’t exaggerate. Her face was beaten in those photos but she exaggerated….. um ok. We have people on this thread with their heads in the sandAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comment I've read on a few forums is that it's "karma" now that OJ has died. It would have been "karma" if he had died right after the criminal trail, or if he had died a horrible and painful death. But the fact that after the trial, he lived for another 29 years, had pensions that reportedly paid him between 100k to 300k annually and lived to 76, means that after the trial (apart from the prison sentence) he lived a life better than many others.
He lived in infamy for those years. He liked being famous and beloved.
A majority of the time, people are abused and killed by people who know them. He was that person.
They had a classical batterer/victim relationship. He beat her many times. Most of this was not brought up at trial. In the OJ film, it said she had written about 60 beatings in her diary. She also broke up with him about a month before the murder. A breakup is the most dangerous time for the woman. This is when an abuser will kill the victim. He had the classic personality of an abuser too: charming, affable to outsiders. People associate that with his celebrity, but he would have probably been charming even if he had not been famous.
He got away with a ton. Even the way the police handled it at the beginning and how they handled her calls before the murder. He got special treatment.
I do see how the Black community supported him. The LAPD was racist, used battering rams to destroy houses during the war on drugs, and this happened soon after Rodney King and those police officers being cleared. Also, he had some brilliant and charismatic lawyers--namely, Johnny Cochran and Barry Scheck.
Nicole’s diaries are questionable . She was also encouraged by her divorce lawyers to exaggerate or falsify domestic abuse claims to get more spousal support from OJ. Kris Jenner tried but failed to do the same thing to Robert Kardashian , an attorney who knew better and left Kris Jenner practically penniless in the divorce so she had to marry Caitlyn
Okay? The police came out several times. An officer testified she came out in a bra and sweatpants, they arrested him, he pled no contest and did community service by hosting a golf tournament. She had photos of herself beaten up. I guess that meant she wasn't in danger?
Anonymous wrote:Mark Furhman was known for planting drugs on African American men. The blood evidence in the case could All be planted which is why OJ wasn’t found guilty . Only an idiot would wear gloves to not leave a trace and then leave the bloody glove at the scene in a panic . That defeats the purpose . Such a scene would only happen if it were an unintended crime of passion but why bring gloves in LA in June ?
These facts and more are why the case fell apart
Anonymous wrote:He literally told his agent that if she hadn’t opened the door with a knife, she’d still be alive. Oj did it 100 percent.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know black people who do not even call 911 for real emergencies just because they don’t want their kids to see the cops dehumanize them with force in their own homes . Not every cop does this but before body cameras , it was very real. You can be the caller to 911 and still be treated as the suspect
It’s hard to explain this phenomenon and why OJ freaked out and ran and feared getting killed by cops unless you have generations of stories or experiences of things like this. Cops are just not seen as friends in the black community
Ummm you know that OJ infamously said he wasn’t black, he was OJ, and was chummy with the police before the murders, right? OJ absolutely was not in fear the police would kill him. FFS, they let him lead them on a never ending slow speed chase and return to his home unharmed. Whatever larger point you’re trying to make about the relationship between the Black community and the police really can’t be made with OJ as your example.
OJ was on the cover of Jet Magazine with his first black wife and kids. That’s an all black publication and he did this at his peak. He also donated and was very philanthropic to black causes.
He was an athlete not a politician. What does his one dumb comment “I’m not black, I’m OJ”, which really means he wanted to be seen as a person not a color , and being chummy with police have to do with the fact that he probably was spooked and scared that day of the chase? The drive and the suicide note was one of someone who thought his life was over . Frantic behavior like this doesn’t mean he killed anybody . It could just mean he was terrified and knew he’d be a suspect
Anonymous wrote:You are actually quoting Oj and conspiracy theories he tried to spread to make Nicole seem crazy. No evidence supports one thing you’re saying. No mafia hitman did this, no drug dealers, etc. His own lawyers knew he was guilty. The case was lost at jury selection and with a dream team that convinced them they’d be doing a disservice to the black community by convicting him. Any one of us would have been convicted. Oj was rich and it got him off so Stop. Nobody else but him did this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comment I've read on a few forums is that it's "karma" now that OJ has died. It would have been "karma" if he had died right after the criminal trail, or if he had died a horrible and painful death. But the fact that after the trial, he lived for another 29 years, had pensions that reportedly paid him between 100k to 300k annually and lived to 76, means that after the trial (apart from the prison sentence) he lived a life better than many others.
He lived in infamy for those years. He liked being famous and beloved.
A majority of the time, people are abused and killed by people who know them. He was that person.
They had a classical batterer/victim relationship. He beat her many times. Most of this was not brought up at trial. In the OJ film, it said she had written about 60 beatings in her diary. She also broke up with him about a month before the murder. A breakup is the most dangerous time for the woman. This is when an abuser will kill the victim. He had the classic personality of an abuser too: charming, affable to outsiders. People associate that with his celebrity, but he would have probably been charming even if he had not been famous.
He got away with a ton. Even the way the police handled it at the beginning and how they handled her calls before the murder. He got special treatment.
I do see how the Black community supported him. The LAPD was racist, used battering rams to destroy houses during the war on drugs, and this happened soon after Rodney King and those police officers being cleared. Also, he had some brilliant and charismatic lawyers--namely, Johnny Cochran and Barry Scheck.
Nicole’s diaries are questionable . She was also encouraged by her divorce lawyers to exaggerate or falsify domestic abuse claims to get more spousal support from OJ. Kris Jenner tried but failed to do the same thing to Robert Kardashian , an attorney who knew better and left Kris Jenner practically penniless in the divorce so she had to marry Caitlyn
Okay? The police came out several times. An officer testified she came out in a bra and sweatpants, they arrested him, he pled no contest and did community service by hosting a golf tournament. She had photos of herself beaten up. I guess that meant she wasn't in danger?
I’m sure she did take photos. She used to hit him and throw vases and say racial epithets as well. All that Coke rage. She needed evidence of mistreatment for more spousal support .
He was already dating a woman named Paula at the time of this murder . He didn’t care about her and Ron. She had slept with plenty people after OJ, why just take it out on Ron?
In fact, Nicole was the one wanting to get back together with him and angry at his girlfriends and confronting them. Nicole was also an anti Semite and berated a Jewish woman who was an assistant to OJ and made her cry. The more one reads on Nicole, the more your perspective on the situation will change. She maybe was bipolar or something .
She was a drug addict out of control and OJ was only concerned that his kids would be exposed to her reckless behavior
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You are actually quoting Oj and conspiracy theories he tried to spread to make Nicole seem crazy. No evidence supports one thing you’re saying. No mafia hitman did this, no drug dealers, etc. His own lawyers knew he was guilty. The case was lost at jury selection and with a dream team that convinced them they’d be doing a disservice to the black community by convicting him. Any one of us would have been convicted. Oj was rich and it got him off so Stop. Nobody else but him did this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comment I've read on a few forums is that it's "karma" now that OJ has died. It would have been "karma" if he had died right after the criminal trail, or if he had died a horrible and painful death. But the fact that after the trial, he lived for another 29 years, had pensions that reportedly paid him between 100k to 300k annually and lived to 76, means that after the trial (apart from the prison sentence) he lived a life better than many others.
He lived in infamy for those years. He liked being famous and beloved.
A majority of the time, people are abused and killed by people who know them. He was that person.
They had a classical batterer/victim relationship. He beat her many times. Most of this was not brought up at trial. In the OJ film, it said she had written about 60 beatings in her diary. She also broke up with him about a month before the murder. A breakup is the most dangerous time for the woman. This is when an abuser will kill the victim. He had the classic personality of an abuser too: charming, affable to outsiders. People associate that with his celebrity, but he would have probably been charming even if he had not been famous.
He got away with a ton. Even the way the police handled it at the beginning and how they handled her calls before the murder. He got special treatment.
I do see how the Black community supported him. The LAPD was racist, used battering rams to destroy houses during the war on drugs, and this happened soon after Rodney King and those police officers being cleared. Also, he had some brilliant and charismatic lawyers--namely, Johnny Cochran and Barry Scheck.
Nicole’s diaries are questionable . She was also encouraged by her divorce lawyers to exaggerate or falsify domestic abuse claims to get more spousal support from OJ. Kris Jenner tried but failed to do the same thing to Robert Kardashian , an attorney who knew better and left Kris Jenner practically penniless in the divorce so she had to marry Caitlyn
Okay? The police came out several times. An officer testified she came out in a bra and sweatpants, they arrested him, he pled no contest and did community service by hosting a golf tournament. She had photos of herself beaten up. I guess that meant she wasn't in danger?
I’m sure she did take photos. She used to hit him and throw vases and say racial epithets as well. All that Coke rage. She needed evidence of mistreatment for more spousal support .
He was already dating a woman named Paula at the time of this murder . He didn’t care about her and Ron. She had slept with plenty people after OJ, why just take it out on Ron?
In fact, Nicole was the one wanting to get back together with him and angry at his girlfriends and confronting them. Nicole was also an anti Semite and berated a Jewish woman who was an assistant to OJ and made her cry. The more one reads on Nicole, the more your perspective on the situation will change. She maybe was bipolar or something .
She was a drug addict out of control and OJ was only concerned that his kids would be exposed to her reckless behavior
PP is a horrible person and lacks critical thinking skills.
Anonymous wrote:Here is a link to a story which includes the gruesome crime scene photos showing they that Nicole and Ron were attacked and killed outside her condo on the walkway, while her children mercifully remained asleep inside upstairs.
https://radaronline.com/photos/oj-simpson-nicole-brown-ron-goldman-murder-scene-blood/
Anonymous wrote:You are actually quoting Oj and conspiracy theories he tried to spread to make Nicole seem crazy. No evidence supports one thing you’re saying. No mafia hitman did this, no drug dealers, etc. His own lawyers knew he was guilty. The case was lost at jury selection and with a dream team that convinced them they’d be doing a disservice to the black community by convicting him. Any one of us would have been convicted. Oj was rich and it got him off so Stop. Nobody else but him did this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comment I've read on a few forums is that it's "karma" now that OJ has died. It would have been "karma" if he had died right after the criminal trail, or if he had died a horrible and painful death. But the fact that after the trial, he lived for another 29 years, had pensions that reportedly paid him between 100k to 300k annually and lived to 76, means that after the trial (apart from the prison sentence) he lived a life better than many others.
He lived in infamy for those years. He liked being famous and beloved.
A majority of the time, people are abused and killed by people who know them. He was that person.
They had a classical batterer/victim relationship. He beat her many times. Most of this was not brought up at trial. In the OJ film, it said she had written about 60 beatings in her diary. She also broke up with him about a month before the murder. A breakup is the most dangerous time for the woman. This is when an abuser will kill the victim. He had the classic personality of an abuser too: charming, affable to outsiders. People associate that with his celebrity, but he would have probably been charming even if he had not been famous.
He got away with a ton. Even the way the police handled it at the beginning and how they handled her calls before the murder. He got special treatment.
I do see how the Black community supported him. The LAPD was racist, used battering rams to destroy houses during the war on drugs, and this happened soon after Rodney King and those police officers being cleared. Also, he had some brilliant and charismatic lawyers--namely, Johnny Cochran and Barry Scheck.
Nicole’s diaries are questionable . She was also encouraged by her divorce lawyers to exaggerate or falsify domestic abuse claims to get more spousal support from OJ. Kris Jenner tried but failed to do the same thing to Robert Kardashian , an attorney who knew better and left Kris Jenner practically penniless in the divorce so she had to marry Caitlyn
Okay? The police came out several times. An officer testified she came out in a bra and sweatpants, they arrested him, he pled no contest and did community service by hosting a golf tournament. She had photos of herself beaten up. I guess that meant she wasn't in danger?
I’m sure she did take photos. She used to hit him and throw vases and say racial epithets as well. All that Coke rage. She needed evidence of mistreatment for more spousal support .
He was already dating a woman named Paula at the time of this murder . He didn’t care about her and Ron. She had slept with plenty people after OJ, why just take it out on Ron?
In fact, Nicole was the one wanting to get back together with him and angry at his girlfriends and confronting them. Nicole was also an anti Semite and berated a Jewish woman who was an assistant to OJ and made her cry. The more one reads on Nicole, the more your perspective on the situation will change. She maybe was bipolar or something .
She was a drug addict out of control and OJ was only concerned that his kids would be exposed to her reckless behavior
Oj said? You can’t possibly be this far gone. Have you watched his interviews after murder? He threw out all kinds of things to deflect from himself.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know black people who do not even call 911 for real emergencies just because they don’t want their kids to see the cops dehumanize them with force in their own homes . Not every cop does this but before body cameras , it was very real. You can be the caller to 911 and still be treated as the suspect
It’s hard to explain this phenomenon and why OJ freaked out and ran and feared getting killed by cops unless you have generations of stories or experiences of things like this. Cops are just not seen as friends in the black community
Ummm you know that OJ infamously said he wasn’t black, he was OJ, and was chummy with the police before the murders, right? OJ absolutely was not in fear the police would kill him. FFS, they let him lead them on a never ending slow speed chase and return to his home unharmed. Whatever larger point you’re trying to make about the relationship between the Black community and the police really can’t be made with OJ as your example.
OJ was on the cover of Jet Magazine with his first black wife and kids. That’s an all black publication and he did this at his peak. He also donated and was very philanthropic to black causes.
He was an athlete not a politician. What does his one dumb comment “I’m not black, I’m OJ”, which really means he wanted to be seen as a person not a color , and being chummy with police have to do with the fact that he probably was spooked and scared that day of the chase? The drive and the suicide note was one of someone who thought his life was over . Frantic behavior like this doesn’t mean he killed anybody . It could just mean he was terrified and knew he’d be a suspect
You’re moving the goalposts. Sure we can agree OJ was freaked out, but it was not because he thought the police were going to kill him. He was freaked out because he killed 2 people and knew that his life as he knew it, beloved sports icon who had also transcended sports, was over.
This is speculation and can’t be used in a court of law however. The evidence is all that matters and the detective botched things. Ron’s defensive wounds imply he fought a very very strong fight with his attacker . No leather gloves would survive such a vicious defensive fight and stab attack. The scene leads me to believe multiple killers.
Arthritic OJ with bad hands and knees fighting off a martial artist in a death match wouldve led to a pool of his DNA on Ron.
Clearly you’ve drank the kool aid, but you are also (inaccurately) speculating that OJ was freaked out because he was scared of the police or something. You are allowed in court to argue as to the inferences that can be drawn from such a flight, and I think the prosecutors made a mistake in not introducing the chase. Ron wasn’t armed, neither was Nicole, so while I’m sure Ron valiantly fought back, that wouldn’t have destroyed the gloves. Ron did manage to cause a glove to come off and OJ to get cut on the same hand the glove came off
of though and leave drops of blood as he left the crime scene. I don’t completely discount the idea that there was someone else with OJ, hey he even “hypothetically” acknowledges that in that ridiculous “If I Did It” interview. 47 year old, 6 foot 1 inch OJ filled with rage was not some weak, debilitated old man.
Ron and Nicole weren’t even in a relationship. They were platonic friends- something even the Goldman family says. Why would he kill Nicole and Ron if he were this rage filled jealous monster? Ron wasn’t even her boyfriend .
6 foot 1 inch OJ was fat, had a wobbly knock kneed gait, Arthritis in the joints from years as an athlete, had turned to golf in old age, and he was once so afraid of blood on the scene of a movie that the director thought he was too easygoing to play a believable villain . He was not as fit as Ron Goldman who was in his 20’s. Do you know what a martial artist trained in self defense can do? The minute he was on Nicole, Ron would’ve came from behind and choked him to death or at least ran to the kitchen to grab a kitchen knife and call 911. The scene only makes sense to me if there were multiple killers.
I think Ron came upon OJ murdering Nicole, hence the glasses he was returning being found with the bodies. He was the epitome of wrong place, wrong time. OJ was already in a frenzy, and Nicole was probably dead by the time Ron happened on the scene. Just as you’re over exaggerating OJs physical decline at that time, I think you’re also over exaggerating Ron’s physical abilities in the face of an armed OJ Simpson in a frenzy.
That makes even less sense to me. You don’t just stumble upon a stabbing like that. Who would have opened the door? Did he have a Key to the house ? He didn’t know Nicole for that long. They weren’t intimate. I believe he was her dealer and he stopped by to drop off a package
OJ said something about multiple killers and so did some neighbors who reported seeing several men .
You are actually quoting Oj and conspiracy theories he tried to spread to make Nicole seem crazy. No evidence supports one thing you’re saying. No mafia hitman did this, no drug dealers, etc. His own lawyers knew he was guilty. The case was lost at jury selection and with a dream team that convinced them they’d be doing a disservice to the black community by convicting him. Any one of us would of been convicted. Oj was rich and it got him off so Stop. Nobody else but him did this.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comment I've read on a few forums is that it's "karma" now that OJ has died. It would have been "karma" if he had died right after the criminal trail, or if he had died a horrible and painful death. But the fact that after the trial, he lived for another 29 years, had pensions that reportedly paid him between 100k to 300k annually and lived to 76, means that after the trial (apart from the prison sentence) he lived a life better than many others.
He lived in infamy for those years. He liked being famous and beloved.
A majority of the time, people are abused and killed by people who know them. He was that person.
They had a classical batterer/victim relationship. He beat her many times. Most of this was not brought up at trial. In the OJ film, it said she had written about 60 beatings in her diary. She also broke up with him about a month before the murder. A breakup is the most dangerous time for the woman. This is when an abuser will kill the victim. He had the classic personality of an abuser too: charming, affable to outsiders. People associate that with his celebrity, but he would have probably been charming even if he had not been famous.
He got away with a ton. Even the way the police handled it at the beginning and how they handled her calls before the murder. He got special treatment.
I do see how the Black community supported him. The LAPD was racist, used battering rams to destroy houses during the war on drugs, and this happened soon after Rodney King and those police officers being cleared. Also, he had some brilliant and charismatic lawyers--namely, Johnny Cochran and Barry Scheck.
Nicole’s diaries are questionable . She was also encouraged by her divorce lawyers to exaggerate or falsify domestic abuse claims to get more spousal support from OJ. Kris Jenner tried but failed to do the same thing to Robert Kardashian , an attorney who knew better and left Kris Jenner practically penniless in the divorce so she had to marry Caitlyn
Okay? The police came out several times. An officer testified she came out in a bra and sweatpants, they arrested him, he pled no contest and did community service by hosting a golf tournament. She had photos of herself beaten up. I guess that meant she wasn't in danger?
I’m sure she did take photos. She used to hit him and throw vases and say racial epithets as well. All that Coke rage. She needed evidence of mistreatment for more spousal support .
He was already dating a woman named Paula at the time of this murder . He didn’t care about her and Ron. She had slept with plenty people after OJ, why just take it out on Ron?
In fact, Nicole was the one wanting to get back together with him and angry at his girlfriends and confronting them. Nicole was also an anti Semite and berated a Jewish woman who was an assistant to OJ and made her cry. The more one reads on Nicole, the more your perspective on the situation will change. She maybe was bipolar or something .
She was a drug addict out of control and OJ was only concerned that his kids would be exposed to her reckless behavior
LaVergne also addressed the $33.5 million civil judgment awarded to the families of Simpson’s ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman by a California jury in 1997. Although Simpson was acquitted in a criminal trial of killing the two, he was sued by their families for wrongful death and found liable by a civil jury.
LaVergne characterized the judgment as “just creditors’ claims,” and characterized the families as “publicity creditors” who would be placed in a “pecking order” behind others – such as the Internal Revenue Service – to whom LaVergne told KTNV Simpson had “substantial” debt.
“They’re free, like every other creditor out there … to do their claims and let the paperwork fly,” LaVergne said in reference to the Goldman and Brown families.
LaVergne went a step further in a phone interview with the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Friday, saying he would fight any payout from the estate to the Goldman family.
“It’s my hope that the Goldmans get zero, nothing,” LaVergne told the outlet. “Them specifically. And I will do everything in my capacity as the executor or personal representative to try and ensure that they get nothing,” he said.
plus 1. How delusional and whacky Pp is for suggesting exaggeration. Photos don’t exaggerate. Her face was beaten in those photos but she exaggerated….. um ok. We have people on this thread with their heads in the sandAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A comment I've read on a few forums is that it's "karma" now that OJ has died. It would have been "karma" if he had died right after the criminal trail, or if he had died a horrible and painful death. But the fact that after the trial, he lived for another 29 years, had pensions that reportedly paid him between 100k to 300k annually and lived to 76, means that after the trial (apart from the prison sentence) he lived a life better than many others.
He lived in infamy for those years. He liked being famous and beloved.
A majority of the time, people are abused and killed by people who know them. He was that person.
They had a classical batterer/victim relationship. He beat her many times. Most of this was not brought up at trial. In the OJ film, it said she had written about 60 beatings in her diary. She also broke up with him about a month before the murder. A breakup is the most dangerous time for the woman. This is when an abuser will kill the victim. He had the classic personality of an abuser too: charming, affable to outsiders. People associate that with his celebrity, but he would have probably been charming even if he had not been famous.
He got away with a ton. Even the way the police handled it at the beginning and how they handled her calls before the murder. He got special treatment.
I do see how the Black community supported him. The LAPD was racist, used battering rams to destroy houses during the war on drugs, and this happened soon after Rodney King and those police officers being cleared. Also, he had some brilliant and charismatic lawyers--namely, Johnny Cochran and Barry Scheck.
Nicole’s diaries are questionable . She was also encouraged by her divorce lawyers to exaggerate or falsify domestic abuse claims to get more spousal support from OJ. Kris Jenner tried but failed to do the same thing to Robert Kardashian , an attorney who knew better and left Kris Jenner practically penniless in the divorce so she had to marry Caitlyn
Okay? The police came out several times. An officer testified she came out in a bra and sweatpants, they arrested him, he pled no contest and did community service by hosting a golf tournament. She had photos of herself beaten up. I guess that meant she wasn't in danger?