Anonymous wrote:Portland Maine newspaper
https://www.pressherald.com/2023/10/26/lewiston-shooting-suspect-a-skilled-marksman-who-played-cornhole-recently-struggled-with-mental-health/

"In an interview Thursday with NBC News, Liam Kent said he grew up about a half-mile from the Card family’s “compound” in Bowdoin. Kent said the family and Robert Card II “are all gun fanatics and are very much associated with right-wing militias.”

“It’s known in the town to stay away from them, to not approach them,” Kent said. “If you see them, you just turn around and walk away. They would shoot guns all the time. You could hear a gun every day after school. It was like clockwork.”

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Yes, that type of law might interfere with a white man’s right to own an assault weapon-a right which trumps everyone else’s right to live.

I understand you are profoundly angry. He sounds like he is completely psychotic. However, that has nothing to do with being white. I hope they catch him soon.

Actually race has a lot to do with assault weapon ownership and mass shootings of this type. Most are not psychotic-just angry white guys.

This guy (Robert Card) is a big MAGA/Fox/Jim Jordan/Tucker Carlson/right-wing militia follower. He wanted to show the world his "rage" by shooting children in a bowling alley with his AR-15. America The Beautiful.

Links for the above?

MAGA!

Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Let's take a look at the shooter's social media activity before the shooting, shall we?

In the event you can't access the info, he was frequenting twitter accounts of Jim Jordan, End Wokeness, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk -

He told them straight up that he was hearing voices and was going to commit a mass shooting. He was failed by the VA, the system, whoever didn’t take him seriously. This is not about MAGA or anything else. It’s about a complete failure of the system to help someone. Welcome to our government.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's as simple as voting Dems and GOP out. I think there are Dems who also support NRA and pro gun. This is not about the right for gun ownership rather the ability and knowledge to use a gun safely. You'll never be able to magically wipe out (at least not now!) gun ownership - too many out there. And having spent years fighting the gun lobby, I think it hasn't been energy well spent. To rid guns from the street is a pipe dream.

BUT we can look at who gets the guns, track them and put a process by which they have to legally follow in order to continue to own them. I may not be able to take away the right for someone who suggests they have a right to own in this country, but I can make them follow specific processes to try to promote public safety and abilities to use them the wrong way. There's more than 1 way to skin a cat so to speak

I’m not sure if you’re responding to me (13:35) but I may not have been clear. We will make no progress, on any aspect of this, as long as the GOP has enough power to block legislation at the state and federal level. They will allow no laws about tracking, public safety, mental health, nothing.

I come from a hunting family. I don’t give a rat’s if people own hunting rifles (but if you invited my kids over, I want to know they’re in a safe). But people who insist on an arsenal of guns that require no aiming, that can tear humans apart and make pink slime of little children’s bodies, that essentially have endless ammo - this is not acceptable. This is not fun. This is unsafe. It is tearing America apart and I believe that’s what the GOP wants.

“Require no aiming.”

Don’t know much about firearms, do you?

DP. That was easily understood. The AR-15 is a popular gun because it is easy to use, fun, and almost point-and-shoot. Aiming in the general direction is good enough.

You haven’t got the slightest idea what you’re blithering about. “Point and shoot?” “General direction?” An AR15 is a rifle. It shoots an approximately 22 caliber bullet. A good example can shoot into an inch at 100 yards if properly handled by a competent marksman. The more average performance with an average shooter and average rifle would be 4-6 inches at 100 yards. These results require close, careful sight alignment, breath control, trigger control, recoil control, consistent head position on the stock, a stable shooting platform, etc. Point and shoot will result in random, if any, hits. General direction shooting the same. Myths and ignorance notwithstanding, there is a lot more space around targets than on them. Sportsmen spend years perfecting their skills and thousands of dollars on customized firearms and sights to shrink their shot groups and win competitions.

The people using it to kill other people are not shooting 100 yards. In a classroom, they are point and shoot.

Why don’t you go out to a rifle range and try that theory out? And if you are correct, which you aren’t, the AR15 is functionally indistinguishable from numerous other firearms, and even less distinguishable in terms of point blank fish in a barrel “accuracy.”

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's as simple as voting Dems and GOP out. I think there are Dems who also support NRA and pro gun. This is not about the right for gun ownership rather the ability and knowledge to use a gun safely. You'll never be able to magically wipe out (at least not now!) gun ownership - too many out there. And having spent years fighting the gun lobby, I think it hasn't been energy well spent. To rid guns from the street is a pipe dream.

BUT we can look at who gets the guns, track them and put a process by which they have to legally follow in order to continue to own them. I may not be able to take away the right for someone who suggests they have a right to own in this country, but I can make them follow specific processes to try to promote public safety and abilities to use them the wrong way. There's more than 1 way to skin a cat so to speak

I’m not sure if you’re responding to me (13:35) but I may not have been clear. We will make no progress, on any aspect of this, as long as the GOP has enough power to block legislation at the state and federal level. They will allow no laws about tracking, public safety, mental health, nothing.

I come from a hunting family. I don’t give a rat’s if people own hunting rifles (but if you invited my kids over, I want to know they’re in a safe). But people who insist on an arsenal of guns that require no aiming, that can tear humans apart and make pink slime of little children’s bodies, that essentially have endless ammo - this is not acceptable. This is not fun. This is unsafe. It is tearing America apart and I believe that’s what the GOP wants.

“Require no aiming.”

Don’t know much about firearms, do you?

DP. That was easily understood. The AR-15 is a popular gun because it is easy to use, fun, and almost point-and-shoot. Aiming in the general direction is good enough.

You haven’t got the slightest idea what you’re blithering about. “Point and shoot?” “General direction?” An AR15 is a rifle. It shoots an approximately 22 caliber bullet. A good example can shoot into an inch at 100 yards if properly handled by a competent marksman. The more average performance with an average shooter and average rifle would be 4-6 inches at 100 yards. These results require close, careful sight alignment, breath control, trigger control, recoil control, consistent head position on the stock, a stable shooting platform, etc. Point and shoot will result in random, if any, hits. General direction shooting the same. Myths and ignorance notwithstanding, there is a lot more space around targets than on them. Sportsmen spend years perfecting their skills and thousands of dollars on customized firearms and sights to shrink their shot groups and win competitions.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Yes, that type of law might interfere with a white man’s right to own an assault weapon-a right which trumps everyone else’s right to live.

I understand you are profoundly angry. He sounds like he is completely psychotic. However, that has nothing to do with being white. I hope they catch him soon.

Actually race has a lot to do with assault weapon ownership and mass shootings of this type. Most are not psychotic-just angry white guys.

Mass shooter demographics are more or less proportional to the racial makeup of the US.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Yes, that type of law might interfere with a white man’s right to own an assault weapon-a right which trumps everyone else’s right to live.

I understand you are profoundly angry. He sounds like he is completely psychotic. However, that has nothing to do with being white. I hope they catch him soon.

Actually race has a lot to do with assault weapon ownership and mass shootings of this type. Most are not psychotic-just angry white guys.

Anonymous wrote:From the Boston Globe
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/10/26/metro/robert-card-background/
"His online presence appears to have been relatively muted. He’d just joined X, formerly known as Twitter, in November 2022. He only followed a handful of users, including Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, and an extremism and terrorism researcher from the University of Maine. His account — which bore a photo of him smiling and holding a fish — has since been suspended."

Article states that his mental health issues were well known among the local community.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Yes, that type of law might interfere with a white man’s right to own an assault weapon-a right which trumps everyone else’s right to live.

I understand you are profoundly angry. He sounds like he is completely psychotic. However, that has nothing to do with being white. I hope they catch him soon.

I think PPs point might be this: imagine if all these mass shooters in Vegas, Sandy Hook, Ulvade, Columbine, Miami, etc had been black. How much harder would it be to get these guns now? How angry would all the white Tucker fans be about AR15s then???? Pretending this would not profoundly change Tucker or Lindsay’s or Gym’s view in it is dishonest.

Another example to make the point. Republicans voted for trump even though he had 5 kids by three different women. Imagine if Obama had 5 kids by three different women when he was a candidate. If you don’t agree they would be judged differently, you are lying.

Reminds me of Chris Rock saying we’ll get gun control as soon as all black people start carrying guns. Point made.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Yes, that type of law might interfere with a white man’s right to own an assault weapon-a right which trumps everyone else’s right to live.

I understand you are profoundly angry. He sounds like he is completely psychotic. However, that has nothing to do with being white. I hope they catch him soon.

Actually race has a lot to do with assault weapon ownership and mass shootings of this type. Most are not psychotic-just angry white guys.

This guy (Robert Card) is a big MAGA/Fox/Jim Jordan/Tucker Carlson/right-wing militia follower. He wanted to show the world his "rage" by shooting children in a bowling alley with his AR-15. America The Beautiful.

Links for the above?

MAGA!

Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Let's take a look at the shooter's social media activity before the shooting, shall we?

In the event you can't access the info, he was frequenting twitter accounts of Jim Jordan, End Wokeness, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk -

He told them straight up that he was hearing voices and was going to commit a mass shooting. He was failed by the VA, the system, whoever didn’t take him seriously. This is not about MAGA or anything else. It’s about a complete failure of the system to help someone. Welcome to our government.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Again, Maine has no red flag laws.

Yes, that type of law might interfere with a white man’s right to own an assault weapon-a right which trumps everyone else’s right to live.

I understand you are profoundly angry. He sounds like he is completely psychotic. However, that has nothing to do with being white. I hope they catch him soon.

Actually race has a lot to do with assault weapon ownership and mass shootings of this type. Most are not psychotic-just angry white guys.

This guy (Robert Card) is a big MAGA/Fox/Jim Jordan/Tucker Carlson/right-wing militia follower. He wanted to show the world his "rage" by shooting children in a bowling alley with his AR-15. America The Beautiful.

Links for the above?

MAGA!

Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Let's take a look at the shooter's social media activity before the shooting, shall we?

In the event you can't access the info, he was frequenting twitter accounts of Jim Jordan, End Wokeness, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk -

He told them straight up that he was hearing voices and was going to commit a mass shooting. He was failed by the VA, the system, whoever didn’t take him seriously. This is not about MAGA or anything else. It’s about a complete failure of the system to help someone. Welcome to our government.

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I’ve met that are obsessed with the 2A are exactly the people who don’t seem stable enough to have that responsibility. They’re primarily a bunch of cosplay fantasy hero wannabes who wouldn’t last a day in the militia which is what the archaic right was for.

It is coming out now that his family were “big 2A fans” and “don’t tread on me” types.

This is what that mentality spawns.

We have to take the country back.

Do you want your children’s children to have active shooter drills on kindergarten??

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/maine-mass-shooting-suspect/story?id=104342351
The suspect appears to have "interacted with conspiratorial content" online, information provided to law enforcement shows.
Topics he engaged with included but were not limited to: concerns about a financial crisis/stock market, LGBTQ+ issues, gun rights and commentary about Democratic public officials, including President Joe Biden, the information shows.
His "likes" between January and March included posts about classified documents found at Biden's home, calls for the IRS to be abolished, allegations of Democrats engaging in election fraud in 2020 and conspiracies about COVID-19, the information shows.

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Anonymous wrote:Rep Golden from Maine's 2nd District now calling on assault weapons ban, which he has previously not supported. And apologized for his failure on this issue. I want to say what took him so long - but will refrain since it seems he's doing the right thing now.

Slow in coming but he’s taking responsibility and doing the right thing.

I wish all the other places that will be affected by assault weapon mass murders in the future would just figure it out now and help prevent the next massacre.

I hate that he was fine to ignore and distance himself from all the dead Sandy Hook kids, all the dead Vegas and Orlando innocents. But he may well lose his seat with this announcement so I appreciate his late courage.

He wasn't in Congress for Sandy Hook. Maine is big gun country and this is a BFD if he's changed his tune. Americans are sick and tired of this!

This is PP - I live in Maine. I’m living this event. He was alive during Sandy Hook and that should have been enough for him, and everyone, to come out against assault weapons. But yes, it’s a big deal to change his tune, and again, he could be voted out due to it if enough people aren’t as deeply impacted as Jared is.

I am a military spouse and disturbed that this guy was hearing voices, having psychotic breaks etc. and .... going about his day? Have they determined why he was not receiving treatment through the military, and why he had access to an assault weapon? Was it acquired illegally? This sounds like a fail on so many levels. And I abhor the loss of life. So much sad news.

Idiot: Access? How about walking into a gun store. Acquired illegally? Why? AR-15s are perfectly legal.

After all, who are we to say a mass shooter can't have the gun of his choice?

Illegally due to his documented poor mental health.

Oh really? How does that work? A "Magic" "computer" "system"? Buying an AR-15 is very easy. Mass shooters gotta mass shoot, right?

Actually there is a magic computer. Have you ever tried to purchase a weapon?

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Anonymous wrote:The only people I’ve met that are obsessed with the 2A are exactly the people who don’t seem stable enough to have that responsibility. They’re primarily a bunch of cosplay fantasy hero wannabes who wouldn’t last a day in the militia which is what the archaic right was for.

It is coming out now that his family were “big 2A fans” and “don’t tread on me” types.

This is what that mentality spawns.

We have to take the country back.

Do you want your children’s children to have active shooter drills on kindergarten??

Links to the bolded?