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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearbys aq, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the WhiteA Atari House rwas about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful. Certainly the ones were the day when Trump ousted them violently. And they didn’t breach any federal buildings. And they aren’t traitors trying to overthrow the government. So…not comparable.

That’s pretty much exactly what I thought you’d say, so at least my read on you was correct.

Was still hoping you’d surprise me with a moment of honesty and just say “I just wanted them shot just because they were Trump supporters”. That kind of honesty would be refreshing.

It’s ok though. I know what you meant.

You don’t see a difference between what happened on 1/6 and the BLM protests?

They were *inside* the Capitol. Where the VP and Congress were certifying the presidential election.

Seriously?

I was at both places (working). Both were examples of angry people, wanting to be heard, getting out of control and having a tantrum over it. If you actually believe that a couple thousand unarmed people were going to literally take over the US government, then I guess it’s pointless to have any further discussion, because we can’t even agree on a baseline premise. I’m saying 2+3=5 and you’re saying 2+3=magenta.

But just be honest and admit you’d want them shot because they were pro-Trump. I could at least respect that.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

So are we adopting Swiss laws around guns?

Is that what the 2A nutters are gunning for?

Nope. Just want someone to explain how it’s possible to have millions of machineguns in people’s homes, yet not have the kind of crime and murders we see here.

How is that possible?

Guns CAUSE crime - that’s the implication we see here all the time - so how is it possible to have millions of the MOST lethal type of guns in Swiss homes, and not have Zurich looking like the scene of a massacre every day.

If the presence of guns CAUSES crime, how do you explain the lack of crime?

How?

We allow easy access to people who shouldn’t have guns.

Why don’t you want the Swiss gun laws? Aren’t they less “draconian” than ours?

You’re being deliberately evasive and not answering the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

So are we adopting Swiss laws around guns?

Is that what the 2A nutters are gunning for?

Nope. Just want someone to explain how it’s possible to have millions of machineguns in people’s homes, yet not have the kind of crime and murders we see here.

How is that possible?

Guns CAUSE crime - that’s the implication we see here all the time - so how is it possible to have millions of the MOST lethal type of guns in Swiss homes, and not have Zurich looking like the scene of a massacre every day.

If the presence of guns CAUSES crime, how do you explain the lack of crime?

How?

We allow easy access to people who shouldn’t have guns.

Why don’t you want the Swiss gun laws? Aren’t they less “draconian” than ours?

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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearbys aq, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the WhiteA Atari House rwas about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful. Certainly the ones were the day when Trump ousted them violently. And they didn’t breach any federal buildings. And they aren’t traitors trying to overthrow the government. So…not comparable.

That’s pretty much exactly what I thought you’d say, so at least my read on you was correct.

Was still hoping you’d surprise me with a moment of honesty and just say “I just wanted them shot just because they were Trump supporters”. That kind of honesty would be refreshing.

It’s ok though. I know what you meant.

You don’t see a difference between what happened on 1/6 and the BLM protests?

They were *inside* the Capitol. Where the VP and Congress were certifying the presidential election.

Seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

So are we adopting Swiss laws around guns?

Is that what the 2A nutters are gunning for?

Nope. Just want someone to explain how it’s possible to have millions of machineguns in people’s homes, yet not have the kind of crime and murders we see here.

How is that possible?

Guns CAUSE crime - that’s the implication we see here all the time - so how is it possible to have millions of the MOST lethal type of guns in Swiss homes, and not have Zurich looking like the scene of a massacre every day.

If the presence of guns CAUSES crime, how do you explain the lack of crime?

How?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

So are we adopting Swiss laws around guns?

Is that what the 2A nutters are gunning for?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearbys aq, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the WhiteA Atari House rwas about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful. Certainly the ones were the day when Trump ousted them violently. And they didn’t breach any federal buildings. And they aren’t traitors trying to overthrow the government. So…not comparable.

That’s pretty much exactly what I thought you’d say, so at least my read on you was correct.

Was still hoping you’d surprise me with a moment of honesty and just say “I just wanted them shot just because they were Trump supporters”. That kind of honesty would be refreshing.

It’s ok though. I know what you meant.

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re carrying a concealed weapon … you’re a gun nut.

No doubt about it. 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearbys aq, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the WhiteA Atari House rwas about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful. Certainly the ones were the day when Trump ousted them violently. And they didn’t breach any federal buildings. And they aren’t traitors trying to overthrow the government. So…not comparable.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you even know how to use it?

DC requires training to get a CCW.

I think that you’re still more likely to shoot yourself or your kid than a bad guy, but if you go through a basic personal and household sanity check and a permitting process, get training and acknowledge that you’re responsible if anyone in your household who commits a mass shooting, I’m fine if you have a gun. Have 10 guns. People like you occasionally going postal or killing your spouses might be the price of freedom.

But it irritates me when very obvious loons who could have never joined a well-regulated get guns.

It also irritates me when we see that NRA became part of Putin’s effort to infiltrate the United States, the gun lovers are the kind of people who try get the United States to shaft Ukraine, and to that most of this thread is probably managed by bots or sock peppers trying to help Putin win WWIII.

We have a right to bear arms to protect us from people like Trump and Putin, and then it turns out that a lot of gun owners are fine with a Putin Trump takeover the United States.

Compared with the fact that gun ownership is now part of an effort to destroy the United States, the suicides, spouse killings and occasional mass shootings are a minor nuisance.

If you’re that concerned about TrumPutin taking over the US, then don’t you owe it to yourself, your family, and the rest of the country who opposes that sort of thing (me among them) to arm yourself and be ready to resist such a thing?


What was the very FIRST thing Ukraine did when the Russians invaded?

They gave away hundreds of thousands of fully automatic AK-47’s to anyone who stood in line to get one.


Ukrainians are courageous. They armed themselves to resist Putin. Shouldn’t you be willing to do the same?

DP. The differences is that they are fighting to protect their fellow citizens, not trying to kill them.

I'm down for a legit militia with training and central storage of weapons. National Guard lite.

There is a machine gun and ammunition in the home of virtually every Swiss citizen of military service age (18-65). Yet the Swiss somehow avoid having the crime involving guns that we have here, despite our own draconian gun laws compared to the Swiss.

How do you explain this?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearby, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the White House was about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful. Certainly the ones were the day when Trump ousted them violently. And they didn’t breach any federal buildings. And they aren’t traitors trying to overthrow the government. So…not comparable.

Downtown and major shopping cooridors were TRASHED during these protests. Cars were rocked and harrassed. They were not fully peaceful by any means. Some folks may have peacefully protested by day; at night much turned violent and the rampant looting had nothing to do with peaceful protest/equal rights.

Anonymous wrote:If you’re carrying a concealed weapon … you’re a gun nut.

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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?

Shooting masses of unarmed protesters isn’t a good look…but it IS exactly the sort of thing most DCUM’s could get behind - IF - it were the right sort of unarmed people getting shot. And the J6 crowd would definitely qualify.

I’m fine letting LEO defend the VP and legislators with deadly force.

What about the thousands of BLM protesters that surrounded the White House for 3 days in June of 2020, set fire to several buildings nearby, seriously injured dozens of police officers and caused the secret service to evacuate the first family to the bunker out of fear that the White House was about to be overrun ?

Do you support force deadly force being used there, too?

The vast majority of BLM protestors were peaceful. Certainly the ones were the day when Trump ousted them violently. And they didn’t breach any federal buildings. And they aren’t traitors trying to overthrow the government. So…not comparable.

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Anonymous wrote:DC authorities did little to protect property during the last round of looting and riots. it's not just criminals, it's the potential for mob rule every few decades.

Yes J6 was bad. Do you really think the general public should have grabbed their guns and opened up on that mob?