Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 16:29     Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:If you have three adult kids and they don’t want kids it might be that they had an unhappy childhood. Yes, the world is getting uglier and less attractive for raising children but most kids who grew up in a happy home want to have kids.


I don’t think that’s true at all.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 16:26     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This medieval thread is fascinating. I had no idea that people saw having kids as a quid pro quo, a means to a grandchild end? I’m a parent and I just can’t imagine thinking that way, haven’t we all learned at this point that forcing children/other people into lives they don’t want is just a recipe for misery? I want my kids to be happy in their lives and healthy and fulfilled. I know they may not take the routes I would prefer.

Without being glib, this is such a boomer mentality- all about them, all the time. (I am Gen X- whatever happens happens, and I’ll adjust!)


Same here! I honestly was quite surprised at this type of thinking - that there’s no point to existing (and/or no societal contribution) if an adult child doesn’t have children. I understand being disappointed if someone wanted grandchildren but this is way beyond that! I had no clue people felt that way.
No one said that there's no point in existing, except the anti-kids people creating strawmen. OP said that she sacrificed her life having kids, and resents her kids for not doing the same. Lol, not much better, but let's be accurate.

Live life for yourself now, OP. Spend all your saved money on yourself and give the rest to charity.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2023 16:02     Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
If you have three adult kids and they don’t want kids it might be that they had an unhappy childhood. Yes, the world is getting uglier and less attractive for raising children but most kids who grew up in a happy home want to have kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/16/2023 21:51     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This medieval thread is fascinating. I had no idea that people saw having kids as a quid pro quo, a means to a grandchild end? I’m a parent and I just can’t imagine thinking that way, haven’t we all learned at this point that forcing children/other people into lives they don’t want is just a recipe for misery? I want my kids to be happy in their lives and healthy and fulfilled. I know they may not take the routes I would prefer.

Without being glib, this is such a boomer mentality- all about them, all the time. (I am Gen X- whatever happens happens, and I’ll adjust!)


Same here! I honestly was quite surprised at this type of thinking - that there’s no point to existing (and/or no societal contribution) if an adult child doesn’t have children. I understand being disappointed if someone wanted grandchildren but this is way beyond that! I had no clue people felt that way.


In reality you might as well not be cost yourself of kids have bo kids. Your existence unless you were Einstein or George Washington was meaningless.

Anonymous
Post 09/08/2023 13:30     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bob Barker even though he lived till 99 will she on be forgotten as no kids.

His house, money, royalties will be divided up
Among strangers


And he doesn’t care. Because he is dead.


And many people with kids have their house and belongings divided up ong strangers because the kids don't care.

My mom basically descended into depression when she realized that her adult child without children (me) was the only one of the kids interested in all her stuff.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2023 12:02     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:This medieval thread is fascinating. I had no idea that people saw having kids as a quid pro quo, a means to a grandchild end? I’m a parent and I just can’t imagine thinking that way, haven’t we all learned at this point that forcing children/other people into lives they don’t want is just a recipe for misery? I want my kids to be happy in their lives and healthy and fulfilled. I know they may not take the routes I would prefer.

Without being glib, this is such a boomer mentality- all about them, all the time. (I am Gen X- whatever happens happens, and I’ll adjust!)


Same here! I honestly was quite surprised at this type of thinking - that there’s no point to existing (and/or no societal contribution) if an adult child doesn’t have children. I understand being disappointed if someone wanted grandchildren but this is way beyond that! I had no clue people felt that way.
Anonymous
Post 09/08/2023 06:06     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:This medieval thread is fascinating. I had no idea that people saw having kids as a quid pro quo, a means to a grandchild end? I’m a parent and I just can’t imagine thinking that way, haven’t we all learned at this point that forcing children/other people into lives they don’t want is just a recipe for misery? I want my kids to be happy in their lives and healthy and fulfilled. I know they may not take the routes I would prefer.

Without being glib, this is such a boomer mentality- all about them, all the time. (I am Gen X- whatever happens happens, and I’ll adjust!)


+10000
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 06:57     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:Bob Barker even though he lived till 99 will she on be forgotten as no kids.

His house, money, royalties will be divided up
Among strangers


And he doesn’t care. Because he is dead.
Anonymous
Post 09/07/2023 06:05     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
This medieval thread is fascinating. I had no idea that people saw having kids as a quid pro quo, a means to a grandchild end? I’m a parent and I just can’t imagine thinking that way, haven’t we all learned at this point that forcing children/other people into lives they don’t want is just a recipe for misery? I want my kids to be happy in their lives and healthy and fulfilled. I know they may not take the routes I would prefer.

Without being glib, this is such a boomer mentality- all about them, all the time. (I am Gen X- whatever happens happens, and I’ll adjust!)
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2023 13:33     Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:The point is that they contribute to the betterment of society, knowledge and Earth. That is enough, imho.


95 percent of people don’t do that. But maybe your future generations will
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2023 14:18     Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
The point is that they contribute to the betterment of society, knowledge and Earth. That is enough, imho.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2023 12:08     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Oprah has three siblings.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2023 12:02     Subject: Re:If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People who even mention the word legacy just crack me up. The absolute arrogance. I mean, why do people care about their legacies? Spoiler alert: you'll be dead, you won't know, or care. Live your life for now. Love people--or don't. Whatever. But please look closely at yourself and why not just care about how people think about you now, not once you dead. You know what: stop caring about your "legacy" and you'll probably find they enjoy you a lot more.


The vast majority of people don’t have a legacy and will be forgotten. Einstein, Paracelsus, Napoleon, and the likes have a legacy. Not Sally Smith from Bethesda, run of the mill big law partner.


Nah. She will be remember for her lack of personality.
Anonymous
Post 09/03/2023 11:59     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bob Barker even though he lived till 99 will she on be forgotten as no kids.

His house, money, royalties will be divided up
Among strangers


He'll be remembered long after anyone here will be.
Betty White didn't have kids either. Nor does Dolly Parton. Both will be remembered long after your grandchildren have died.


George Washington did not have his own kids. He will always be remembered.

Can add Oprah to the list.


The closest living relatives of George Washington are sons of Paul Emery Washington (1926-2014), who live in San Antonio, Texas. They are among 8,000 other living relatives of George Washington through George's younger brothers John Augustine Washington (1736 - 1787) and Samuel.

In addition George had two step children who had kids, grandkids etc.

Anonymous
Post 09/03/2023 01:16     Subject: If adults kids don’t have kids what’s the point?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bob Barker even though he lived till 99 will she on be forgotten as no kids.

His house, money, royalties will be divided up
Among strangers


He'll be remembered long after anyone here will be.
Betty White didn't have kids either. Nor does Dolly Parton. Both will be remembered long after your grandchildren have died.


George Washington did not have his own kids. He will always be remembered.

Can add Oprah to the list.
The more apt comparison to OP's complaint is that Oprah's mother won't be remembered.

But not really, because OP isn't complaining about not having a legacy, she's complaining about not having grandkids. We should be allowed to bequeath more to our children who give us those over the others. It's not about love, it's about who needs it more.


Allowed? You can leave your money to whoever you want.