Anonymous
Post 08/28/2023 08:00     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a big scam by rich white people who try hard to promote their school brands as "prestigious" after they send their ALDC kids to these schools for easy majors. Middle-class people should be aware of this. If you blindly think that "Harvard" is such a prestigious name, so you will be all set spending a ton of money, that could be a big mistake.

CMU CS, NYU Stern, GT SFS etc. are more prestigious than useless majors at those school names that keep popping up.

If it's really prestigious, it will be highly valued in society, industries, and the real world.

Harvard English: $49,675
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3

Northwestern Psychology: $61,389
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?147767-Northwestern-University&fos_code=0999&fos_credential=3

Does it look prestigious? They are simply not.
Now

CMU Elect Engineering: $$149,740
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?211440-Carnegie-Mellon-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3

Northeastern CS: $132,227
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University

Boston College Finance: $110,242
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?164924-Boston-College&fos_code=5208&fos_credential=3

These seem more serious and prestigious.
If someone throws out some school names and tries to convince you that they are prestigious, it is likely a rich white person with an ALDC kid trying to scam you. Watch Out.



Prestige is not the same as ROI. Prestige is based on reputation, difficulty of admission, and career networking opportunities after graduation.

ROI is how much you 're going to pay vs. how much you are going to earn. Lots of colleges have great returns on investment, but low prestige.

If I am an RN with an associate's degree from a community college. My cost for my ADN was under $20000. My annual wages are low six figures. Nobody is impressed by my community college degree, though, and I don't have a lot of opportunities outside my field. I have a great ROI for my degree but low prestige.

If I'm a graduate of Harvard law working as a prosecutor, I am making mid 5 figures. My ROI is terrible. However, I have lots of opportunities to advance in my career in politics or being a judge or by joining a private law firm. People are impressed by my Harvard law degree. It creates opportunities. I have great prestige for my degree, despite my crappy ROI.


Exactly, prestige is reputation.
The result is 10 years out.
If it's really regarded prestigious in our society, have high reputation, and in high demand, it'll be highly rewarded regardless of your rich dad connection.

Otherwise, it's called scam after spending shit ton of money LOL

Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 20:42     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
MIT
Columbia
Cornell
Duke
Northwestern
UChicago
Dartmouth
Brown
…
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 17:56     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:In a sense, the most prestigious colleges are those that relatively few people are even aware of. And the very few people for whom these schools are so familiar as to be household names of sorts are the highly, highly elite. They're the ultrawealthy with fortunes that originate a century ago, leaders of various foreign countries, CEOs of major brands, high-profile media figures and celebrities. A well-known and popular school can be prestigious to an extent, but Amherst's prestige is on another level because no one who is not a master of the universe has ever heard of it.


+1.

Maybe caring about college prestige is a vice, but the people talking as if Amherst, Williams and Bowdoin lack prestige have no business talking about prestige.

Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 13:15     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a big scam by rich white people who try hard to promote their school brands as "prestigious" after they send their ALDC kids to these schools for easy majors. Middle-class people should be aware of this. If you blindly think that "Harvard" is such a prestigious name, so you will be all set spending a ton of money, that could be a big mistake.

CMU CS, NYU Stern, GT SFS etc. are more prestigious than useless majors at those school names that keep popping up.

If it's really prestigious, it will be highly valued in society, industries, and the real world.

Harvard English: $49,675
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3

Northwestern Psychology: $61,389
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?147767-Northwestern-University&fos_code=0999&fos_credential=3

Does it look prestigious? They are simply not.
Now

CMU Elect Engineering: $$149,740
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?211440-Carnegie-Mellon-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3

Northeastern CS: $132,227
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University

Boston College Finance: $110,242
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?164924-Boston-College&fos_code=5208&fos_credential=3

These seem more serious and prestigious.
If someone throws out some school names and tries to convince you that they are prestigious, it is likely a rich white person with an ALDC kid trying to scam you. Watch Out.



Prestige is not the same as ROI. Prestige is based on reputation, difficulty of admission, and career networking opportunities after graduation.

ROI is how much you 're going to pay vs. how much you are going to earn. Lots of colleges have great returns on investment, but low prestige.

If I am an RN with an associate's degree from a community college. My cost for my ADN was under $20000. My annual wages are low six figures. Nobody is impressed by my community college degree, though, and I don't have a lot of opportunities outside my field. I have a great ROI for my degree but low prestige.

If I'm a graduate of Harvard law working as a prosecutor, I am making mid 5 figures. My ROI is terrible. However, I have lots of opportunities to advance in my career in politics or being a judge or by joining a private law firm. People are impressed by my Harvard law degree. It creates opportunities. I have great prestige for my degree, despite my crappy ROI.


If you are a senior enough prosecutor to get nominated as a judge or recruited by a law firm, you are making more than "mid 5 figures."
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 13:01     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a big scam by rich white people who try hard to promote their school brands as "prestigious" after they send their ALDC kids to these schools for easy majors. Middle-class people should be aware of this. If you blindly think that "Harvard" is such a prestigious name, so you will be all set spending a ton of money, that could be a big mistake.

CMU CS, NYU Stern, GT SFS etc. are more prestigious than useless majors at those school names that keep popping up.

If it's really prestigious, it will be highly valued in society, industries, and the real world.

Harvard English: $49,675
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3

Northwestern Psychology: $61,389
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?147767-Northwestern-University&fos_code=0999&fos_credential=3

Does it look prestigious? They are simply not.
Now

CMU Elect Engineering: $$149,740
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?211440-Carnegie-Mellon-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3

Northeastern CS: $132,227
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University

Boston College Finance: $110,242
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?164924-Boston-College&fos_code=5208&fos_credential=3

These seem more serious and prestigious.
If someone throws out some school names and tries to convince you that they are prestigious, it is likely a rich white person with an ALDC kid trying to scam you. Watch Out.



Prestige is not the same as ROI. Prestige is based on reputation, difficulty of admission, and career networking opportunities after graduation.

ROI is how much you 're going to pay vs. how much you are going to earn. Lots of colleges have great returns on investment, but low prestige.

If I am an RN with an associate's degree from a community college. My cost for my ADN was under $20000. My annual wages are low six figures. Nobody is impressed by my community college degree, though, and I don't have a lot of opportunities outside my field. I have a great ROI for my degree but low prestige.

If I'm a graduate of Harvard law working as a prosecutor, I am making mid 5 figures. My ROI is terrible. However, I have lots of opportunities to advance in my career in politics or being a judge or by joining a private law firm. People are impressed by my Harvard law degree. It creates opportunities. I have great prestige for my degree, despite my crappy ROI.


+1

Yes, precisely - thank you for drawing out the distinction between the two so well.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 10:42     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
I think most of the colleges listed are “prestigious.”

But when I hear someone got into
Harvard
MIT
Oxford
Cambridge

the wow factor extends a bit more.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 10:34     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:It is a big scam by rich white people who try hard to promote their school brands as "prestigious" after they send their ALDC kids to these schools for easy majors. Middle-class people should be aware of this. If you blindly think that "Harvard" is such a prestigious name, so you will be all set spending a ton of money, that could be a big mistake.

CMU CS, NYU Stern, GT SFS etc. are more prestigious than useless majors at those school names that keep popping up.

If it's really prestigious, it will be highly valued in society, industries, and the real world.

Harvard English: $49,675
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3

Northwestern Psychology: $61,389
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?147767-Northwestern-University&fos_code=0999&fos_credential=3

Does it look prestigious? They are simply not.
Now

CMU Elect Engineering: $$149,740
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?211440-Carnegie-Mellon-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3

Northeastern CS: $132,227
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University

Boston College Finance: $110,242
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?164924-Boston-College&fos_code=5208&fos_credential=3

These seem more serious and prestigious.
If someone throws out some school names and tries to convince you that they are prestigious, it is likely a rich white person with an ALDC kid trying to scam you. Watch Out.



Prestige is not the same as ROI. Prestige is based on reputation, difficulty of admission, and career networking opportunities after graduation.

ROI is how much you 're going to pay vs. how much you are going to earn. Lots of colleges have great returns on investment, but low prestige.

If I am an RN with an associate's degree from a community college. My cost for my ADN was under $20000. My annual wages are low six figures. Nobody is impressed by my community college degree, though, and I don't have a lot of opportunities outside my field. I have a great ROI for my degree but low prestige.

If I'm a graduate of Harvard law working as a prosecutor, I am making mid 5 figures. My ROI is terrible. However, I have lots of opportunities to advance in my career in politics or being a judge or by joining a private law firm. People are impressed by my Harvard law degree. It creates opportunities. I have great prestige for my degree, despite my crappy ROI.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 01:03     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
I forgot to include the top HBCUs like Morehouse, Howard, and Spelman.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 01:01     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
You need to include the top women's colleges, the prestigious art and architecture schools, the prestigious music and performing arts schools, the niche schools for super intellectual types with narrow curriculum, that boat design school, and oddball schools like Berea College that are very selective. Oh, and the military academies.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 00:18     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Duke
Northeastern
U Chicago


It's spelled with a "w" = Northwestern


Again school major combination is important.

I would say Northeastern CS/Engineering is more prestigious than Northwestern Communications, Psychology, Theater



Northwestern theater and CommArts/Journalism are among the best in the country.


Yes, theatre and journalism at NU are top notch. Easily as prestigious for their fields, perhaps moreso.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2023 00:11     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:Just curious what the cutoff for prestige is for people in the DMV. Just HPSM? Does it extend further?


MIT
Princeton
Harvard
Stanford
Duke
Vanderbilt
CalTech
Rice
Penn, particularly Wharton
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Columbia
Williams
Amherst

That's it. People will blah blah about schools like Brown or Pomona. But it's not there. [img]
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2023 16:38     Subject: Re:What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is a big scam by rich white people who try hard to promote their school brands as "prestigious" after they send their ALDC kids to these schools for easy majors. Middle-class people should be aware of this. If you blindly think that "Harvard" is such a prestigious name, so you will be all set spending a ton of money, that could be a big mistake.

CMU CS, NYU Stern, GT SFS etc. are more prestigious than useless majors at those school names that keep popping up.

If it's really prestigious, it will be highly valued in society, industries, and the real world.

Harvard English: $49,675
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?166027-Harvard-University&fos_code=2301&fos_credential=3

Northwestern Psychology: $61,389
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?147767-Northwestern-University&fos_code=0999&fos_credential=3

Does it look prestigious? They are simply not.
Now

CMU Elect Engineering: $$149,740
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?211440-Carnegie-Mellon-University&fos_code=1107&fos_credential=3

Northeastern CS: $132,227
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?167358-Northeastern-University

Boston College Finance: $110,242
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/school/?164924-Boston-College&fos_code=5208&fos_credential=3

These seem more serious and prestigious.
If someone throws out some school names and tries to convince you that they are prestigious, it is likely a rich white person with an ALDC kid trying to scam you. Watch Out.








Everyone equating “prestigious” with “makes lots of money” just isn’t getting it. It has to do with culture.

Also valuing people simply by the amount of money they make is just so gross.


What culture is blindly worshiping and valuing luxury brand names LOL



LOL right back at you! There’s no “worship” or association of a “luxury brand”, they’re just where your family and friends go to school.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2023 16:16     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are adding Julliard, then you may as well also add Berkelee School of Music in Boston.


Berkelee has like 50% acceptance rate

Anonymous wrote:I actually think of art/design/music/performance colleges when I think of prestigious places. Places like RISD, Juilliard, Tisch, etc.


RISD has like 30% acceptance rate.
Other art programs like CMU Design has 7%, Yale art 5%, USC SCA 3% acceptance rate.
They require both artistic talent and brain (academic achievement) to get in.



Berkelee et al could easily reduce their acceptance rates by encouraging the merely talented (or hopeless) to apply. See the glowing marketing materials Harvard sent to people with 1200 SATs.



First, it is Berkeley not Berkelee,

Second, see below for acceptance rates:

UC Berkeley Regular Decisions Acceptance Statistics
Reporting Year Applicants Acceptance Rate
2022-23 128,226 11.4%
2021-22 112,846 14.5%





https://www.berklee.edu/

Top music program in the country.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2023 16:10     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HPSM (no Y)
Oxford
Cambridge
Wharton
Sciences Po
Georgetown SFS



GT, lol. No.


GTown's School of Foreign Service is the best program of its kind in the country.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2023 16:09     Subject: What Schools Do You Consider “Prestigious?”
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Duke
Northeastern
U Chicago


It's spelled with a "w" = Northwestern


Again school major combination is important.

I would say Northeastern CS/Engineering is more prestigious than Northwestern Communications, Psychology, Theater



Northwestern theater and CommArts/Journalism are among the best in the country.