Anonymous
Post 08/14/2023 09:14     Subject: Re:DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Between 2013 and 2019, DC recorded between 104 and 166 homicides per year.

In the three full years since, it’s recorded 198, 223 and 203 murders.

This year, it’s on pace to bear witness to 256.

All this has been accompanied by skyrocketing crime rates across the board.

The capital has already far eclipsed the staggering number of carjackings that took place there last year.

Worse yet, only 80 arrests have been made in connection with 2023’s 606 carjackings so far.

Prospects are so bleak that Trayon White Sr., a Democratic city councilman who originally voted to lower the criminal penalties for a number of serious infractions — including carjacking and armed carjacking — is now calling for the National Guard’s intervention in the carnage.

Imagine telling someone in June 2020, amidst the gnashing of teeth that accompanied Sen. Tom Cotton’s call for the National Guard’s use then, that a little over three years later, Democrats would be pining for the same.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 21:54     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:Defunding the police was the most destructive slogan I’ve heard in recent history. Absolute stupidity.


“Ward 3 For All” says hold my beer.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 19:36     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone. In 2022, Ward 3 had a Dem primary candidate, Eric Goulet, who had a much tougher stance on crime than Frumin. Goulet was pilloried by the progressives as being "Republican-lite" and a racist. Ward 1 had a Dem primary candidate---Salah Czapary---who was a former cop who said publicly and often what then-Chief Robert Contee has also said often, i.e., the 700 or so violent gun-wielding adult and juvenile criminals in the District are well known to police, and they should be locked up appropriately (so for juveniles that means juvie, not adult jail). Brianne Nadeau's progressive henchpeople discovered that Czapary had a campaign staffer whose father---not him---had worked for Trump, and they papered Ward 1 with signs alleging that the gay son of immigrants was a secret Trumper. We would be much better off vis a vis the Council and crime if Czapary and Goulet would have won their respective primaries. They would be backing the Mayor on doing more to fight crime, not voting for Charles Allen's crazy crap policies, and also pressuring Schwalb and the Feds to actually prosecute criminals. The police would not be as demoralized as they now are---which is the other troubling aspect to all of this, Voting matters and we, the citizens of Wards 1 and 3, royally screwed up our chances to improve things when we had the opportunity.


THANK YOU. Every candidate who saw the writing on the wall re: crime was attacked as a pseudo-Trumper. And now you’re all freaking out about the increase in crime. I really hope people don’t forget this the next time around.


+100
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 19:15     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Defunding the police was the most destructive slogan I’ve heard in recent history. Absolute stupidity.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 19:12     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need only to fully defund the police. Only then will law and order emerge.


Is this parody? Yes, we need to reform police but to just tout "defund the police" and not have any real plan for how to actually fix the problems is idiotic and magical thinking.


I think pp is channeling her inner "Trayon White" before he saw the light.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2023 10:39     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:We need only to fully defund the police. Only then will law and order emerge.


Is this parody? Yes, we need to reform police but to just tout "defund the police" and not have any real plan for how to actually fix the problems is idiotic and magical thinking.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 23:37     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
We need only to fully defund the police. Only then will law and order emerge.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 08:49     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:Cheh was pilloried too.

What is very demoralizing to me is Allen running unopposed.

Btw, I think the MPD budget is smaller bc of the size of the dept having shrunk, not a policy change so I think his assumption there is incorrect. Bowser has upped the hiring bonus, but MPD is still losing more people than it is gaining, thus salary budget is smaller.


Yes, she expressed obvious concerns about how vouchers have been administered in Ct. avenue apartments and the corresponding rise in nuisance behaviors and crime. And then she was canceled by the canceling throngs of DC. Easier to cancel than to look at all sides.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 08:47     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Can a lawyer weigh in on why parents can't be held responsible for crimes committed by minors? From what I can tell, DC Counsel keeps arguing that the "juvenile" brain isn't fully formed until age 25 or so and we need to go even easier on these kids. If 14 year olds are committing carjackings, armed robberies etc but basically can't get punished. Then who is responsible? No ONE? this is a crime lovers paradise. Can't parents be prosecuted if their kid uses a gun n the home to shoot someone? Seems like if a parent is so lax that their 12 year old if committing crimes at 1am, then they should also be held responsible.


From Day #1 DCPS hammers into AA kids that they are victims and the system is structurally against them. They watch YouTube videos of kids taking whatever they want with zero consequences. After five years of this they are sadly fully programmed and armed and dangerous. It can turn out no other way.


Looney white folk on here will attack you, but this is sadly the truth although a bit dramatized. And this is the reason that my AA son is now far away from DCPS.

do look at stats for what demorphic groups commit violent crime at what per capita rates before going off the rails.


[checks notes for the District of Columbia crime stats]

Ok, what is your point again?

We aren’t discussing Appalachia on this thread about the skyrocketing surge in *dc* crime. I have no doubt that white guys are the problem in Pike County, Kentucky but I really don’t care. See also, latino men in Brownsville, texas
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 08:37     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
A high percentage of crimes in DC are never prosecuted.

That's by design.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 08:04     Subject: Re:DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:Plummeting prosecution rates by USAO were documented by Bowser admin in reports to the Council in 2017. Why were no alarms raised, hearings held, etc?


The Council actually did hold hearings about this in 2019. But in typical Council fashion, they made it clear that they were _only_ interested in the decline in hate crime prosecutions, not in any other crimes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-lawmakers-slam-us-attorney-for-skipping-hate-crimes-hearing/2019/10/23/0422ed1c-f5da-11e9-ad8b-85e2aa00b5ce_story.html

The hearings lead to some more prosecutions for hate crimes, and since the Council didn't care about other crimes they just shrugged as the prosecution rates for everything else kept dropping. It's always crazy to me that these people kept getting elected.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 07:51     Subject: Re:DC crime stats - holy Toledo
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Exxon at Connecticut & Nebraska robbed by 2 older teens tonight, at gunpoint, before 9pm. Clerk was pistol whipped and customer was also robbed.


Crickets from CM Frumin, again.


The Mayor. It's the Mayor that runs the police force and every public safety agency in the District. If you are upset about somebody not doing enough, you should be upset about the city's Chief Executive.


So Frumin should say nothing about a very violent crime that happened in his ward? Not a word? I mean, the bar for him is pretty low because he seems incapable of doing anything except posting selfies of himself on his bike.


Of course he should say something. But I don't know why you are busy calling him out while absolving the Mayor of responsibility here.


Mayor and Chief on July 10: Please, please, please vote for emergency crime bill.”

Frumin on July 11: “I'm grappling with the emergency bill.”

He’s a spineless coward.


This bill passed, right? So the Mayor got what she wanted. What is she doing to reduce crime with the new resources and powers?


DC ruined their reputation. Defund the popo! Great idea.

Now all the cops have quit and moved away. Throw all the money you want at the problem. It's not fixing it. Maybe you can hire some social workers to "intervene".

This is so richly deserved.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2023 02:24     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Cheh was pilloried too.

What is very demoralizing to me is Allen running unopposed.

Btw, I think the MPD budget is smaller bc of the size of the dept having shrunk, not a policy change so I think his assumption there is incorrect. Bowser has upped the hiring bonus, but MPD is still losing more people than it is gaining, thus salary budget is smaller.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2023 17:24     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone. In 2022, Ward 3 had a Dem primary candidate, Eric Goulet, who had a much tougher stance on crime than Frumin. Goulet was pilloried by the progressives as being "Republican-lite" and a racist. Ward 1 had a Dem primary candidate---Salah Czapary---who was a former cop who said publicly and often what then-Chief Robert Contee has also said often, i.e., the 700 or so violent gun-wielding adult and juvenile criminals in the District are well known to police, and they should be locked up appropriately (so for juveniles that means juvie, not adult jail). Brianne Nadeau's progressive henchpeople discovered that Czapary had a campaign staffer whose father---not him---had worked for Trump, and they papered Ward 1 with signs alleging that the gay son of immigrants was a secret Trumper. We would be much better off vis a vis the Council and crime if Czapary and Goulet would have won their respective primaries. They would be backing the Mayor on doing more to fight crime, not voting for Charles Allen's crazy crap policies, and also pressuring Schwalb and the Feds to actually prosecute criminals. The police would not be as demoralized as they now are---which is the other troubling aspect to all of this, Voting matters and we, the citizens of Wards 1 and 3, royally screwed up our chances to improve things when we had the opportunity.


THANK YOU. Every candidate who saw the writing on the wall re: crime was attacked as a pseudo-Trumper. And now you’re all freaking out about the increase in crime. I really hope people don’t forget this the next time around.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2023 17:02     Subject: DC crime stats - holy Toledo
Let me remind everyone. In 2022, Ward 3 had a Dem primary candidate, Eric Goulet, who had a much tougher stance on crime than Frumin. Goulet was pilloried by the progressives as being "Republican-lite" and a racist. Ward 1 had a Dem primary candidate---Salah Czapary---who was a former cop who said publicly and often what then-Chief Robert Contee has also said often, i.e., the 700 or so violent gun-wielding adult and juvenile criminals in the District are well known to police, and they should be locked up appropriately (so for juveniles that means juvie, not adult jail). Brianne Nadeau's progressive henchpeople discovered that Czapary had a campaign staffer whose father---not him---had worked for Trump, and they papered Ward 1 with signs alleging that the gay son of immigrants was a secret Trumper. We would be much better off vis a vis the Council and crime if Czapary and Goulet would have won their respective primaries. They would be backing the Mayor on doing more to fight crime, not voting for Charles Allen's crazy crap policies, and also pressuring Schwalb and the Feds to actually prosecute criminals. The police would not be as demoralized as they now are---which is the other troubling aspect to all of this, Voting matters and we, the citizens of Wards 1 and 3, royally screwed up our chances to improve things when we had the opportunity.