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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

This is so true. Unless you are on a CLC B-level team, more than likely the majority of the girls on that team will not be playing lacrosse in college. They would rather go to a UVA or VT as a student vs a school where they can play lacrosse. That is why the social aspect is so important to the vast majority of girls playing lacrosse who are not in the top tier.

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Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

I second this very good point. Girls that know each other well outside of lacrosse and like playing with each other as an extension of those relationships is very important.

Anonymous wrote:Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

This is a good reminder for everyone. One that I try to remind my household of frequently.

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Anonymous wrote:I would also like to add that it seems as though Stars is coming and coming quickly for the number two spot behind Capital for high school. They have poured in a ton of resources and seem to be ready to be a great option.

Agree with this.

If by "resources" you mean purposefully placing all Stars girls on one of the two Capital teams because of the various deals and interconnections between SSSA, KJ, Capital and Stars, and less so based on actual lacrosse talent, then sure, they are resourceful.

Is “join the team where she has the most friends an option?”

My estimate is that 65% of girls (probably 75% of boys) on any team outside of the top 25 will not play college for a variety of reasons. Get better with good friends and see what happens. Be a leader on your high school team and develop into the best adult possible.

If being recruited is your only measure of success for a parent, be prepared to be disappointed.

Anonymous wrote:It all comes down to what you and your daughter are looking for. At the end of the day, as much as it pains me to say it, Capital Orange is the second best option right now in the NOVA area if you want your daughter to be recruited to play in college. It doesn't mean you can't get that from Pride or Stars or Metro, but they have a proven track record of getting kids recruited. You can argue about why that is, but I don't think it's the recruiting director or some magic formula, they just have a reputation of taking the best kids in the area, they get into the best tournaments, and they typically compete well against the best teams in the country. They also get a lot of kids from nationally ranked programs that are competing at a very high level year round. My daughter played Capital and her year the entire Blue team committed (3 or 4 to D3 schools) and about 15 or so of the Orange kids committed as well. Metro had pretty good success for the 2021 class as well, but the Orange team consistently has the second best recruiting track record in the area - and news flash, the Blue results should be better unless the people doing team placements are complete idiots, which is also debatable.

Debatable indeed - this is where the politics of what private school you go to, who you pay for private lessons etc comes in. Unfortunate but seems to be the norm in this sport.

Anonymous wrote:I would also like to add that it seems as though Stars is coming and coming quickly for the number two spot behind Capital for high school. They have poured in a ton of resources and seem to be ready to be a great option.

Agree with this.

It all comes down to what you and your daughter are looking for. At the end of the day, as much as it pains me to say it, Capital Orange is the second best option right now in the NOVA area if you want your daughter to be recruited to play in college. It doesn't mean you can't get that from Pride or Stars or Metro, but they have a proven track record of getting kids recruited. You can argue about why that is, but I don't think it's the recruiting director or some magic formula, they just have a reputation of taking the best kids in the area, they get into the best tournaments, and they typically compete well against the best teams in the country. They also get a lot of kids from nationally ranked programs that are competing at a very high level year round. My daughter played Capital and her year the entire Blue team committed (3 or 4 to D3 schools) and about 15 or so of the Orange kids committed as well. Metro had pretty good success for the 2021 class as well, but the Orange team consistently has the second best recruiting track record in the area - and news flash, the Blue results should be better unless the people doing team placements are complete idiots, which is also debatable.

I would also like to add that it seems as though Stars is coming and coming quickly for the number two spot behind Capital for high school. They have poured in a ton of resources and seem to be ready to be a great option.

Anonymous wrote:Never seen a group of parents of any team try so hard to justify the team. It is a B team. That is OK but you are trying so hard to explain it but it is still the B team. Get over it.

It is not that really. It is that the decision is such a tough one for parents. You can call it a Z team. The point is that parents are in a tough decision making spot when they have to decide between Pride A and Capital Orange B. But at the end of the day after much discussion on this board it seems that the girls that go the Capital Orange B route are better off whether it is a B team or not. Simply trying to help the next age group that comes up in that decision.

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Anonymous wrote:The talent difference between a 59th ranked team and a 77th ranked team is nothing and literally means nothing to college coaches. Either could beat the other on any given day.

I don’t have a player on either club but have a DD who has gone through the recruiting process and is playing D1.

It’s not likely many top college programs will line the sidelines to watch these games given the high ranking. I’d consider this a bonus if it happens and plan to attend camps of schools your DD wants to attend. She will get more exposure this way.

The added hurdle for the CLC Orange players is the club will promote their Blue players first. All things equal in player talent and rankings it may be an easier path for the Pride player who will be a priority for their recruiting director.

The difference in talent between 25 CLC O and Pride Black is minimal. They both attend strong tournaments. So the question is do you go to CLC O which has a stronger track record of recruiting recognizing that the Blue team will be its top priority or do you go with Pride which is still trying to figure out the recruiting game? The 25 team will be the first one under the new Pride recruiting director, but that team is not as strong as the 23 or 24 team so I would not be surprised if the colleges they attend are lower tier not so much due to recruiting support, but more so due to actual talent. I don't think there is a clear answer for the 27's but you might get more clarity for the 28s.

Anonymous wrote:The talent difference between a 59th ranked team and a 77th ranked team is nothing and literally means nothing to college coaches. Either could beat the other on any given day.

I don’t have a player on either club but have a DD who has gone through the recruiting process and is playing D1.

It’s not likely many top college programs will line the sidelines to watch these games given the high ranking. I’d consider this a bonus if it happens and plan to attend camps of schools your DD wants to attend. She will get more exposure this way.

The added hurdle for the CLC Orange players is the club will promote their Blue players first. All things equal in player talent and rankings it may be an easier path for the Pride player who will be a priority for their recruiting director.

Anonymous wrote:Never seen a group of parents of any team try so hard to justify the team. It is a B team. That is OK but you are trying so hard to explain it but it is still the B team. Get over it.

My daughter turned down that B team for the Pride "A" team. Huge mistake. The team had inconsistent coaching and was not a priority for the club. My daughter ended up quitting lacrosse completely because of her experience. Being on an A team isn’t always better.

Never seen a group of parents of any team try so hard to justify the team. It is a B team. That is OK but you are trying so hard to explain it but it is still the B team. Get over it.

Anonymous wrote:Again, club rank does not matter if the team is ranked above 20-25. Its the top 25 and the rest from college coach perspectives. They care about talent and respectable clubs with Directors, staff and coaches that are well respected.

This makes a lot of sense. You will see plenty of teams ranked 30 lose to teams that are ranked 60. All the more reason to play for Capital Orange, and have a respectable Club and Brand behind you.