Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:31     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It IS unsafe.


Objectively, going by bus is much, much safer than going by car. However, people's perception of risk is subjective, not objective.


+1

Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 22:28     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be able to perform my job without a car (or truck or van). i am a mom, a dad, a person confined to a wheel chair that is blessed enough to have an outfitted vehicle, a delivery driver, an EMT, an InstaCart Shopper trying to earn extra money. I am your plumber, your contractor, your landscaper, your childcare provider, your cleaning crew, your Uber (can you imagine telling someone you are picking them up to go to dinner by bike?) and lastly, I am the person who has to take their elderly mother to their doctor's appointments. I cannot do grocery shopping for six on a bicycle FWIW I'm not the one complaining about it.


All of those people would be happier and more effective if other people, who can replace car trips with non-car trips, would do so.

By the way, generally people who use wheelchairs do not like it when they are described as a person who is "confined" to a wheelchair.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 20:02     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
I have a long term hip injury that doesn’t allow me to bicycle and I would take the bus if it picked me up at my front door and took me directly to my office without stopping. Perhaps I could use Metro Access service, but don’t see how it’s any different than driving myself except less convenient.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 19:58     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't be able to perform my job without a car (or truck or van). i am a mom, a dad, a person confined to a wheel chair that is blessed enough to have an outfitted vehicle, a delivery driver, an EMT, an InstaCart Shopper trying to earn extra money. I am your plumber, your contractor, your landscaper, your childcare provider, your cleaning crew, your Uber (can you imagine telling someone you are picking them up to go to dinner by bike?) and lastly, I am the person who has to take their elderly mother to their doctor's appointments. I cannot do grocery shopping for six on a bicycle FWIW I'm not the one complaining about it.


No one's telling you, doing all those tasks, to do them with a bike. We want to make driving more painful, more inconvenient, and more expensive for the ahole who is driving him or herself to get eggs at the grocery store a mile down the street, with free and plentiful parking available at the destination.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 19:34     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
I wouldn't be able to perform my job without a car (or truck or van). i am a mom, a dad, a person confined to a wheel chair that is blessed enough to have an outfitted vehicle, a delivery driver, an EMT, an InstaCart Shopper trying to earn extra money. I am your plumber, your contractor, your landscaper, your childcare provider, your cleaning crew, your Uber (can you imagine telling someone you are picking them up to go to dinner by bike?) and lastly, I am the person who has to take their elderly mother to their doctor's appointments. I cannot do grocery shopping for six on a bicycle FWIW I'm not the one complaining about it.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 18:13     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Bikes are friggin expensive for a non POS.

Crime is too high.

I'd bike when I can park my bike outside completely unlocked and not have to worry about it, like Japan.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 18:11     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It IS unsafe.


Objectively, going by bus is much, much safer than going by car. However, people's perception of risk is subjective, not objective.


I’m afraid you’re wrong. No one has been murdered in my car recently.


Plenty of people have been vehicular homicided in cars recently though and you’re just as dead that way.

(But also: public transit has to be more convenient than driving for most of the places most people go and in the DMV it just isn’t. And I say this as someone who doesn’t own a car.)
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 17:51     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It IS unsafe.


Objectively, going by bus is much, much safer than going by car. However, people's perception of risk is subjective, not objective.


I’m afraid you’re wrong. No one has been murdered in my car recently.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 10:57     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:It IS unsafe.


Objectively, going by bus is much, much safer than going by car. However, people's perception of risk is subjective, not objective.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 09:40     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Once you are outside the core of the city, the buses don’t run all day with any frequency. I used to have a bus that literally stopped in front of my house and went to my office directly. It took maybe ten minutes more than driving. However, if I thought I might not be able to leave during rush hour, I had to drive. Then they elimated that route, so now to get a bus to my office I would have to take the bus to the train to the bus which is now a Fairfax Connector. That adds about an hour to a fifteen minute drive. Nope. And especially not when I had daycare drop offs and pick ups.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 09:33     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:Less crime.

Gunfight on a bus in MoCo tonight
Two drive by shootings on metro buses in DC in as many weeks
Knock out games on bike riders, particularly women

Make DC safe!!!


+1. Need the number of murders on metro busies to be closer to the number of murders inside my car.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2023 23:21     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
It IS unsafe.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2023 23:19     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Would love to take the bus but sometimes it feels unsafe.
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2023 23:13     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Less crime.

Gunfight on a bus in MoCo tonight
Two drive by shootings on metro buses in DC in as many weeks
Knock out games on bike riders, particularly women

Make DC safe!!!
Anonymous
Post 02/17/2023 16:08     Subject: What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

But still more efficient than driving.

Look at the NYC area subway map which doesn't even include the various train lines that go into Penn and Grand Central from the burbs. This is what prompts people to use public transportation rather than drive - because it is more efficient and so much easier to get to any subway from wherever you live.



Well, that, plus owning a car is expensive and driving and parking are both hassles...


Sure, but it's basically if car = faster/easier, people use car. If subway = faster/easier, people use subway. In NYC, subway is faster. In DC, unless you both live and work convenient to a metro (which is expensive for the average joe), car = faster/easier.


People in both DC and NYC also use buses.