Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:14     Subject: Magnet application result High School
Anonymous wrote:I have no skin in the game as my child is in but I would not brag about the "very real accomplishments" of kids who got in versus the ones who did not.

I really think it's very arbitrary once you get past the very top kids. It's more about luck. Your child got lucky. Mine got. Theirs did not. Don't devalue their achievements because some parents are confused and upset about what happened. It could very well have been you who is in that position.


Isn’t this the “splitting hairs” that AEI says they’re trying to eliminate by using a lottery? Maybe they should do a lottery here too. Then it won’t bring out the nasty.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:14     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


It's not race blind. Look at the pictures on the website. The 290 kid should get in over the 260 kid, no question.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:14     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:Congrats to those who just heard from Wheaton!! I have an Engineering kid there now who is thriving! Chose it over Blair magnet.

I also have a Blair magnet grad now in college who was very well prepared. Chose it over the Wheaton programs, cap and rmib.

Right choice for each kid. Feel free to ask any questions, newly admitted folks. Congrats!


My kid got into both and leans toward Blair because his friends will be there and it’s closer. Not sure if I should encourage him to give Wheaton a second look to overcome the commute hesitation.


PP here. I would definitely check it out, though proximity and friends are good reasons. We are closer to Blair too, and that was the main reason my oldest chose Blair over RMIB. It's a pain hiking out to Wheaton sometimes, but my 2nd is really happy with the program, and we think the school is terrific.

Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:13     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:I think the discussion is about Blair SMAC.


The list I saw from TPMS (compiled by the kids) seemed to have very few white kids.

It’s pretty shameful to come in here and try to undermine the very real accomplishments of these kids just to make yourself feel better. I think the kids know better than that. Mine certainly does.


you are such a great parent with a great kid. not talking down to people. congrats.

That doesn't mean there is not an unfair system. agree there is no perfect system. there was a reason there was a test and teacher recs before - to not just rely on MAP - which is gameable through AOPS, etc, and grades. I hear the test is back next year which may make it fairer.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:13     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has said they do take ever FARMS or ever ESOL into account. Is that what you are saying?


Where / when did they say that?


It said it in both the rejection and wait pool letters. Either you didn’t get it or you didn’t read carefully.

Definitely a lot wrong with this process .


Ah, gotcha. We only got invites so I didn't see that. Apologies
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:12     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


Maybe so. how do you know it is race-blind or gender-blind?


It’s not gender blind but it is race blind. They told us at the various open houses. It’s also school blind, though unclear if they can tell who is TPMS from their grades.


Don't believe that it is race blind or school blind going by what I see.


Haha. Well I guess you know better. We should listen to the anonymous stranger instead of the peeler who are actually on the committee. What’s your theory about both?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:12     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


I can’t even understand if they are mad that too many Asian or Indian or white kids got in? Too many minorities or too few? Or too many girls? (The list I saw —briefly — seemed heavy on boys).

At the open house last November it seemed white kids were in the minority.


You know Indians are Asians, right?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:11     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS has said they do take ever FARMS or ever ESOL into account. Is that what you are saying?


Where / when did they say that?


It said it in both the rejection and wait pool letters. Either you didn’t get it or you didn’t read carefully.

Definitely a lot wrong with this process .
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:10     Subject: Magnet application result High School
Anonymous wrote:I have no skin in the game as my child is in but I would not brag about the "very real accomplishments" of kids who got in versus the ones who did not.

I really think it's very arbitrary once you get past the very top kids. It's more about luck. Your child got lucky. Mine got. Theirs did not. Don't devalue their achievements because some parents are confused and upset about what happened. It could very well have been you who is in that position.


You are twisting what I said. I said nothing about the kids that didn’t get in, I said don’t devalue the accomplishments of the kids that DID get in, just because you are bitter. I had thought it was arbitrary too, but for kids who got into four or five programs and were therefore picked by four or five different committees, I think there was something about their application that made them stand out.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:08     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


Maybe so. how do you know it is race-blind or gender-blind?


It’s not gender blind but it is race blind. They told us at the various open houses. It’s also school blind, though unclear if they can tell who is TPMS from their grades.


Don't believe that it is race blind or school blind going by what I see.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:05     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


Maybe so. how do you know it is race-blind or gender-blind?


I don't think it's gender blind.

It's not.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:04     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


Maybe so. how do you know it is race-blind or gender-blind?


It’s not gender blind but it is race blind. They told us at the various open houses. It’s also school blind, though unclear if they can tell who is TPMS from their grades.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:03     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


Maybe so. how do you know it is race-blind or gender-blind?


I don't think it's gender blind.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:02     Subject: Magnet application result High School
I have no skin in the game as my child is in but I would not brag about the "very real accomplishments" of kids who got in versus the ones who did not.

I really think it's very arbitrary once you get past the very top kids. It's more about luck. Your child got lucky. Mine got. Theirs did not. Don't devalue their achievements because some parents are confused and upset about what happened. It could very well have been you who is in that position.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2023 22:02     Subject: Magnet application result High School
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Anonymous wrote:What are you even talking about? My child has not shown me the list but mentioned a bunch of friends who got in over dinner. I know these kids and DC has said for 2.5 years they are all the top students with 300+ MAP scores.


The top mostly Asian 300+ students have got in. Agree. Seems though that the bar for Asian kids is 300+ while the bar for others is much lower.

And? It's a county-wide program so they need to take students from other middle schools, not just TPMS . And I bet you Asian kids from North Bethesda MS or Julius West MS have a much lower bar, too.


Not the point. Just comparing kids within TPMS. If a 290 Asian boy doesn't get in but a 260 white kid or a 250 girl gets in that means Asians are just being compared among themselves. Like they are not real individuals but just a homogenous group.


Except it’s completely race blind so the commute has no idea who is Asian and who isn’t. So if the 290 kid didn’t get in it’s because there was another candidate that was better. Maybe they didn’t have all As. Maybe they didn’t demonstrate an interest in stem their essay. Maybe they didn’t seem as well rounded. Maybe your kid is just not as smart as you think they are.


Maybe so. how do you know it is race-blind or gender-blind?