Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:42     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


The pandemic happened, and crime and violence are up.
TikTok became popular, and crime and violence are up.
The January 6 insurrection happened, and crime and violence are up.
Atmospheric CO2 hit 412.5 ppm, and crime and violence are up.


You forgot to include what you thought the solution might be, as was asked of you.


Have you read the new plan?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:41     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


The pandemic happened, and crime and violence are up.
TikTok became popular, and crime and violence are up.
The January 6 insurrection happened, and crime and violence are up.
Atmospheric CO2 hit 412.5 ppm, and crime and violence are up.


You forgot to include what you thought the solution might be, as was asked of you.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:41     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.


No one is saying that is the reason for the rise, but at least there was another layer IN THE SCHOOLS to keep the students and staff safer. So, what do you propose should happen to make MCPS safe for all students and staff. No SRO's, no discipline, no consequences...you are ok with the free for all? You must not care as you don't have kids in MCPS.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:40     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


The pandemic happened, and crime and violence are up.
TikTok became popular, and crime and violence are up.
The January 6 insurrection happened, and crime and violence are up.
Atmospheric CO2 hit 412.5 ppm, and crime and violence are up.


So crime is up.. and how do you suggest we handle the uptick of crime in schools because clearly MCPS ain't handling it.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:39     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


The pandemic happened, and crime and violence are up.
TikTok became popular, and crime and violence are up.
The January 6 insurrection happened, and crime and violence are up.
Atmospheric CO2 hit 412.5 ppm, and crime and violence are up.


Pandemic is long over for MCPS.

You are rambling non-sense. So, what do you propose to keep students and staff safe in schools? Answer the question.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:38     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.


https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.


The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.


I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?


I, personally, don't think any one viewpoint is the most important.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:38     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


The pandemic happened, and crime and violence are up.
TikTok became popular, and crime and violence are up.
The January 6 insurrection happened, and crime and violence are up.
Atmospheric CO2 hit 412.5 ppm, and crime and violence are up.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:37     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:Do any of you know students falsely arrested by SRO’s? I do.

Do you know any students pulled into the police station to be questioned because of wrong info provided by STO’s? I do.


Do you know of kids who feel that security at MCPS high schools is lacking? I do.

Do you know of any kids who feel that the bathrooms aren't safe to use because of the unchecked drug use and violence going on in there? I do.

Do you know of any kids who feel MCPS administration don't care about their safety and wellbeing and do nothing to curb or stop the bad behavior that disrupts their educational experience routinely? I do.


So you don’t. Open shut.


Keep deflecting. You don't care about kids. You care about yourself and the status quo. You should leave MCPS.


You literally deflected and did not answer my question. Answer it.


No, I gave the counter to your argument.

You know kids who were wrongly accused by SROs and therefore are harmed by any proposal that advocates for increased security, I know kids who feel the lack of SROs and strong security is harming them. Whose harm is deemed worse? Whose trauma gets prioritized first?

And you also didn't answer my questions, so it's tit for tat.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


Answer the question.


Ditto.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:37     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.


https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.


The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.


I'm curious whose viewpoint you think is the most important in this issue?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:36     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.


Crime is also up in the counties with SRO’s so the SRO’s are not the reason for the rise.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:34     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.


https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.


You realize it is the same person bringing them up over and over again.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:33     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:Read this:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

It is only a small percentage of total arrests by SROs that were initiated by the SRO. In fact, of the 269 incidents, only nine were self-initiated by the SROs themselves. That is 3% of all the arrests made by SROs in the 2019-2020
School Year.


https://www.mymcmedia.org/mcps-high-school-principals-support-keeping-school-resource-officers/

Montgomery County high school principals are unanimously in support of keeping the School Resource Officer (SRO) program in place

Let's use data that is actually related to MCPS. Let's stop continuously quoting UVALDE and Parkland as if the SRO programs in those districts were the same as ours.


The principals are one viewpoint, but they are not the only viewpoint. They are not even necessarily the most important viewpoint.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:33     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Exactly, since every credible study concludes that they almost never improve matters and more often subject kids to greater risk.

MCPS used data that showed SROs can help reduce violent crime in schools.


Oh no, it was the exact opposite. That's why they got rid of them.


SRO's were removed and crime and violence is up. So, what is your solution to all this? Why should our kids have fear going to school? You do realize one reason why we don't have enough staff/filled positions is because of the issues in school.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:32     Subject: Re:Petition to bring back SROs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PG, a majority black county isn't afraid of SROs. They did it right and decided to actually survey residents (instead of a small select group) and made the decision to keep SROs based on resident feedback: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58

A district-wide survey revealed 82% of its 13,000 respondents think SROs are important or very important to maintaining a safe learning environment.







GET 'EM WITH THE RECEIPTS AND THE FACTS!

Montgomery County is the only county in the state of Maryland to do away with SROs by the way.


Sounds like MoCo is the only county looking at actual data then since SROs are notoriously ineffective.


Yet they are bringing facts and you are just bringing opinions - so?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2023 13:31     Subject: Petition to bring back SROs

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not


This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.


Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.


So there were SROs at both the Parkland and Uvalde school massacres and they did nothing?

There was security and that didn't help, either. Should we get rid of all security at all MCPS schools?


Security guards have not shown to be dangerous to students.