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Anonymous wrote:^ I think EA at UVA can yield a better result - the admissions dean regularly states that they see the best applicants in EA, and I think they take many more students in that round (and defer a lot of very qualified ED applicants so they can compare them to EA). Since athletes and development cases get in ED, I think the acceptance rate in EA might actually be higher.

What’s a development case at UVA?

Someone who the university believes comes from a family that may make significant donations to the the school.

Anonymous wrote:How long do you need to reside to qualify for in state admission/tuition? Does renting suffice? We are from New York and were planning on temporarily renting and paying property taxes in Michigan, Virginia, California, a few other states with well regarded public institutions to qualify for the benefit and to give DC an added selection of universities.

PP here. Does it matter where in the state? Think fin about if it is worth renting/purchasing in Northern Virginia vs Richmond vs Shendandoah vs Southwest etc. Do you think land/lot qualifies, or does it have to be an actual residential property?

How long do you need to reside to qualify for in state admission/tuition? Does renting suffice? We are from New York and were planning on temporarily renting and paying property taxes in Michigan, Virginia, California, a few other states with well regarded public institutions to qualify for the benefit and to give DC an added selection of universities.

Anonymous wrote:^ I think EA at UVA can yield a better result - the admissions dean regularly states that they see the best applicants in EA, and I think they take many more students in that round (and defer a lot of very qualified ED applicants so they can compare them to EA). Since athletes and development cases get in ED, I think the acceptance rate in EA might actually be higher.

ED deferrals are deferred to RD not EA.

Anonymous wrote:^ I think EA at UVA can yield a better result - the admissions dean regularly states that they see the best applicants in EA, and I think they take many more students in that round (and defer a lot of very qualified ED applicants so they can compare them to EA). Since athletes and development cases get in ED, I think the acceptance rate in EA might actually be higher.

What’s a development case at UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:^^ WM has almost 2x the acceptance rate as UVA.

But fairly similar academic stats. So more about differences in popularity than about ease of admittance.

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WM is not a "lesser" school than UVA, even though a UVA poster wants DCUM to believe that it is.

At some you point you should face reality. W&M is a fine school but it is now clearly regarded below UVA. Check out the W&M ED thread and you will see students admitted (very fine students) whose weighted GPAs (4.1, 4.2) are clearly below the line for UVA from this area. W&M appears to be playing the ED angle hard to maintain their student quality and good luck to them - the more highly rated publics in Virginia the better. But you do not see thread after thread on W&M admission on this board and there is a reason for that.

I am just another parent reading through this forum with no bias towards UVA or W&M. Just calling it like I see it from the information I have absorbed.

I don't accept "reality" that a difference btwn a 4.1/4.2 and a 4.4 with similar SATs etc. is that meaningful--and definitely isn't that meaningful to determining the quality of the school. People's tendency to use data to make a mountain out of fine distinctions is blinding them to the big picture IMO. The bigger picture is that they are top tier public institutions--with one being a more typical research institution and the other closer to a liberal arts college. Research institutions are more in vogue right now with the general population and ranking systems. I don't have a horse in this race either but I am an academic who cares about these things. I think that people forming impressions that there are big differences in quality based on a a couple tenths of a point of GPA or whatever are missing the boat in thinking about quality in higher education.

^ I think EA at UVA can yield a better result - the admissions dean regularly states that they see the best applicants in EA, and I think they take many more students in that round (and defer a lot of very qualified ED applicants so they can compare them to EA). Since athletes and development cases get in ED, I think the acceptance rate in EA might actually be higher.

Anonymous wrote:But there are many, many state schools in Virginia. He could have attended a state school that was Not UVA.

+1. DD went to GMU and majored in Game design. She was hired by Bethesda Softworks (Vault Boy) before graduation. Bethesda Softworks was bought out by Microsoft two years ago so she is now a Microsoft employ. She loves her job and she loved her time at Mason

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious, my kid has top rigor at his tough private school but a 3.8 UW/ 4.3W. 10 APs. SAT is a 1530. He is top 1/3 of class. Extracurricular there but not focused or leadership. A few local prizes. He’s instate for Virginia. Would be applying to Arts and Sciences to UVA. Should be apply ED to UVA?

He really needs to be top 6 percent if his class unless hooked but ask your high school college counselor and check Naviance

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Anonymous wrote:^^ WM has almost 2x the acceptance rate as UVA.

But fairly similar academic stats. So more about differences in popularity than about ease of admittance.

+1

WM is not a "lesser" school than UVA, even though a UVA poster wants DCUM to believe that it is.

At some you point you should face reality. W&M is a fine school but it is now clearly regarded below UVA. Check out the W&M ED thread and you will see students admitted (very fine students) whose weighted GPAs (4.1, 4.2) are clearly below the line for UVA from this area. W&M appears to be playing the ED angle hard to maintain their student quality and good luck to them - the more highly rated publics in Virginia the better. But you do not see thread after thread on W&M admission on this board and there is a reason for that.

I am just another parent reading through this forum with no bias towards UVA or W&M. Just calling it like I see it from the information I have absorbed.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:The most fascinating part of it all is UVA telling students that they look at the whole applicant and there isn’t really a number of AP classes that are needed and SAT scores aren’t that important. The live Instagram stories say this but the results show a completely different reality.

It depends on where the student is coming from. UVA can, and should, expect a lot more from a kid from Langley or McLean than from a kid in a less privileged part of the state.

Sure. What about a kid from a less well ranked NOVA HS, such as, for instance, South Lakes or Fairfax High? I suspect a school like Annandale or Justice may not have enough of a peer group and student body interest to really prepare students for a flagship state university. But these average high schools are capable and I wonder if they have some degree of admission boost.

Twenty-four Justice graduates are freshmen at UVA this year. Quite a few more were accepted but went elsewhere. Many of these students were IB students and were well-prepared. https://www.instagram.com/justice22decisions. It may not be as much as other NoVA schools, but to stay there isn't enough "interest to really prepare students for a flagship state university" is inaccurate.

It was anecdotally much tougher this year at Justice for ED. Many thought to be good candidates were deferred. We'll see how it all shakes out but what people don't realize with the school there is a strong core of IB students that all want to go there and is very competitive amongst that group. Thankfully, my DC didn't want UVA (applied to Tech) and will have a ton of opportunities at other schools because the profile of Justice and being an IB candidate is a huge advantage out of state. Worked for my previous DC and crossing fingers this year, too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ WM has almost 2x the acceptance rate as UVA.

But fairly similar academic stats. So more about differences in popularity than about ease of admittance.

+1

WM is not a "lesser" school than UVA, even though a UVA poster wants DCUM to believe that it is.

At some you point you should face reality. W&M is a fine school but it is now clearly regarded below UVA. Check out the W&M ED thread and you will see students admitted (very fine students) whose weighted GPAs (4.1, 4.2) are clearly below the line for UVA from this area. W&M appears to be playing the ED angle hard to maintain their student quality and good luck to them - the more highly rated publics in Virginia the better. But you do not see thread after thread on W&M admission on this board and there is a reason for that.

I am just another parent reading through this forum with no bias towards UVA or W&M. Just calling it like I see it from the information I have absorbed.

I’m curious, my kid has top rigor at his tough private school but a 3.8 UW/ 4.3W. 10 APs. SAT is a 1530. He is top 1/3 of class. Extracurricular there but not focused or leadership. A few local prizes. He’s instate for Virginia. Would be applying to Arts and Sciences to UVA. Should be apply ED to UVA?

But there are many, many state schools in Virginia. He could have attended a state school that was Not UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:^^ WM has almost 2x the acceptance rate as UVA.

But fairly similar academic stats. So more about differences in popularity than about ease of admittance.

+1

WM is not a "lesser" school than UVA, even though a UVA poster wants DCUM to believe that it is.