Anonymous
07/12/2022 10:14
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
You may be basing your comment on outdated information. That was probably a fair assessment in the 80s, but not today. Both are highly selective, academic powerhouses that attract top students. We're talking sub 10% admissions rates and applicants from the top local high schools (many of whom are rejected).
In my industry (investment banking/technology), USC is a major recruiting stop, second only to Stanford. UCLA is also very strong, but in our niche, a private undergrad degree still carries more cache. The access to opportunities, programs, top notch professors, and an unbelievably loyal alumni network at USC is impressive. Add the upcoming Big 10 infusion of cash - some say $75-100MM per year - and you've got a rocket ship.
Although I know less about Michigan, in our industry it is also considered strong in the engineering and business programs.
The perception and reality of schools evolve over time. In 2022, undergrads are more worldly than ever before. The notion of spending 4 years in a Red State like Texas, Tennessee or Indiana vs. living in a metropolitan area is a non-starter for many. For that reason alone, the CA schools will continue to rise. YMMV
USC's admit rate is 12%, Umich's is 22%. And didn't USC fall in the rankings this year? 100million a year is really nothing in the grand scheme of things. Vandy, Emory, WashU, and ND aren't going anywhere trust me. These red states/schools used to have segregation and refused to allow POC students, they were still elite then. This won't change being you can't have an abortion after 6 weeks.
+1
Anonymous
07/12/2022 10:13
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
You may be basing your comment on outdated information. That was probably a fair assessment in the 80s, but not today. Both are highly selective, academic powerhouses that attract top students. We're talking sub 10% admissions rates and applicants from the top local high schools (many of whom are rejected).
In my industry (investment banking/technology), USC is a major recruiting stop, second only to Stanford. UCLA is also very strong, but in our niche, a private undergrad degree still carries more cache. The access to opportunities, programs, top notch professors, and an unbelievably loyal alumni network at USC is impressive. Add the upcoming Big 10 infusion of cash - some say $75-100MM per year - and you've got a rocket ship.
Although I know less about Michigan, in our industry it is also considered strong in the engineering and business programs.
The perception and reality of schools evolve over time. In 2022, undergrads are more worldly than ever before. The notion of spending 4 years in a Red State like Texas, Tennessee or Indiana vs. living in a metropolitan area is a non-starter for many. For that reason alone, the CA schools will continue to rise. YMMV
USC is very strong in Engineering and Tech as well.
It's a major feeder to Silicon Valley not to mention the flagship school of Cinematic Art.
If money is the same, I would definitely go to USC over UCLA
All of these schools have subjects they're the best at, that not a good reason for why USC would displace schools ranked higher than it.
Anonymous
07/12/2022 09:18
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
You may be basing your comment on outdated information. That was probably a fair assessment in the 80s, but not today. Both are highly selective, academic powerhouses that attract top students. We're talking sub 10% admissions rates and applicants from the top local high schools (many of whom are rejected).
In my industry (investment banking/technology), USC is a major recruiting stop, second only to Stanford. UCLA is also very strong, but in our niche, a private undergrad degree still carries more cache. The access to opportunities, programs, top notch professors, and an unbelievably loyal alumni network at USC is impressive. Add the upcoming Big 10 infusion of cash - some say $75-100MM per year - and you've got a rocket ship.
Although I know less about Michigan, in our industry it is also considered strong in the engineering and business programs.
The perception and reality of schools evolve over time. In 2022, undergrads are more worldly than ever before. The notion of spending 4 years in a Red State like Texas, Tennessee or Indiana vs. living in a metropolitan area is a non-starter for many. For that reason alone, the CA schools will continue to rise. YMMV
USC's admit rate is 12%, Umich's is 22%. And didn't USC fall in the rankings this year? 100million a year is really nothing in the grand scheme of things. Vandy, Emory, WashU, and ND aren't going anywhere trust me. These red states/schools used to have segregation and refused to allow POC students, they were still elite then. This won't change being you can't have an abortion after 6 weeks.
Anonymous
07/12/2022 09:13
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
You may be basing your comment on outdated information. That was probably a fair assessment in the 80s, but not today. Both are highly selective, academic powerhouses that attract top students. We're talking sub 10% admissions rates and applicants from the top local high schools (many of whom are rejected).
In my industry (investment banking/technology), USC is a major recruiting stop, second only to Stanford. UCLA is also very strong, but in our niche, a private undergrad degree still carries more cache. The access to opportunities, programs, top notch professors, and an unbelievably loyal alumni network at USC is impressive. Add the upcoming Big 10 infusion of cash - some say $75-100MM per year - and you've got a rocket ship.
Although I know less about Michigan, in our industry it is also considered strong in the engineering and business programs.
The perception and reality of schools evolve over time. In 2022, undergrads are more worldly than ever before. The notion of spending 4 years in a Red State like Texas, Tennessee or Indiana vs. living in a metropolitan area is a non-starter for many. For that reason alone, the CA schools will continue to rise. YMMV
USC is very strong in Engineering and Tech as well.
It's a major feeder to Silicon Valley not to mention the flagship school of Cinematic Art.
If money is the same, I would definitely go to USC over UCLA
Anonymous
07/12/2022 09:07
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
Those above mentioned schools are bunched up with ND, Vandy, Rice etc. so those will benefit if red state schools fall few notches.
I don't think the red state school thing is will blow over like most everything else. Even if that was the case those 5 schools have such high reputation that the schools lower than them would have a hard time competing.
Anonymous
07/12/2022 09:06
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
You may be basing your comment on outdated information. That was probably a fair assessment in the 80s, but not today. Both are highly selective, academic powerhouses that attract top students. We're talking sub 10% admissions rates and applicants from the top local high schools (many of whom are rejected).
In my industry (investment banking/technology), USC is a major recruiting stop, second only to Stanford. UCLA is also very strong, but in our niche, a private undergrad degree still carries more cache. The access to opportunities, programs, top notch professors, and an unbelievably loyal alumni network at USC is impressive. Add the upcoming Big 10 infusion of cash - some say $75-100MM per year - and you've got a rocket ship.
Although I know less about Michigan, in our industry it is also considered strong in the engineering and business programs.
The perception and reality of schools evolve over time. In 2022, undergrads are more worldly than ever before. The notion of spending 4 years in a Red State like Texas, Tennessee or Indiana vs. living in a metropolitan area is a non-starter for many. For that reason alone, the CA schools will continue to rise. YMMV
Anonymous
07/12/2022 08:50
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
Those above mentioned schools are bunched up with ND, Vandy, Rice etc. so those will benefit if red state schools fall few notches.
Anonymous
07/12/2022 08:34
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
This is utterly delusional... USC, Umich?!
Anonymous
07/12/2022 07:35
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:WashU, Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice will fall as top students choose not to live in handmaiden states.
and all the NY, Mass, and CA schools will rise.
Only in your dreams
Anonymous
07/12/2022 07:23
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:My take on top 20:
1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Columbia
7. Caltech
8. Chicago
9. Penn
10. Duke
11. Northwestern
12. Brown
13. Dartmouth
14. Cornell
15. Johns Hopkins
16. UC Berkeley
17. Georgetown
18. Notre Dame
19. Michigan /UCLA / UVA
20. Vanderbilt, Rice
And who are you exactly and why should I care?
Anonymous
07/12/2022 07:15
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:My take on top 20:
1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Columbia
7. Caltech
8. Chicago
9. Penn
10. Duke
11. Northwestern
12. Brown
13. Dartmouth
14. Cornell
15. Johns Hopkins
16. UC Berkeley
17. Georgetown
18. Notre Dame
19. Michigan /UCLA /UVA
20. Vanderbilt, Rice
UVA doesn't belong in the top 22 - maybe top 30.
Anonymous
07/12/2022 01:18
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
My take on top 20:
1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Columbia
7. Caltech
8. Chicago
9. Penn
10. Duke
11. Northwestern
12. Brown
13. Dartmouth
14. Cornell
15. Johns Hopkins
16. UC Berkeley
17. Georgetown
18. Notre Dame
19. Michigan /UCLA / UVA
20. Vanderbilt, Rice
1. Harvard
2. Stanford
3. MIT
4. Yale
5. Princeton
6. Columbia
7. Caltech
8. Chicago
9. Penn
10. Duke
11. Northwestern
12. Brown
13. Dartmouth
14. Cornell
15. Johns Hopkins
16. UC Berkeley
17. Georgetown
18. Notre Dame
19. Michigan /UCLA / UVA
20. Vanderbilt, Rice
Anonymous
07/11/2022 16:19
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
Add UVA to the list. "Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin pushes 15-week abortion ban after Supreme Court decision" https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-gov-glenn-youngkin-pushes-160137470.html
Hardly. Parents who need in-state tuition value that above all else. Besides you can drive, train or bus easily to MD or DC. Also as the privates keep jacking up their fees towards $85K a year, the great publics keep getting more and more selective and jump up on the USNWR rankings (because the pool of students they get both in-state and OOS keeps improving statistically).
Anonymous
07/11/2022 09:37
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?
Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, USC
Anonymous
07/11/2022 09:20
Subject: T20 Universities list predictions
Anonymous wrote:Washinton U, Vandy, Rice, Emory and Notre Dame will slide several places.
What would be the replacements?