It is always so crazy to read these threads blaming parents for the issues teachers are facing. I rarely, if ever, hear from parents. When/if I hear from them, they’ve never been a problem. My problems are very much within the school and with there being no discipline allowed in MCPS. The training says that kids need to follow the rules, but it doesn’t say what happens when they don’t. Actually, it gives consequences, but teachers are not permitted to use them and principals have their hands tied.

It just shows how divided and large our county is. The great majority of schools do not have problems with parents. Having parent issues sounds like a dream as that would mean my day-to-day dealings aren’t significant enough to make me hate teaching.

I do not feel that Dr McKnight has enough background to bring about the change we need- especially since the change needed is so different school by school.

As far as staffing, teachers need to choose between feeling scared by behaviors or crazy parents. Personally, I’m switching to a crazy parent school this year and I can’t wait.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.

YOU may have been “shielded from parents,” but most teachers aren’t, and they’re sick to death of the attitudes and the entitlement.

Right on but I think the problem is worse where parents feel most entitled and are pushy.

Give a specific example at a specific school. How many parents were involved? What did they do? What did you do? Why did the parent feel the need to get involved? Did you talk to the parent(s)? Did you complain to your P or the PTA?

Everyone knows those schools. I don't have to name them. Examples of what goes on there are already discussed here ad nauseam.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.

YOU may have been “shielded from parents,” but most teachers aren’t, and they’re sick to death of the attitudes and the entitlement.

Right on but I think the problem is worse where parents feel most entitled and are pushy.

Give a specific example at a specific school. How many parents were involved? What did they do? What did you do? Why did the parent feel the need to get involved? Did you talk to the parent(s)? Did you complain to your P or the PTA?

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.

YOU may have been “shielded from parents,” but most teachers aren’t, and they’re sick to death of the attitudes and the entitlement.

Right on but I think the problem is worse where parents feel most entitled and are pushy.

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Anyone with a functioning brain will not vote for anyone on that embarrassing slate.

Voted straight apple ballot!

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Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.

YOU may have been “shielded from parents,” but most teachers aren’t, and they’re sick to death of the attitudes and the entitlement.

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

Anyone with a functioning brain will not vote for anyone on that embarrassing slate.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

Ew. Who says “honey” in the year 2022? You just dated yourself. Teachers quit because of parents. You didn’t even make a point for “burying”… you’re really bad at this. Must be someone vying for the “slate” of imbeciles.

McKnight is a racist. All she cares about is POC. Not academics.

Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

Again, you outed yourself honey. It's called a freudian slip.

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Anonymous wrote:Signing bonuses, competitive pay, and generous benefits is how employers fill positions. Do more than your competitors, then you will get the better candidates.

Particularly for hard to fill positions including Special Education jobs, MCPS advertise low wages and no benefit or signing bonuses. This results in positions going unfilled while candidates choose other school districts or private employment opportunities.

Valuing your personnel goes a long way, and it’s not happening most places. Not just In MCPS.

It's not even MCPS. It's the parents of this community and the complete lack of respect teachers get in general. People are sick and tired of being treated this way. You're so privileged bc you have SuMmEr OfF, sToP wHiNiNg....It's disgusting. People who disparaged teachers for two years are running for BOE. No one wants to put up with these types of people anymore.

That must be why over 800 teachers quit this year - because the current BOE supports teachers and respects them a lot?

You just buried yourself honey.

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Anonymous wrote:So they're asking families of students to identify a person to suppor their children and MCPS will pay them $19/hr??? https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/staffing-shortages-push-mcps-summer-school-program-students-online/?fbclid=IwAR03Yym6egvWLEKiPxEwK-4TwpZ-wAIDvfpgKHZE-Kpd5QNMvZSXrGYmtO4

Well, yeah, like we’ve been saying…teachers are burnt out! This should not be a surprise. I feel for the families affected by this late change.

Staff are burnt out because of the failure by Dr. McKnight and Central Office to have appropriate staffing levels for the FY 22 school year. To make a last minute announcement for parents to find their own providers to help students once again with online services shows how chaotic Central Office is right now.

As a parent of a kid that is affected by this announcement, I resent this being used in some anti-McKnight propaganda campaign. The pandemic has taken its toll on all schools but MCPS has worked through this. Sure, it's still a challenging situation, but what isn't helping is all this misinformation and finger-pointing because some unhinged racist can't accept an AA woman in charge of the county and makes every issue about their short tenure as superintendent.

As a parent of a kid that is affected by McKnight's incompetence in staffing and going on a recruiting junket to pick up two personal awards, I'm sick of MCPS CO Cheerleaders defending her by playing the race card as her only positive attribute.

Either she can do the job OR SHE CAN'T. PERIOD.

Anonymous wrote:Special education teacher here. Not burned out by the students or parents, but the current mcps professional climate is draining and inequitable for special education teachers--especially at the elementary level.

Maybe they will send an email regarding a salary boost for special education positions just before the start of the school year just like they did for Compensatory Services and ESY? I'd at least like to see supplements for teaching and supporting a high caseload.

I would love to hear more about the specific issues you see, and if you have any suggestions for improvement. As a parent, I really want to support the teachers but I’m not always sure how to do that other than saying “thank you”.

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Anonymous wrote:So they're asking families of students to identify a person to suppor their children and MCPS will pay them $19/hr??? https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/staffing-shortages-push-mcps-summer-school-program-students-online/?fbclid=IwAR03Yym6egvWLEKiPxEwK-4TwpZ-wAIDvfpgKHZE-Kpd5QNMvZSXrGYmtO4

Well, yeah, like we’ve been saying…teachers are burnt out! This should not be a surprise. I feel for the families affected by this late change.

Staff are burnt out because of the failure by Dr. McKnight and Central Office to have appropriate staffing levels for the FY 22 school year. To make a last minute announcement for parents to find their own providers to help students once again with online services shows how chaotic Central Office is right now.

As a parent of a kid that is affected by this announcement, I resent this being used in some anti-McKnight propaganda campaign. The pandemic has taken its toll on all schools but MCPS has worked through this. Sure, it's still a challenging situation, but what isn't helping is all this misinformation and finger-pointing because some unhinged racist can't accept an AA woman in charge of the county and makes every issue about their short tenure as superintendent.

Yes, that poster tries to make every thread a critique on McKnight.

I like McKnight. I can't wait to see how she does. So far I've really loved how she's handled things. We'll see.

I don't know anything other than what's in this thread but it sounds like this will be one of the biggest challenges facing MCPS this next year.

Anonymous wrote:There's a shortage of teacher because no one wants to deal with Montgomery County parents. I have various friends who are teachers at MCPS and if they didn't have the level of seniority that they have, and would have to go backwards, they would leave MCPS in a heartbeat for school districts that treat their staff better.

They are shielded from parents. I've worked in a toxic school environment (in Bethesda) and it was the principal that is the problem, not parents. I would love it if Congress sent subpoenas to principals like the one I worked under recently, but they're to busy investigating the toxic work environment of a football team instead I guess.

Principals who don't respect paras, special ed teachers and classroom monitors, and who make NT teachers curl up inside themselves should be fired or moved to office jobs. They make work suck, and people predictably leave.