Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:41     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!


We worked with the Soviets against the Nazis, because... Nazis. Other than that the US and the Soviets were always the champions of two competing worldviews. One embraced freedom, individual rights, and capitalism. The other embraced a totalitarian Communist political and economic system.


Since when does the US have a problem with dictatorships?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:40     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!


Not exactly, more like Frenemies. In WWII, General Patton said he wanted to keep the tanks rolling all the way to Moscow. But cooler heads prevailed.


Unfortunately.


LOL and what do you think this would have accomplished? In a fantastical world where he coud?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:38     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Glad that Biden is not as nuts about this as he was about bombing Serbia. Hope he doesn’t get his Cold War indoctrination get us into Destruction of the human race:


There's nothing for us to do. It's entirely up to Russia.

If Russia invades Ukraine then sanctions will be imposed by most of the world. If they don't then nothing happens.
If Russia attacks a NATO country then Article V is invoked. If they don't then it is not.


It depends on who is president. Trump said he would not be bound by article V.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:37     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!


We worked with the Soviets against the Nazis, because... Nazis. Other than that the US and the Soviets were always the champions of two competing worldviews. One embraced freedom, individual rights, and capitalism. The other embraced a totalitarian Communist political and economic system.


I can see why the republicans support Russia and the Russian support the republicans now. I wonder if the Russian trust the republicans…remember Russia signed a treaty Germany to divide up Poland. I bet they know who they are dealing with unlike the republicans.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:33     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Glad that Biden is not as nuts about this as he was about bombing Serbia. Hope he doesn’t get his Cold War indoctrination get us into Destruction of the human race:


There's nothing for us to do. It's entirely up to Russia.

If Russia invades Ukraine then sanctions will be imposed by most of the world. If they don't then nothing happens.
If Russia attacks a NATO country then Article V is invoked. If they don't then it is not.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:32     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!


Not exactly, more like Frenemies. In WWII, General Patton said he wanted to keep the tanks rolling all the way to Moscow. But cooler heads prevailed.


Unfortunately.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:23     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!


We worked with the Soviets against the Nazis, because... Nazis. Other than that the US and the Soviets were always the champions of two competing worldviews. One embraced freedom, individual rights, and capitalism. The other embraced a totalitarian Communist political and economic system.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:11     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!


Not exactly, more like Frenemies. In WWII, General Patton said he wanted to keep the tanks rolling all the way to Moscow. But cooler heads prevailed.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:09     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Russia and the Ussr were historically Allie’s to the U.S. until we decided to make them our enemy cause socialism!!
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:06     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Glad that Biden is not as nuts about this as he was about bombing Serbia. Hope he doesn’t get his Cold War indoctrination get us into Destruction of the human race:
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 17:03     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Very simple fact: the U.S. doesn’t need any good or otherwise options in Ukraine.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 16:00     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It amazes me that Americans - especially in the DC area - don’t seem to flow-chart that if we get into a war with Russia, it’s not going to just happen near Russia.

We live in the biggest target in the country.


You all will be as surprised as residents of Tokyo were in April of 1942 when American B-25’s dropped bombs on their city, when Russian sub-launched hypersonic (hopefully conventional ones, not nukes) missiles start dropping on various places in the DC area.

We’re not isolated here. This war, it happens, has the potential to be right in our front yards.


There's nothing we can do about that. We're not the ones threatening war. We're not going to surrender and we're not going to attack. We will defend ourselves though. The choice is entirely up to Russia. We are not the protagonist in this play. I thought Russians understood fatalism.


If there are missiles landing in DC there will also be missiles landing in Moscow, St. Petersburg, Sebastopol, Russian bases in Belarus, etc. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 15:48     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Russia: Give us Ukraine or we will invade
Rest of the World: We don't have the ability to do that and um did you notice that the threat is the same as the demand?
Russia:. In that case, give us Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria or we will invade Ukraine
Rest of the World: lol, ok felicia
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 15:26     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

And just as a reminder, his "demands" are Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria.


Crazy that a country with an economy smaller than Canada's is making these kinds of demands.


Russia's economy is roughly the size of New York's, so pretty darn large by the standards of US states.

If Russia joined NATO it would be the 7th largest economy in NATO behind the US, Germany, UK, France, Italy and Canada. (Also ahead of Russia are major US allies Japan and South Korea.)


Basically, somebody needs to get a message to Putin and let him know that Russia isn't the Soviet Union, and that maybe he should consider keeping the Russian army in Russia.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2022 15:07     Subject: US has no good options in Ukraine
Anonymous wrote:

And just as a reminder, his "demands" are Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria.


Crazy that a country with an economy smaller than Canada's is making these kinds of demands.