Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 14:39     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

If the city would just pass a law requiring people with unused bedrooms in their homes to house people experiencing homelessness, this whole problem would be solved overnight. You could do it with a lottery system. Addresses of people who qualified would be picked randomly, and those houses would accommodate one person off the street.

Those who didn’t comply would go to jail, and then their entire home could be used in their absence.


It’s such an obvious solution for a progressive society. It just takes the wherewithal on the part of our elected leaders to implement it.


Your would-be satirical troll post is uncomfortably close to what DC policy actually IS---which is paying landlords above-market rents to house the unsupervised homeless in their buildings. Then the other tenants bear the brunt of the erratic (and sometimes criminal) behaviors.
The PP who suggested reformation of the involuntary commitment laws and a redirection of public funds towards the creation of humane and therapeutic environments for the involuntarily committed had it right. But this---like so many policy issues---is where the left and the right fail to come to reasonable compromise. The left just wants more money funneled to the homeless mentally ill without taking the necessary step of making involuntary commitment a much easier process. The right doesn't really want to pay for humane facilities, and just wants to shuffle the mentally ill homeless out of sight/out of mind. That doesn't work either.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 14:38     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.


It's awful. A woman was attacked in the GW parking lot, the woman murdered on Christmas day in DC, the woman knifed in Logan Circle, the woman pushed in front of the train in NY, the woman killed in the furniture store in LA, the woman shot on the SF pier. All mentally ill intrasnigents. It's the stuff of nightmares.

Street harassment is not equivalent to violent crime.


Who said it is? Stop using racism to diminish women's voices.

The PPP just linked the two.

PP1: A woman was harassed walking to a coffee shop.

PP2: Women being violently attacked and murdered is awful.

There are plenty of reasons why the city needs to address the homeless problem, which is getting out of control. The fact that homeless people make you personally have uncomfortable is not one of them.


Uh no, homeless people do not have the right to harass and make other people uncomfortable.

Homeless people don’t have the right to litter and defecate in public. They don’t have the right to threaten people. They do have the right to be uncivil and make you uncomfortable. Sorry that you don’t seem to understand that.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 14:28     Subject: Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

If the city would just pass a law requiring people with unused bedrooms in their homes to house people experiencing homelessness, this whole problem would be solved overnight. You could do it with a lottery system. Addresses of people who qualified would be picked randomly, and those houses would accommodate one person off the street.

Those who didn’t comply would go to jail, and then their entire home could be used in their absence.


It’s such an obvious solution for a progressive society. It just takes the wherewithal on the part of our elected leaders to implement it.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 12:59     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.


It's awful. A woman was attacked in the GW parking lot, the woman murdered on Christmas day in DC, the woman knifed in Logan Circle, the woman pushed in front of the train in NY, the woman killed in the furniture store in LA, the woman shot on the SF pier. All mentally ill intrasnigents. It's the stuff of nightmares.

Street harassment is not equivalent to violent crime.


Who said it is? Stop using racism to diminish women's voices.

The PPP just linked the two.

PP1: A woman was harassed walking to a coffee shop.

PP2: Women being violently attacked and murdered is awful.

There are plenty of reasons why the city needs to address the homeless problem, which is getting out of control. The fact that homeless people make you personally have uncomfortable is not one of them.


Uh no, homeless people do not have the right to harass and make other people uncomfortable.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 12:23     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:UCLA grad student stabbed to death in furniture store in LA. They are on the lookout for a vagrant who was wandering the area. I have full sympathy for the mentally ill, and we have mental illness in our family as just about everyone does. The way that we have allowed (no, ordered) society and our government to turn its back/services from these mentally ill individuals, and the way it has boomeranged to them murdering complete innocents (two women in one week) is abysmal. To those who say "let them live in tents" you are fully part of the problem. You should be demanding hosiptal beds and treatment. What is wrong with you?


Don't forget the young girl murdered at the east harlem burger king by the the homeless man ranting about slavery reparations.


I guess that’s why reparations should be paid. Because that will stop things like this.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 12:20     Subject: Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Let’s keep blaming Ronald Reagan! That’s the ticket! Because closing St E’s 35 years ago is the reason we’re overrun with psycho drug addled bums today. Who knew all these folks were 65 years old!
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 12:14     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.


It's awful. A woman was attacked in the GW parking lot, the woman murdered on Christmas day in DC, the woman knifed in Logan Circle, the woman pushed in front of the train in NY, the woman killed in the furniture store in LA, the woman shot on the SF pier. All mentally ill intrasnigents. It's the stuff of nightmares.

Street harassment is not equivalent to violent crime.


Who said it is? Stop using racism to diminish women's voices.

The PPP just linked the two.

PP1: A woman was harassed walking to a coffee shop.

PP2: Women being violently attacked and murdered is awful.

There are plenty of reasons why the city needs to address the homeless problem, which is getting out of control. The fact that homeless people make you personally have uncomfortable is not one of them.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 11:53     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.


It's awful. A woman was attacked in the GW parking lot, the woman murdered on Christmas day in DC, the woman knifed in Logan Circle, the woman pushed in front of the train in NY, the woman killed in the furniture store in LA, the woman shot on the SF pier. All mentally ill intrasnigents. It's the stuff of nightmares.

Street harassment is not equivalent to violent crime.


Who said it is? Stop using racism to diminish women's voices.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 10:08     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.


It's awful. A woman was attacked in the GW parking lot, the woman murdered on Christmas day in DC, the woman knifed in Logan Circle, the woman pushed in front of the train in NY, the woman killed in the furniture store in LA, the woman shot on the SF pier. All mentally ill intrasnigents. It's the stuff of nightmares.

Street harassment is not equivalent to violent crime.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 07:53     Subject: Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP. if your brother lives in a blue state, it is highly likely that if your parents could not house him, he could be moved to a home for adults on the spectrum.

We strategically moved my sister to Arlington so that she could receive the many benefits available to people with mental disabilities. She can function but the county pays for a caregiver to help her with daily activities such as grocery shopping, cleaning and organizing, getting to medical appointments, and other activities.


How wonderful.


I am forever grateful to a co-worker who told me about Arlington's benefit. She impoverished both of her parents by buying their large house in Fairfax County well below market claiming that it had serious water and mold problems (which it did not). She got them into a senior citizen apartment in Pentagon City where they pay very little and Arlington picks up the tab for a caregiver. The parents were very wealthy immigrants but were able to shelter their money in their home country.



That's fraud, yo.


This is one of the reasons immigration visa laws are pretty strict about being able to support family members you bring over etc. Open borders folks kick and scream, but a lot of people know the A , B, Cs of working the system and do not have good intentions. Obviously her parents were first generation who had already gotten citizenship, with ties home, but a lot of people work it from the other angle.


To be fair, US citizens in DC care nothing about committing outright fraud such as school boundary fraud, mortgage fraud, etc.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2022 06:08     Subject: Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP. if your brother lives in a blue state, it is highly likely that if your parents could not house him, he could be moved to a home for adults on the spectrum.

We strategically moved my sister to Arlington so that she could receive the many benefits available to people with mental disabilities. She can function but the county pays for a caregiver to help her with daily activities such as grocery shopping, cleaning and organizing, getting to medical appointments, and other activities.


How wonderful.


I am forever grateful to a co-worker who told me about Arlington's benefit. She impoverished both of her parents by buying their large house in Fairfax County well below market claiming that it had serious water and mold problems (which it did not). She got them into a senior citizen apartment in Pentagon City where they pay very little and Arlington picks up the tab for a caregiver. The parents were very wealthy immigrants but were able to shelter their money in their home country.



That's fraud, yo.


This is one of the reasons immigration visa laws are pretty strict about being able to support family members you bring over etc. Open borders folks kick and scream, but a lot of people know the A , B, Cs of working the system and do not have good intentions. Obviously her parents were first generation who had already gotten citizenship, with ties home, but a lot of people work it from the other angle.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 20:39     Subject: Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP. if your brother lives in a blue state, it is highly likely that if your parents could not house him, he could be moved to a home for adults on the spectrum.

We strategically moved my sister to Arlington so that she could receive the many benefits available to people with mental disabilities. She can function but the county pays for a caregiver to help her with daily activities such as grocery shopping, cleaning and organizing, getting to medical appointments, and other activities.


How wonderful.


I am forever grateful to a co-worker who told me about Arlington's benefit. She impoverished both of her parents by buying their large house in Fairfax County well below market claiming that it had serious water and mold problems (which it did not). She got them into a senior citizen apartment in Pentagon City where they pay very little and Arlington picks up the tab for a caregiver. The parents were very wealthy immigrants but were able to shelter their money in their home country.



That's fraud, yo.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 08:56     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.


It's awful. A woman was attacked in the GW parking lot, the woman murdered on Christmas day in DC, the woman knifed in Logan Circle, the woman pushed in front of the train in NY, the woman killed in the furniture store in LA, the woman shot on the SF pier. All mentally ill intrasnigents. It's the stuff of nightmares.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 08:55     Subject: Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. I have worked with the homeless. Virtually all of them carried a knife of some kind.

Furthermore, they (especially the women) have valid reasons to fear staying in shelters; come is commonplace in shelters.


Then shelters need to be fixed, and if there are really criminally violent homeless folks making them "scary" , those folks need to be locked up and treated. No shelters for them.


I agree. We need to invest more money to take better care of the neediest among us so they have a safe, decent place to shelter. We also need upstream services that can intervene earlier to prevent them from getting this low in the first place. By the time most people are eligible for public services, they are way beyond being able to help themselves. I work with an organization that tries to do this. They say that they realized they were spending a ton of money and risk trying to pull drowning people out the swiftly moving river, when someone asked, "Why don't we move upstream and prevent them from falling in?"

I also know that for those who have severe mental illnesses, mandatory confinement is seriously problematic given the history of how this country used to do that, and voluntary commitment is nearly impossible to achieve long term. Even if there are nice places with good support where a family wants a troubled adult to live, you can't force that adult to go there. We have yet to come up with a livable solution for 90% of the mentally ill.


We CAN change the laws. Our legislators CAN do that. Families of the mentally ill are the ones most desperate for this. There is nothing scarier for them than watching their progressively mentally ill child turn 18 and become "unhelpable" (if they don't want to help themselves). it is seriously sad. I love the movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, but we can't let a 50 year old film drive today's policy. Let it drive us to do better. It's time to move the dial to humane involuntary commitment, and yes to upstream services to divert as many as possible before that point.
Anonymous
Post 01/19/2022 08:48     Subject: Re:Homeless tents creeping into the nice/residential part of DC

Anonymous wrote:It seems like a.war.on women.so many of the victims of these mentally ill homeless are women. By comparison mentally ill homeless women don't seem to be perpetrating violent crimes, they seem to also be falling victim and should be gotten off the streets for their safety. This homeless debacle seems lto result in an utter war on women (though as we've seen men and toddlers fall victim to these deranged actions as well).


Women are easy targets in DC as they don't have an active police force to fall back on. These guys avoid any men who go into a defensive stance but these men no longer intervene to help women they don't know - too risky. Just the other day I watched a young woman walk to La Columbe in NoMa while pretending not to notice the homeless man following her two steps behind yelling sexual comments.