Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:31
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Yeah, no. He had her car and her phone. Dude did not leave her alive on the roadside. He knows she’s dead.
He knows now. But I think he wanted to teach her a lesson. Took her phone so she couldn’t call for help. Wanted her to “calm down and take a walk” like before. He went back later and she was gone.
No, sorry. I’m not sure why you’re so invested in him not having actually killed her, but that is by far the mostly likely explanation for all of this.
I’m not so invested in it. I don’t think there have been any prior records for him. None of her friends have come out and said he was abusive or even a dick, right? I think murdering her and then hiding her body is more far fetched then him leaving her on the side of the road and her getting lost. I think he was scared and trying to cover it up, absolutely. But I don’t think he murdered her in a fit of rage and then hid her body. Maybe he did though?
Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:31
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9999535/Police-looking-murder-worker-op-Petito-Laundrie-fight.html
Link to the article referenced above.
Link to the article referenced above.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:30
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Two women who worked at the co-op where the missing girl and her bf were fighting were found murdered while camping in the area. A man with an arsenal of weapons is the suspect.
She might have been killed by that other guy. That’s what the police are looking into now.
Check out the Daily Mail.
She might have been killed by that other guy. That’s what the police are looking into now.
Check out the Daily Mail.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:19
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Yeah, no. He had her car and her phone. Dude did not leave her alive on the roadside. He knows she’s dead.
He knows now. But I think he wanted to teach her a lesson. Took her phone so she couldn’t call for help. Wanted her to “calm down and take a walk” like before. He went back later and she was gone.
I think he killer her first, THEN helped himself to her phone.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:13
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Yeah, no. He had her car and her phone. Dude did not leave her alive on the roadside. He knows she’s dead.
He knows now. But I think he wanted to teach her a lesson. Took her phone so she couldn’t call for help. Wanted her to “calm down and take a walk” like before. He went back later and she was gone.
No, sorry. I’m not sure why you’re so invested in him not having actually killed her, but that is by far the mostly likely explanation for all of this.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:11
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Yeah, no. He had her car and her phone. Dude did not leave her alive on the roadside. He knows she’s dead.
He knows now. But I think he wanted to teach her a lesson. Took her phone so she couldn’t call for help. Wanted her to “calm down and take a walk” like before. He went back later and she was gone.
You're giving him the generous benefit of the doubt when he has shown the exact opposite - contacting her mother and lying about her whereabouts 5 days after she disappeared? Then driving across country and leaving her who knows where?
He was already across two state lines when he texted her mother.
He killed her. A person who leaves someone and goes back to look for them doesn't act so callously. Like the cop in Arizona who went on a hiking date with a woman he just met. They separated after he let her hike down alone. But he still searched for her, he asked passersby if they had seen her, he reported her missing.
What did this guy do for two. whole. weeks? Nothing.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 07:03
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Yeah, no. He had her car and her phone. Dude did not leave her alive on the roadside. He knows she’s dead.
He knows now. But I think he wanted to teach her a lesson. Took her phone so she couldn’t call for help. Wanted her to “calm down and take a walk” like before. He went back later and she was gone.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 06:49
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
There are a number of domestic violence experts on YouTube that analyzed the bodycam video. I didn't really understand what prior posters were pointing out. These analyses helped me understand better.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 06:22
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Yeah, no. He had her car and her phone. Dude did not leave her alive on the roadside. He knows she’s dead.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 06:19
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Who casually abandons someone on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere knowing they're not from there?
Remember - they grew up together.
An abusive asshole. I think he wanted to teach her a lesson and it went too far. Maybe he drove back a few hours later and couldn’t find her so he thought she’d been picked up and she’s be calling once she got to a town. Did she have a wallet/credit cards with her? He took her phone prob bc she was threatening to call 911. Maybe she was picked up by a murderer. Maybe she wandered off into the wilderness. I find it highly unlikely he had anything to do with the other women who were killed.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 06:08
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Who casually abandons someone on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere knowing they're not from there?
Remember - they grew up together.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 05:51
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Update from a friend: the girl was supposed to call her friend on the friend's birthday - August 29th. They were meeting up that day for birthday plans but she didn't call.
But she did text her mother on August 30th. Which most likely was the fiance faking the text. Which means even if he abandoned her, why would he steal her phone and use it 5 days later?
Unless she was already dead on August 25th.
He also felt pretty comfortable taking her vehicle cross country…I guess because he knew no one would be reporting it stolen.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 05:45
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
I know his type. I’m betting she wears her heart on her sleeve. He winds her up by gaslighting her and telling her to calm down. She is crying and emotional but he appears to be calm and stable. It only escalates from there.He was probably telling her she was out of control and couldn’t drive and needed to go take a walk. She’s thinking she’s not out of control and wants HER car keys. Just bc she’s crying doesn’t mean she’s out of control.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
I’m upset the police officers described her as manic. In the video she appeared to be scared and crying but answering questions just fine. When I hear someone being described as manic I think if that person running around, screaming and out of control.
I think he left her on the side of the road somewhere in the desert. He thought she’d eventually find her way out of it- walk to a town, a passerby would help. She got lost and died. I think she’ll be found not too far from a road, dead from exposure to the elements.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 05:07
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Update from a friend: the girl was supposed to call her friend on the friend's birthday - August 29th. They were meeting up that day for birthday plans but she didn't call.
But she did text her mother on August 30th. Which most likely was the fiance faking the text. Which means even if he abandoned her, why would he steal her phone and use it 5 days later?
Unless she was already dead on August 25th.
But she did text her mother on August 30th. Which most likely was the fiance faking the text. Which means even if he abandoned her, why would he steal her phone and use it 5 days later?
Unless she was already dead on August 25th.
Anonymous
09/17/2021 00:12
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing to me that anyone can watch that bodycam footage and think that Brian seems innocent. The guy is lying his ass off. The cop is asking questions like "what happened" and Brian is like, "well, we got up this morning and organized stuff and worked, and went to the coffee shop between this time and that time..."
^ this is what evasion looks like. When you just got pulled over by the cops who had to chase you down and your partner is crying hysterically, a truthful answer to that question wouldn't include mundane details of your morning. That's a classic hallmark of a lie- he's trying to throw in insignificant details in order to not go over the real issue.
By contrast, she answers everything directly. And, in doing so, we can see that Brian is lying when he claimed that Gabby grabbed the steering wheel and hit the curb. He claims it's her fault. Gabby claims to be at fault for literally everything but when the cop asks her, hey did you grab the steering wheel, she looks confused and says no, and then clarifies what he is asking and gives a stronger no.
He's lying. He's the abuser.
It’s interesting that he can’t seem to stop talking. Contrast that with now where he’s completely silent.