Anonymous
09/04/2021 04:33
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:I hate to generalize, but universally the kids I know that homeschooled all the way through early elementary (I.e., no school school until age 8+) have had emotional regulation issues. We socialize with a few homeschool coop groups and the way those kids play is really disconcerting. These are kids that go to free forest school, classes, Sunday school, etc. But man, it sort of blows my mind how the parents don’t blink an eye when they behave years younger than they are.
Why is being immature such a bad thing? Especially when an alternative is growing up to fast and dealing with that crap.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 21:34
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
I hate to generalize, but universally the kids I know that homeschooled all the way through early elementary (I.e., no school school until age 8+) have had emotional regulation issues. We socialize with a few homeschool coop groups and the way those kids play is really disconcerting. These are kids that go to free forest school, classes, Sunday school, etc. But man, it sort of blows my mind how the parents don’t blink an eye when they behave years younger than they are.
Anonymous
09/03/2021 08:50
Subject: Re:11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_cpb.pdf
Honestly, the majority of kids don't go to college in the US. I would guess that the percentage attending college from the home schooled population are similar to the national averages.
"The overall college enrollment rate for 18- to 24-year-olds increased from 35 percent in 2000 to 41 percent in 2018. In 2018, the college enrollment rate was higher for 18- to 24-year-olds who were Asian (59 percent) than for 18- to 24-year-olds who were White (42 percent), Black (37 percent), and Hispanic (36 percent)"
Many people posting on this board are from a specific population that attended and graduated from college. I would guess that a higher then normal percentage of posters here have advanced degrees as well. As such, there is an implicit assumption on our part that most people attend college because the people we know attended college and their kids are expected to go to college.
Honestly, the majority of kids don't go to college in the US. I would guess that the percentage attending college from the home schooled population are similar to the national averages.
"The overall college enrollment rate for 18- to 24-year-olds increased from 35 percent in 2000 to 41 percent in 2018. In 2018, the college enrollment rate was higher for 18- to 24-year-olds who were Asian (59 percent) than for 18- to 24-year-olds who were White (42 percent), Black (37 percent), and Hispanic (36 percent)"
Many people posting on this board are from a specific population that attended and graduated from college. I would guess that a higher then normal percentage of posters here have advanced degrees as well. As such, there is an implicit assumption on our part that most people attend college because the people we know attended college and their kids are expected to go to college.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 15:24
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Wow. The vast majority of homeschooling families in our neighborhood are very well connected and want their kids to be ahead of the public schools. They don't let their kids play video games all day.
I find it interesting that the same boards here that post about working from home and how it's better than working in an office insist that going to school is the only way their kids can learn.
There are very good virtual schools out there which have been around for homeschoolers for years. Covid exposed a better option for many families.
*Your neighborhood* in the DC area, I presume. Very different than random places all over where people are scared of Covid or scared of masking.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 15:22
Subject: Re:11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Well that's terrifying. We're going to have a nation of illiterate morons.
I mean… we already do, so not much change there.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 12:29
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers are fine, but....it is just too darn easy for parents who abuse their kids to "home school" them. Remember this case? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/house-horrors-case-turpin-parents-sentenced-life-prison-torturing-children-n996326 The father set up a "school" and filed the necessary paperwork. One kid was allowed to go to community college classes, but his mother always went with him.
Now, I KNOW this is an outlier. But when kids go to school, teachers and others can see signs of abuse and report them. Of course, child protective services doesn't always do a great job either. Still, a lot of those who abuse their children do claim to "homeschool" them.
I suspect a lot of the "new" homeschoolers are kids whose parents want to protect them from covid. I have serious doubts that all of them are going to be adequately taught. Parents just think "I'm not going to risk my child's life" or "I cannot risk that my children bring something home to grandma and I need grandma to watch them while I work, so they can't go to school." Then, they register to "homeschool" them, but the amount of instruction time they get is negligible. That's especially true if grandparents are watching the kids during the day while mom is at work.
I don't think the parents are negligent--far from it. They love their kids. They just don't want them in school right now.
In ES, before covid, we had to heavily supplement as very little was taught. Most of the teaching came from home, not school. Covid is serious and a good reason to homeschool.
Most MCPS schools are fine but it’s too damn easy to have sexual predators prey with leadership repeatedly covering up their crimes. There, I fixed it for you...On the curriculum front - government schools due a much better job of educating until they don’t: Curriculum 2.0 was a travesty they kept inflicting on our kids for nearly a decade when they knew it was a disaster. MCPS still is a travesty for dyslexic kids. We homeschooled for three years and met tons of smart dedicated families.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 11:44
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Wow. The vast majority of homeschooling families in our neighborhood are very well connected and want their kids to be ahead of the public schools. They don't let their kids play video games all day.
I find it interesting that the same boards here that post about working from home and how it's better than working in an office insist that going to school is the only way their kids can learn.
There are very good virtual schools out there which have been around for homeschoolers for years. Covid exposed a better option for many families.
I find it interesting that the same boards here that post about working from home and how it's better than working in an office insist that going to school is the only way their kids can learn.
There are very good virtual schools out there which have been around for homeschoolers for years. Covid exposed a better option for many families.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 10:18
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:POC families with greatest %!
I wonder if they’re actually learning anything or just watching TV all day.
They are playing video games all day. The entire 'homeschool' idea is a farce - yes, there is a tiny percentage of highly educated and involved parents who do it right but the overwhelming majority of homeschoolers are barely literate themselves. That's why they think they can "teach" their offspring better than any school system.
You don’t know this
Anonymous
09/02/2021 10:18
Subject: Re:11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Well that's terrifying. We're going to have a nation of illiterate morons.
+1
What % are freedom/religious nutters? They will have another generation of brainwashed extremists.
You don’t know this. First, a lot of people are homeschooling temporarily bc they’re worried about covid. Others because they don’t want their kids in masks all days.
Second, homeschoolers often do a better job teaching than modern elementary schools where kids aren’t learning that much. I have ZERO interest in homeschooling, but your comments are biased and often untrue.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 10:17
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:POC families with greatest %!
I wonder if they’re actually learning anything or just watching TV all day.
They are playing video games all day. The entire 'homeschool' idea is a farce - yes, there is a tiny percentage of highly educated and involved parents who do it right but the overwhelming majority of homeschoolers are barely literate themselves. That's why they think they can "teach" their offspring better than any school system.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 10:15
Subject: Re:11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Well that's terrifying. We're going to have a nation of illiterate morons.
It already is.. but it's going to get even worse.
Anonymous
09/02/2021 10:12
Subject: Re:11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Trust the government to educate your children, they can always do it better.
https://www.k12dive.com/news/several-baltimore-schools-report-0-students-proficient-in-math-reading/443155/
Six Baltimore City schools — five high schools and one middle school — were found to have not a single student who scored proficient in math or reading in 2016, Fox45 News reports.
One student interviewed by the station said he believes students aren't passing the state assessments because the material on the tests is not covered in class.
Data shows that despite maintaining one of the country's highest per-pupil spending levels, a recent study out of Harvard University found Baltimore to have the lowest rate of mobility out of poverty in the country, a statistic tied directly to education as much as it is economic opportunity.
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Not to mention, no one homeschooled was ever smart, much less learned to read.
Surely a parent can't even be expected to teach their 5-7 year old to read.
https://www.k12dive.com/news/several-baltimore-schools-report-0-students-proficient-in-math-reading/443155/
Six Baltimore City schools — five high schools and one middle school — were found to have not a single student who scored proficient in math or reading in 2016, Fox45 News reports.
One student interviewed by the station said he believes students aren't passing the state assessments because the material on the tests is not covered in class.
Data shows that despite maintaining one of the country's highest per-pupil spending levels, a recent study out of Harvard University found Baltimore to have the lowest rate of mobility out of poverty in the country, a statistic tied directly to education as much as it is economic opportunity.
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Not to mention, no one homeschooled was ever smart, much less learned to read.
Surely a parent can't even be expected to teach their 5-7 year old to read.
Anonymous
09/01/2021 22:10
Subject: Re:11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
We homeschool. It has ups and downs. It’s not impossible for working parents but it’s hard. It doesn’t require you to be an expert but you’ve got to be motivated and organized. It’s not for everyone. Social opportunities are different and work really well for some families and less well for others. But i will say educationally, most homeschoolers I know in the DMV are secular, smart, and are producing a much better education for their kids than schools are/were. Our kids leaped ahead a few grades when we pulled them. We may send them back for high school (and are willing to let them go back anytime they would want to - both of ours prefer this to school). We have also done coops, which are truly fabulous for the elementary school years.
Anonymous
09/01/2021 21:35
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:POC families with greatest %!
I wonder if they’re actually learning anything or just watching TV all day.
Anonymous
09/01/2021 21:04
Subject: 11% of U.S. Children now homeschooled
Anonymous wrote:Most homeschoolers are fine, but....it is just too darn easy for parents who abuse their kids to "home school" them. Remember this case? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/house-horrors-case-turpin-parents-sentenced-life-prison-torturing-children-n996326 The father set up a "school" and filed the necessary paperwork. One kid was allowed to go to community college classes, but his mother always went with him.
Now, I KNOW this is an outlier. But when kids go to school, teachers and others can see signs of abuse and report them. Of course, child protective services doesn't always do a great job either. Still, a lot of those who abuse their children do claim to "homeschool" them.
I suspect a lot of the "new" homeschoolers are kids whose parents want to protect them from covid. I have serious doubts that all of them are going to be adequately taught. Parents just think "I'm not going to risk my child's life" or "I cannot risk that my children bring something home to grandma and I need grandma to watch them while I work, so they can't go to school." Then, they register to "homeschool" them, but the amount of instruction time they get is negligible. That's especially true if grandparents are watching the kids during the day while mom is at work.
I don't think the parents are negligent--far from it. They love their kids. They just don't want them in school right now.
In ES, before covid, we had to heavily supplement as very little was taught. Most of the teaching came from home, not school. Covid is serious and a good reason to homeschool.