Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 12:19     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
https://www.htv10.tv/livestream?fbclid=IwAR1IRy4J_mBFVOtNhEbqTp2Br8bNH5TF5Xf7UH-tbp1dCyzufeZz8dTE0Kc

Another livestream from Grand Isle.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 11:17     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does it compare to Katrina as of right now? Better, worse, or the same?


Different. Stronger winds, storm surge is hard to compare because people inside new levees *should* be safe *if* they hold. People outside levees along that coast will die if they have not evacuated.



This. You cannot compare Katrina to anything else because when Katrina passed, New Orleans was unscathed. Then the levees failed and the city flooded. Katrina was as much a man made disaster as a natural one.

The levees were substantially upgraded and the city of new Orleans should be spared from the storm surge. There's still three major threat of flooding from rain, the wind, and there may not be power for weeks. But it still look very different than it did after Katrina assuming the levees hold.

Everywhere outside the federal levee system should have evacuated. If not, they'll need a miracle.

I was living in New Orleans when Katrina hit (grad student at Tulane). I evacuated to a friend's parents' house in Atlanta. We were watching the news the night that it hit and were all like "oh, not too bad!" and started to make plans to drive back the following afternoon. Then when we woke up that morning and turned the news back on and saw the destruction from the levee failures...we realized that wouldn't be happening for a long, long time.

It's different this time. Like you said, the horrific effects from Katrina were largely due to crappy engineering of the levees (man made). With this one, the threat comes from the actual storm. It'll be bad, but I don't think on the scale of Katrina. We'll see.


I remember that heartbroken feeling of waking up the next morning and learning that the levees had broken.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 11:00     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does it compare to Katrina as of right now? Better, worse, or the same?


Different. Stronger winds, storm surge is hard to compare because people inside new levees *should* be safe *if* they hold. People outside levees along that coast will die if they have not evacuated.



This. You cannot compare Katrina to anything else because when Katrina passed, New Orleans was unscathed. Then the levees failed and the city flooded. Katrina was as much a man made disaster as a natural one.

The levees were substantially upgraded and the city of new Orleans should be spared from the storm surge. There's still three major threat of flooding from rain, the wind, and there may not be power for weeks. But it still look very different than it did after Katrina assuming the levees hold.

Everywhere outside the federal levee system should have evacuated. If not, they'll need a miracle.

I was living in New Orleans when Katrina hit (grad student at Tulane). I evacuated to a friend's parents' house in Atlanta. We were watching the news the night that it hit and were all like "oh, not too bad!" and started to make plans to drive back the following afternoon. Then when we woke up that morning and turned the news back on and saw the destruction from the levee failures...we realized that wouldn't be happening for a long, long time.

It's different this time. Like you said, the horrific effects from Katrina were largely due to crappy engineering of the levees (man made). With this one, the threat comes from the actual storm. It'll be bad, but I don't think on the scale of Katrina. We'll see.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 10:41     Subject: Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully Biden handles this one better than Bush…


I promise you that Biden won’t be throwing paper towels at people, so it’ll be better than the last guy, at the very least.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 10:35     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Live cam at Grand Isle. Not sure how long it's going to stay up. Reports of 28 people hunkering down on the island - I hope they make it.

https://www.severestudios.com/storm-chasers/john.humphress2.html
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 10:04     Subject: Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina

West eyewall is degrading somewhat, but we're too close to landfall to avoid a catastrophic event.

Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 09:44     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Watching the coverage is eerie. We were in coastal Mississippi during Katrina. It was so awful. And it stayed awful for months. My prayers are with all those in the storm’s path.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 09:41     Subject: Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:There is no time to evacuate all of New Orleans, the mayor said, and they are hoping the levee systems work this time.


Hope is always a great strategy. Right up there with praying.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 09:38     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does it compare to Katrina as of right now? Better, worse, or the same?


Different. Stronger winds, storm surge is hard to compare because people inside new levees *should* be safe *if* they hold. People outside levees along that coast will die if they have not evacuated.



This. You cannot compare Katrina to anything else because when Katrina passed, New Orleans was unscathed. Then the levees failed and the city flooded. Katrina was as much a man made disaster as a natural one.

The levees were substantially upgraded and the city of new Orleans should be spared from the storm surge. There's still three major threat of flooding from rain, the wind, and there may not be power for weeks. But it still look very different than it did after Katrina assuming the levees hold.

Everywhere outside the federal levee system should have evacuated. If not, they'll need a miracle.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 09:32     Subject: Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Hopefully Biden handles this one better than Bush…
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 09:30     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:How does it compare to Katrina as of right now? Better, worse, or the same?


It depends on the strength, track and the speed of the storm. If it tracks a little east of South Pass(the southern part of the Mississippi delta channel) it will push water up in to Lake Pontchartrain. The storm looks weaker vs Katrina with a small wind field, track looks a little west of the worst for New Orleans and speed look pretty good. Still lots of damage but there is not much west of the delta.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 09:00     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 08:58     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
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An extreme wind warning is in effect for Houma LA, Bayou Cane LA, Estelle LA until 10:45 AM CDT for extremely dangerous hurricane winds. Treat these imminent extreme winds as if a tornado was approaching and move immediately to an interior room or shelter NOW!. pic.twitter.com/epznSuFe1J

— NWS New Orleans (@NWSNewOrleans) August 29, 2021</blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 08:44     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Soon to be category 5
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2021 08:38     Subject: Re:Hurricane Ida, on 16th anniversary of Katrina
Anonymous wrote:How does it compare to Katrina as of right now? Better, worse, or the same?


Different. Stronger winds, storm surge is hard to compare because people inside new levees *should* be safe *if* they hold. People outside levees along that coast will die if they have not evacuated.