Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 15:48     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:Tons of threads here and on AEM about air filters almost nothing on the lost learning as demonstrated by SOL scores.

But I guess it doesn’t really matter bc all the air filter people aren’t concerned bc it was just those brown kids and their white kids are fine so you know air filters are far more pressing


That’s because standardized tests are racist, pointless, and just plain mean-spirited in a pandemic year. (That’s sarcasm)

The flaws in SOL testing were there in 2018 and 2019 as well. The 2021 drop tells us something, as much as people might want to wish it away.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 15:14     Subject: APS air filters

Tons of threads here and on AEM about air filters almost nothing on the lost learning as demonstrated by SOL scores.

But I guess it doesn’t really matter bc all the air filter people aren’t concerned bc it was just those brown kids and their white kids are fine so you know air filters are far more pressing
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 09:06     Subject: Re:APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:It’s probably the same idiots who are against masks and don’t want their kids to eat outside because the little snowflakes might have to sit on the ground.


Ha! So true.

Maybe they should just stay home! To borrow their own favorite line. Or move to Texas and find their people. Here in Arlington that doesn’t sell well.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 08:57     Subject: Re:APS air filters

It’s probably the same idiots who are against masks and don’t want their kids to eat outside because the little snowflakes might have to sit on the ground.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 08:42     Subject: Re:APS air filters

Ha ha ha, don’t hold your breath. Haters gonna hate with their cowardly anonymous online attacks because that’’s their MO.

So sad that while some parents try to get better safety, others are just haters. But that’s where we are in America in 2021. Look at this very long thread that they keep going. Some parents really hate safety measures in schools and anyone who advocates for them. It would be funny if it wasn’t so very sad.


Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 07:03     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Air lady! Give it a break!


I don’t get the issue with air lady. She’s not advocating for shutting down schools, just making them more safe. The safer schools are the less likely we will get a covid outbreak and the less likely schools will end up shutting down. Isn’t that something we all want to avoid?


I think she is advocating for shutting down schools although she doesn’t use those words. She has zero perspective and thinks she is an expert. Did you catch the Uber hysterical post on arl neighbors?


If you think she's advocating for shutting down schools, that's your own paranoia.

A lot of school have shut down already -- the ones without the things she's advocating for. If you want schools to stay open, stopping opposing things like better ventilation. Unless you just want Covid to spread and that's your agenda, which is what it sounds like.


Arlington has among the highest vaccination rates in the country (and now it's mandated in schools for staff), and has put in more mitigation measures than most school districts, even neighboring ones. I'm confident that our children and staff will be okay. There may be some quarantines, but that's always the risk you took when you signed up for in person school. Even with every mitigation you want in place, you are taking risk. There's only so much Syphax can do with the funding they already have. But I'm happy with what they were able to accomplish, and I feel fine with the mitigation plan in place.

I don't think anyone opposes more mitigation measures necessarily. I even advocated for outdoor lunch at my school, but not as a organized effort with someone giving me talking points and "guidance". Most of us just oppose the incessant "expert"-laden posts and gloom and doom she and her friends constantly post. It's not effective, and like you're seeing here and in other posts, it's backfiring. And I'm saying this as a "normal" parent, not someone affiliated with APE or Open Schools Now.



What is wrong with an organized effort to have lunch outdoors? Isn’t the goal to keep schools open? Wouldn’t lunch outdoors, better filters and open windows help stop the spread of the virus? Yep ventilation lady is crazy but a lot of what she is saying is true. Let’s focus on that.



I think they just need to get out of their own way. Of course most people want schools to be as safe as possible. Ventilation Lady and Outdoor Lunch lady though are drowning the message in hysteria and repetition across several pages. It’s a total turn off. More people may engage if the same people weren’t posting over and over again. They need new messengers who aren’t so… offputting.


So step up and help spread the message.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 06:59     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Air lady! Give it a break!


I don’t get the issue with air lady. She’s not advocating for shutting down schools, just making them more safe. The safer schools are the less likely we will get a covid outbreak and the less likely schools will end up shutting down. Isn’t that something we all want to avoid?


I think she is advocating for shutting down schools although she doesn’t use those words. She has zero perspective and thinks she is an expert. Did you catch the Uber hysterical post on arl neighbors?


If you think she's advocating for shutting down schools, that's your own paranoia.

A lot of school have shut down already -- the ones without the things she's advocating for. If you want schools to stay open, stopping opposing things like better ventilation. Unless you just want Covid to spread and that's your agenda, which is what it sounds like.


Arlington has among the highest vaccination rates in the country (and now it's mandated in schools for staff), and has put in more mitigation measures than most school districts, even neighboring ones. I'm confident that our children and staff will be okay. There may be some quarantines, but that's always the risk you took when you signed up for in person school. Even with every mitigation you want in place, you are taking risk. There's only so much Syphax can do with the funding they already have. But I'm happy with what they were able to accomplish, and I feel fine with the mitigation plan in place.

I don't think anyone opposes more mitigation measures necessarily. I even advocated for outdoor lunch at my school, but not as a organized effort with someone giving me talking points and "guidance". Most of us just oppose the incessant "expert"-laden posts and gloom and doom she and her friends constantly post. It's not effective, and like you're seeing here and in other posts, it's backfiring. And I'm saying this as a "normal" parent, not someone affiliated with APE or Open Schools Now.



What is wrong with an organized effort to have lunch outdoors? Isn’t the goal to keep schools open? Wouldn’t lunch outdoors, better filters and open windows help stop the spread of the virus? Yep ventilation lady is crazy but a lot of what she is saying is true. Let’s focus on that.



I think they just need to get out of their own way. Of course most people want schools to be as safe as possible. Ventilation Lady and Outdoor Lunch lady though are drowning the message in hysteria and repetition across several pages. It’s a total turn off. More people may engage if the same people weren’t posting over and over again. They need new messengers who aren’t so… offputting.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 22:27     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Air lady! Give it a break!


I don’t get the issue with air lady. She’s not advocating for shutting down schools, just making them more safe. The safer schools are the less likely we will get a covid outbreak and the less likely schools will end up shutting down. Isn’t that something we all want to avoid?


I think she is advocating for shutting down schools although she doesn’t use those words. She has zero perspective and thinks she is an expert. Did you catch the Uber hysterical post on arl neighbors?


If you think she's advocating for shutting down schools, that's your own paranoia.

A lot of school have shut down already -- the ones without the things she's advocating for. If you want schools to stay open, stopping opposing things like better ventilation. Unless you just want Covid to spread and that's your agenda, which is what it sounds like.


Arlington has among the highest vaccination rates in the country (and now it's mandated in schools for staff), and has put in more mitigation measures than most school districts, even neighboring ones. I'm confident that our children and staff will be okay. There may be some quarantines, but that's always the risk you took when you signed up for in person school. Even with every mitigation you want in place, you are taking risk. There's only so much Syphax can do with the funding they already have. But I'm happy with what they were able to accomplish, and I feel fine with the mitigation plan in place.

I don't think anyone opposes more mitigation measures necessarily. I even advocated for outdoor lunch at my school, but not as a organized effort with someone giving me talking points and "guidance". Most of us just oppose the incessant "expert"-laden posts and gloom and doom she and her friends constantly post. It's not effective, and like you're seeing here and in other posts, it's backfiring. And I'm saying this as a "normal" parent, not someone affiliated with APE or Open Schools Now.



What is wrong with an organized effort to have lunch outdoors? Isn’t the goal to keep schools open? Wouldn’t lunch outdoors, better filters and open windows help stop the spread of the virus? Yep ventilation lady is crazy but a lot of what she is saying is true. Let’s focus on that.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 21:22     Subject: Re:APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think ventilation lady loses whatever credibility she has remaining when she posts crap like she just did. She posts delta is more transmissible! 50 percent attack rate from a asymptomatic teacher. She links to a cdc study about Marin county. Did she read it? First paragraph states that the teacher was unvaccinated. 3rd paragraph notes that she took her mask off while reading in the classroom. Further down notes that she was symptomatic and taught for two days with a fever and cough. So a maskless unvaccinated coughing feverish teacher spread covid to 1/2 her students. Shocking.


So…..ignore her posts?

Seems like you should have better things to do with your time.


Yes, ignore her posts like everyone else. Even her posts elsewhere are getting very little engagement except from her support group. She honestly should try to get a virtual exemption from her pediatrician since she's so scared to go back to school.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 18:21     Subject: Re:APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:I think ventilation lady loses whatever credibility she has remaining when she posts crap like she just did. She posts delta is more transmissible! 50 percent attack rate from a asymptomatic teacher. She links to a cdc study about Marin county. Did she read it? First paragraph states that the teacher was unvaccinated. 3rd paragraph notes that she took her mask off while reading in the classroom. Further down notes that she was symptomatic and taught for two days with a fever and cough. So a maskless unvaccinated coughing feverish teacher spread covid to 1/2 her students. Shocking.


So…..ignore her posts?

Seems like you should have better things to do with your time.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 17:42     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought they bought HEPA because ionizing/UV were not safe.


Op here. This is such a cluster. Where are the open schools now parents?


They sent their kids to private school.


Yep.


Discovery lost 110 students… It was not a large school to begin with. Where do you think they all went?
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 17:36     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought they bought HEPA because ionizing/UV were not safe.


Op here. This is such a cluster. Where are the open schools now parents?


They sent their kids to private school.


Yep.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 17:24     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought they bought HEPA because ionizing/UV were not safe.


APS bought Blue Air "HEPASilent". They are not HEPA filters. Here's a thread on them from an indoor air quality expert: https://twitter.com/marwa_zaatari/status/1375160654953340939


Seriously? This Twitter thread is not reassuring.


Unfortunately, yes. While ventilation lady regularly engages in histrionics, she is right to at least be ringing the alarm bell on this one. While they're not deadly, they aren't as good as APS has led the APS community to believe. So many people think that APS bought HEPA filters and everything will be fine now (and that those who are pushing back on that sentiment are fearmongerers).
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 16:55     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought they bought HEPA because ionizing/UV were not safe.


APS bought Blue Air "HEPASilent". They are not HEPA filters. Here's a thread on them from an indoor air quality expert: https://twitter.com/marwa_zaatari/status/1375160654953340939


Seriously? This Twitter thread is not reassuring.
Anonymous
Post 08/27/2021 15:41     Subject: APS air filters

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought they bought HEPA because ionizing/UV were not safe.


Op here. This is such a cluster. Where are the open schools now parents?


They sent their kids to private school.