Anonymous
08/27/2021 21:57
Subject: A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Anonymous wrote:Why is ward 8 represented by this crazy person
If you knew anything about ward 8, you’d know that he was a community organizer before he was elected and ppl in ward 8 know him. He’s always organizing something to get daily necessities such as food, jobs, healthcare etc to his constituents. When dcps didn’t renew a principal’s contract (a form of retaliation) who was loved by the community & staff. He got involved. He actually cares about Ward 8.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 14:43
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Anonymous wrote:Do YOU want to confront that angry mom when she finds out what you have done to her child? Hint: she is not going to send an email.
This is a global problem that needs a global solution.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 14:43
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Do YOU want to confront that angry mom when she finds out what you have done to her child? Hint: she is not going to send an email.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 14:38
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Passing a law will not make teachers show up at work or students show up at school.
The 10% unvaxxed teachers are just not going to do it. Can they be replaced? -- maybe not. Accepting weekly testing seems like a good compromise.
Demanding vaccinations for age 12+ students in wards 7 and 8 is going nowhere. The vaccination rate for adults in those wards is something like 30%. Unvaxxed adults are not going to vaccinate their children. And teenage children are not known for cheerful compliance with adults' requests. Who is going to drag an unruly 16 year old to the doctor?
Are you willing to turn away 70% of middle and high schools students in wards 7 and 8? Bad optics to say the least. And it would just not be right.
Reality says you cannot successfully impose a vaccination requirement on DC public school students. Passing a law will not change that.
Find another solution.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but your "reality" is missing that in reality we have mandated other vaccinations, and the students in Wards 7 and 8 somehow managed to satisfy those. So either their parents take them to get the vaccinations or they otherwise get them (through other services).
Very different circumstances for early childhood vaccines. The kids are young, the vaccines are convincingly proven to be safe. Here the parents are too suspicious or disengaged to get themselves vaccinated. No good parent with that viewpoint is going to vaccinate their teenage children. And the kids are probably just as suspicious. You cannot sell vaccinations to this group. Just not going to go for it. And the kids are not going to show up for bogus remote learning, either.
This fight would demonstrate that the non-vaxxers can win. Don't take that chance.
Eh. You just put the vaccine clinic at school and vaccinate all the kids. DC allows kids to be vaccinated without parental consent.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 14:37
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Anonymous wrote:Passing a law will not make teachers show up at work or students show up at school.
The 10% unvaxxed teachers are just not going to do it. Can they be replaced? -- maybe not. Accepting weekly testing seems like a good compromise.
Demanding vaccinations for age 12+ students in wards 7 and 8 is going nowhere. The vaccination rate for adults in those wards is something like 30%. Unvaxxed adults are not going to vaccinate their children. And teenage children are not known for cheerful compliance with adults' requests. Who is going to drag an unruly 16 year old to the doctor?
Are you willing to turn away 70% of middle and high schools students in wards 7 and 8? Bad optics to say the least. And it would just not be right.
Reality says you cannot successfully impose a vaccination requirement on DC public school students. Passing a law will not change that.
Find another solution.
Yes, I am 100% fine with unvaccinated teachers quitting because they refuse to vaccinated. Because adults are a huge, disproportionate share of covid cases in DCPS. Unvaccinated adults spreading covid in schools are going to create much more disruption than the small number that will quit. And I can only imagine it will be a very small number that actually quit.
As for the child mandated vax - also unconcerned. We ALREADY mandate vaccines for even less risky diseases (chicken pox, HPV.)
Anonymous
08/27/2021 14:21
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Passing a law will not make teachers show up at work or students show up at school.
The 10% unvaxxed teachers are just not going to do it. Can they be replaced? -- maybe not. Accepting weekly testing seems like a good compromise.
Demanding vaccinations for age 12+ students in wards 7 and 8 is going nowhere. The vaccination rate for adults in those wards is something like 30%. Unvaxxed adults are not going to vaccinate their children. And teenage children are not known for cheerful compliance with adults' requests. Who is going to drag an unruly 16 year old to the doctor?
Are you willing to turn away 70% of middle and high schools students in wards 7 and 8? Bad optics to say the least. And it would just not be right.
Reality says you cannot successfully impose a vaccination requirement on DC public school students. Passing a law will not change that.
Find another solution.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but your "reality" is missing that in reality we have mandated other vaccinations, and the students in Wards 7 and 8 somehow managed to satisfy those. So either their parents take them to get the vaccinations or they otherwise get them (through other services).
Very different circumstances for early childhood vaccines. The kids are young, the vaccines are convincingly proven to be safe. Here the parents are too suspicious or disengaged to get themselves vaccinated. No good parent with that viewpoint is going to vaccinate their teenage children. And the kids are probably just as suspicious. You cannot sell vaccinations to this group. Just not going to go for it. And the kids are not going to show up for bogus remote learning, either.
This fight would demonstrate that the non-vaxxers can win. Don't take that chance.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 13:11
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
to add: school staff is a different story than children, politically. I think give them a long window to get vaccinated and after that they are out. People who work around kids generally have to satisfy medical requirements; this won't be any different.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 13:10
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Anonymous wrote:Passing a law will not make teachers show up at work or students show up at school.
The 10% unvaxxed teachers are just not going to do it. Can they be replaced? -- maybe not. Accepting weekly testing seems like a good compromise.
Demanding vaccinations for age 12+ students in wards 7 and 8 is going nowhere. The vaccination rate for adults in those wards is something like 30%. Unvaxxed adults are not going to vaccinate their children. And teenage children are not known for cheerful compliance with adults' requests. Who is going to drag an unruly 16 year old to the doctor?
Are you willing to turn away 70% of middle and high schools students in wards 7 and 8? Bad optics to say the least. And it would just not be right.
Reality says you cannot successfully impose a vaccination requirement on DC public school students. Passing a law will not change that.
Find another solution.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but your "reality" is missing that in reality we have mandated other vaccinations, and the students in Wards 7 and 8 somehow managed to satisfy those. So either their parents take them to get the vaccinations or they otherwise get them (through other services).
Anonymous
08/27/2021 12:36
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Passing a law will not make teachers show up at work or students show up at school.
The 10% unvaxxed teachers are just not going to do it. Can they be replaced? -- maybe not. Accepting weekly testing seems like a good compromise.
Demanding vaccinations for age 12+ students in wards 7 and 8 is going nowhere. The vaccination rate for adults in those wards is something like 30%. Unvaxxed adults are not going to vaccinate their children. And teenage children are not known for cheerful compliance with adults' requests. Who is going to drag an unruly 16 year old to the doctor?
Are you willing to turn away 70% of middle and high schools students in wards 7 and 8? Bad optics to say the least. And it would just not be right.
Reality says you cannot successfully impose a vaccination requirement on DC public school students. Passing a law will not change that.
Find another solution.
The 10% unvaxxed teachers are just not going to do it. Can they be replaced? -- maybe not. Accepting weekly testing seems like a good compromise.
Demanding vaccinations for age 12+ students in wards 7 and 8 is going nowhere. The vaccination rate for adults in those wards is something like 30%. Unvaxxed adults are not going to vaccinate their children. And teenage children are not known for cheerful compliance with adults' requests. Who is going to drag an unruly 16 year old to the doctor?
Are you willing to turn away 70% of middle and high schools students in wards 7 and 8? Bad optics to say the least. And it would just not be right.
Reality says you cannot successfully impose a vaccination requirement on DC public school students. Passing a law will not change that.
Find another solution.
Anonymous
08/27/2021 07:18
Subject: Re:A majority of the DC Council asked the Mayor and Chancellor to require adult vaccination in schools
Off topic but anyone calling Wards 7 and 8 Bowser’s base has no idea what they are talking about.
And I think the big concern for daycare workers is that we already have a shortage. So requiring vaccines would likely cause an even greater shortage of workers.
I get it- I support this bill- but I also understand the opposition to it.
The other thing that never gets mentioned in stories about the poor being less likely to be vaxxed- many do not have paid time off, and there is no mandated leave for the vaccine (employers could opt into the federal Covid-related leave this spring/summer but many did not). If you are one of the unlucky ones who has significant side effects, and no paid leave, you might be hesitant to get it, too. Many of my friends took 2-3 days of leave after the shots due to side effects.
And I think the big concern for daycare workers is that we already have a shortage. So requiring vaccines would likely cause an even greater shortage of workers.
I get it- I support this bill- but I also understand the opposition to it.
The other thing that never gets mentioned in stories about the poor being less likely to be vaxxed- many do not have paid time off, and there is no mandated leave for the vaccine (employers could opt into the federal Covid-related leave this spring/summer but many did not). If you are one of the unlucky ones who has significant side effects, and no paid leave, you might be hesitant to get it, too. Many of my friends took 2-3 days of leave after the shots due to side effects.