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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Nah, OP and you need to get a perspective, she is doing this, not covid.

DP. But there’s no denying that COVID has changed our kids’ lives and not for the better. My kids couldn’t go to school in person most of last year. That wasn’t MY choice. My DD’s dance studio closed and she couldn’t do the one activity she loves. That wasn’t MY choice. Sure, there are things within our control but a lot of it isn’t. That’s what can make it hard in kids and their parents.

MCPS and similar have done this, but I did not see that much opposition to online schools in MoCo. The poor in MCPS were given no choice. My niece and nephew in Indiana went to school all year long last year! They were, at times, in a region with high covid rates. They never closed, nobody died in their school system. They have a budget that is nothing compared to MCPS. If kids were positive they had a system in place that kids around the kid and siblings isolated. So, while I am a Bernie Bro, you need to ask yourself why were our kids denied the educational experience that they deserved. If you think covid did that, you are wrong. If you think it was justified to close schools to in-person, learning ( which is sounds like you don't) you don't get to come here and say covid ruined my kids' education last year. No, you say school boards ruined my kids'educational lives.
As for dance, you are truly equating that with a disaster? Come on, there was no reason kids couldn't play outside all summer last year. Kids in my neighborhood in MoCo sure did.

This is a very literal take on the above and largely misses the point. Of course PEOPLE made the decision to close schools. (I’m not in Moco so can’t speak to whatever point you were trying to make about that). Also, the fact that kids - mine included - got to play outside doesn’t change the fact that normal activities were canceled which can have an impact on kids. (And I certainly wasn’t equating anything with a disaster). At bottom, Covid has changed our lives. You seem to be arguing to the contrary.

Different poster. You seem to be the one who doesn’t get it. Covid did not shut down the schools. Covid did not shut down kids’ activities. Human adults did. We have known since about 2-3 months into this thing that statistically kids are NOT at risk from Covid. We COULD have kept the schools open. We COULD have kept kids’ activities going. We SHOULD have prioritized making sure things were as normal as possible FOR THE KIDS, but we did not. Instead, we did what was most expedient for the ADULTS (such as prioritizing bars and restaurants over schools and sports). Covid didn’t make those choices, adults did.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Nah, OP and you need to get a perspective, she is doing this, not covid.

DP. But there’s no denying that COVID has changed our kids’ lives and not for the better. My kids couldn’t go to school in person most of last year. That wasn’t MY choice. My DD’s dance studio closed and she couldn’t do the one activity she loves. That wasn’t MY choice. Sure, there are things within our control but a lot of it isn’t. That’s what can make it hard in kids and their parents.

MCPS and similar have done this, but I did not see that much opposition to online schools in MoCo. The poor in MCPS were given no choice. My niece and nephew in Indiana went to school all year long last year! They were, at times, in a region with high covid rates. They never closed, nobody died in their school system. They have a budget that is nothing compared to MCPS. If kids were positive they had a system in place that kids around the kid and siblings isolated. So, while I am a Bernie Bro, you need to ask yourself why were our kids denied the educational experience that they deserved. If you think covid did that, you are wrong. If you think it was justified to close schools to in-person, learning ( which is sounds like you don't) you don't get to come here and say covid ruined my kids' education last year. No, you say school boards ruined my kids'educational lives.
As for dance, you are truly equating that with a disaster? Come on, there was no reason kids couldn't play outside all summer last year. Kids in my neighborhood in MoCo sure did.

This is a very literal take on the above and largely misses the point. Of course PEOPLE made the decision to close schools. (I’m not in Moco so can’t speak to whatever point you were trying to make about that). Also, the fact that kids - mine included - got to play outside doesn’t change the fact that normal activities were canceled which can have an impact on kids. (And I certainly wasn’t equating anything with a disaster). At bottom, Covid has changed our lives. You seem to be arguing to the contrary.

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Anonymous wrote:Typical narcissist DCUM post by OP. Your snowflakes will be just fine. Be glad you’re not trying to flee Afghanistan.

You can be thankful to not have to flee Afghanistan, or be living in Yemen, or a trailer in West Virginia, and at the same time be sad that Covid has made life for your kids less enjoyable than it would have been otherwise.

Made your kids less enjoyable? What are they? Netflix show for you to enjoy? Jesus Christ! You have kids to take care of, to educate, enjoy your kids, sure, on occasion? How privileged! Most parents barely see their kids due to working 2 jobs, they don't go around thinking how they are ENJOYING their kids less.

Last week I was at kindergarten orientation. There were a group of moms that talked only about COVID. How their kids have not been in daycare since March 2020 because it was too risky, how they became SAHMs, which masks are best, unmasked lunches, delta, and how they will be relieved once the child vaccine is approved. In reality we all know they will not be relieved by the child vaccine. It was sad and pathetic and I wanted to end the discussion as soon as I could.

This is OP. Thanks to those of you who understand I can have tremendous grief for the families living through much worse situations like in Afghanistan and in poverty down the street, and also be sad about what my children are going through. I work in human services and I have perspective. It still sucks for my kids and it has for the last 17 months, which is a significant portion of their lives.

Also, I think some people may have gotten me confused with some of the other posters - my kids did a lot of safe outdoor socializing with friends this spring and summer. They went to camp, but it closed and they brought home covid and then we all had to experience the stress of quarantine without the sick parent for 2 weeks and missing the camp fun they have waited so long for. We are trying to make the best of it by being creative, but when we as parents are so overtaxed from over a year of simultaneous work + child care due to virtual school, it's hard to come up with NEW creative ideas to make magic for them.

We are looking forward to them starting school in the fall and hope it will go well, but we're weary and nervous about more rolling quarantines, which are really stressful. I long for pre-covid life where there were so many more opportunities for fun and carefree experiences for kids (and adults!)

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Anonymous wrote:Stop putting your own kiddies on your kids. Kids are resilient. My kids have really had a great time during the last 1.5 years - they were able to play outside almost every day and meet up with friends. Less structured activities. They’ve been thriving

That's great your kids are having such a good time. We have heavily limited ours seeing friends as the friends families are not being careful. Kids are resilient but at some point, only so much some of us can take due to others selfish behavior.

No. Seriously, this is the CHOICE you are making for your kids. You don’t get to blame everyone else being selfish. YOU are the one isolating them.

Exactly. No one is forcing isolation on your kids except YOU! This is a completely personal choice. I think it is insane you have chosen to be so “careful” and then want to blame others who chose to take a little risk and live more normally, which is what you say you want!? It is the height of absurdity. Self-imposed suffering. Own it.

I just don’t feel like this to be honest. NP.

My kids played outside the whole time. This summer I have made sure they had as normal a life as possible. We’ve traveled the whole time. In the beginning by car and once adults were vaccinated we’ve ventured out a bit further. We all take precautions but the kids have adapted and they are happy.

I agree with others that our school systems really failed the kids last year. But that was a choice and it was wrong in my opinion. And I thought that from Day 1. Most other people in this world figured it out. We didn’t. Adults did what worked for them. The end.

I think some parents sincerely need to take a hard look at the choices they have made for their kids.

I am with you OP. My kids entire elementary school years (their elem school is k-3) will have been dominated by Covid, so they will get to the middle school without having any normal elem school experience (aside from my one son having a normal kindergarten). It is a loss for them for sure. When we set out to have babies, there was nothing about pandemics in the baby books haha. Some of us parents feel we snd our children are losing out, considering these years are fleeting. Others dont feel that way but doesnt make our feelings less valid. It sucks and those of us who have altered our lifestyles and who have young kids who need specific experiences to develop socially and academically, are the ones who continue to get the short end of this stick.

We have been spoiled by health and prosperity. But that’s what we are used to do yes it’s very hard to have this which we didn’t expect and are not used to. Our dreams die hard.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Nah, OP and you need to get a perspective, she is doing this, not covid.

DP. But there’s no denying that COVID has changed our kids’ lives and not for the better. My kids couldn’t go to school in person most of last year. That wasn’t MY choice. My DD’s dance studio closed and she couldn’t do the one activity she loves. That wasn’t MY choice. Sure, there are things within our control but a lot of it isn’t. That’s what can make it hard in kids and their parents.

MCPS and similar have done this, but I did not see that much opposition to online schools in MoCo. The poor in MCPS were given no choice. My niece and nephew in Indiana went to school all year long last year! They were, at times, in a region with high covid rates. They never closed, nobody died in their school system. They have a budget that is nothing compared to MCPS. If kids were positive they had a system in place that kids around the kid and siblings isolated. So, while I am a Bernie Bro, you need to ask yourself why were our kids denied the educational experience that they deserved. If you think covid did that, you are wrong. If you think it was justified to close schools to in-person, learning ( which is sounds like you don't) you don't get to come here and say covid ruined my kids' education last year. No, you say school boards ruined my kids'educational lives.
As for dance, you are truly equating that with a disaster? Come on, there was no reason kids couldn't play outside all summer last year. Kids in my neighborhood in MoCo sure did.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Nah, OP and you need to get a perspective, she is doing this, not covid.

DP. But there’s no denying that COVID has changed our kids’ lives and not for the better. My kids couldn’t go to school in person most of last year. That wasn’t MY choice. My DD’s dance studio closed and she couldn’t do the one activity she loves. That wasn’t MY choice. Sure, there are things within our control but a lot of it isn’t. That’s what can make it hard in kids and their parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Nah, OP and you need to get a perspective, she is doing this, not covid.

And just to add, I am not the other pp saying the same thing above. To give you some perspective. But, you won't take it that many people say you are doing this, you will call others insane, as opposed to looking at your own actions with a critical lens.

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Nah, OP and you need to get a perspective, she is doing this, not covid.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop putting your own kiddies on your kids. Kids are resilient. My kids have really had a great time during the last 1.5 years - they were able to play outside almost every day and meet up with friends. Less structured activities. They’ve been thriving

That's great your kids are having such a good time. We have heavily limited ours seeing friends as the friends families are not being careful. Kids are resilient but at some point, only so much some of us can take due to others selfish behavior.

No. Seriously, this is the CHOICE you are making for your kids. You don’t get to blame everyone else being selfish. YOU are the one isolating them.

Those of you who had to flee war, we get it, your life sucked worse. That doesn’t mean OP doesn’t get to think her life and her kids life sucks right now, because it does. Your struggle doesn’t mitigate someone else’s struggle. OP I feel you, ive still taken my kid to do a lot of outside stuff like hikes and bike rides, but it does suck that they have had such an abnormal year and a half that is still going.

Anonymous wrote:Just to note that there are many countries where kids have gone to school and are going to school just like normal with much less disruption. Kids here too never stopped going to school. Closing schools was a choice, not an act of god.

This. Anxious adults and CYA policies are doing this to kids, not Covid